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  1. #111

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    but you are deconstructing everything..

    and precisely I can also say when there is God all is possible..
    i am not deconstructing anything. i am not a deconstuctionist.

    and yes, when there is God all is possible even his non-existence.

  2. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    all this meaning talk..

    one thing's for sure.. a lot of people are unaware that they are alive.. and most of all, a subset of that is unaware they are humans too. its kinda sad..
    I think what filled people are meanings...without it they're exactly empty. People who take on life as essentially meaningless take it by brute force in the mind- kinda like faith in the same manner...this was prophesied by Nietszche actually.

    I don't know if it is possible to live without any sort of meaning in one's life...why do this and do that for a lifetime only after that you wither and die..what's the difference living life nowadays knowing its pointless to live, if one looks around at society and whole world at large.

    What remain there is in life worth living up to a point if its pointless in the first place?

  3. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    No I didn't said anything about not being normal if one does not believe in a divine...why? don't you think wa ko'y doubts? Man, i've been fighting ever since scratching some sense here and there for all of this..

    But believers are not usually the first to cast something like delusional, hallucination, oxy*****, shortminded and the bunch to non-believers. A quick survey here of previous posts here will surely imply that believers are not sanely normal..hehehehe...I'm not being specific about you Chad, just an observation lang nako..

    Yes, we are free to choose..
    you didn’t say anything about not being normal but that was the point you were implying. it’s good that you weren’t pointing it out to me specifically, coz if it was the case, i’d be overjoyed.

    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    The link is provided by researchers who are ATHEIST themselves .

    There is proof of God's existence . Let alone 2 doctors of the church who can manifest this . St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine . It doesnt have to be the God the Catholics observe . It is somthing of a SUPREME BEING and to conclude it , one poster also said about , WHO put that part of the brain to function like that .

    Lastly , I believe in a God because of the need to it . I was born and raised as a Catholic . Was adventurous enough to venture into other sects and cults and religion . I stayed with being a catholic because I may not agree with the doctrines and the teachings since they are man made , I firmly and totally agree with the loving and all powerful God we have .
    you keep mentioning St. Thomas Aquinas but his arguments and logic DO NOT really represent lest explain ANYTHING about God. what he managed to do though, effectively, was to present the argument that GOD is eternal and omnipotent. ugh, sorry, that doesn’t really say much. and really, you think the article is biased because the author is atheist? St. Thomas Aquinas, explain to me WHERE, HOW, AND WHAT God specifically is and i’d be convinced. don't give me broad arguments. any THEOLOGIANS are good at that---and they claim to know the answers that science can't provide. for the LULZ.

    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    if you based you observation from what the believers do, and if you have used the greatest power of your brain to analyze God, it still cannot conclude if God exists or not.

    Knowing God is very different from believing God. You have closed your mind already that God exists that is why you don't dig deeper. Your analysis of God is limited only on your human consciousness.

    it's like... is there air?... no, there is no air... try to breath?... no, there is no air, I will not breath... see no air

    The comprehension of the human consciousness is limited to physical world. It's the soul that long to know and to unite with God. A man who does not know God is a man with a body without a soul.
    i’m not denying that… of course i don’t know whether GOD exists or not. if I knew then we wouldn’t be having this discussion. if we follow your argument, since there is no way to disprove a supernatural entity, does it mean that the entity exist? if you’d say yes, then would that mean a flying spaghetti monster also probably exist? Since there’s no way to disprove it any way. see the “Russell’s teapot” argument.

  4. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    i am not deconstructing anything. i am not a deconstuctionist.

    and yes, when there is God all is possible even his non-existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    if you agree with my statement, then why bother for an implication? whether it is my emptiness or not, ( i dare not pierce through the abyss of my own soul) it does not change the point of meaninglessness. to attempt to use the unconscious in one's advantage leads one to fall into his own dark pit he himself dug.


    wouldn't you call that deconstructionism..

    but i see your point..

    and following thru ur line of statement, even God's non-existence is existence in itself.

  5. #115
    its hardwired in our dna.. i think.. hehe..

  6. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Definitely your answer is all in your mind. Don't force us to think you are correct, you havent presented anything appealing. While we believers can give you statistics, faith an example of a grateful life. hahay!
    hehehe... i'm not forcing anyone to believe what i believe (or not believe, i should say). i'm just here to have an open discussion about this matter. i know it's hard to accept (it really IS hard to accept for the believers) the possibility that GOD is all in the mind---but please, keep an open mind. you guys are so stuffed inside your boxes that you fear to venture out and question things. i'm not saying it's wrong; BUT IT CAN BE DANGEROUS.

  7. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    I think what filled people are meanings...without it they're exactly empty. People who take on life as essentially meaningless take it by brute force in the mind- kinda like faith in the same manner...this was prophesied by Nietszche actually.

    I don't know if it is possible to live without any sort of meaning in one's life...why do this and do that for a lifetime only after that you wither and die..what's the difference living life nowadays knowing its pointless to live, if one looks around at society and whole world at large.

    What remain there is in life worth living up to a point if its pointless in the first place?
    all this meaning talk is already very confusing..

    The_Child: i'm getting your deconstruction out of my head na oi..
    regards..

  8. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    hehehe... i'm not forcing anyone to believe what i believe (or not believe, i should say). i'm just here to have an open discussion about this matter. i know it's hard to accept (it really IS hard to accept for the believers) the possibility that GOD is all in the mind---but please, keep an open mind. you guys are so stuffed inside your boxes that you fear to venture out and question things. i'm not saying it's wrong; BUT IT CAN BE DANGEROUS.
    you're referring to the idolized god here, right?

  9. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
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    wouldn't you call that deconstructionism..

    but i see your point..

    and following thru ur line of statement, even God's non-existence is existence in itself.
    yes, is an existence in itself, but it also in itself non-existence - a matryoshka doll.

    no, i wouldnt call that desconstruction. do you? if you do, then be it. whatever makes you happy "...it cant be that bad..."

  10. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    I think what filled people are meanings...without it they're exactly empty. People who take on life as essentially meaningless take it by brute force in the mind- kinda like faith in the same manner...this was prophesied by Nietszche actually.

    I don't know if it is possible to live without any sort of meaning in one's life...why do this and do that for a lifetime only after that you wither and die..what's the difference living life nowadays knowing its pointless to live, if one looks around at society and whole world at large.

    What remain there is in life worth living up to a point if its pointless in the first place?
    exactly why when you define a person as a potential "meaning" then you become a part of the very determinations that curbs 'meaning' in the first place. that is why Nietzsche, although a nihilist, was not really that thorough.

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