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    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    is it safe to say that believing in GOD is all in the mind?

    i don't think so, chad. based on experience, god seems to be present when you go beyond the mind. which is why, imo, rationalizing god is an exercise in futility.
    based on experience...

    that would entail the existence of GOD as your own personal conviction. perhaps you find your position about GOD reasonable and i won't argue that. what i would like to know is how one could regard the idea as futile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    You state here that, you "rest your case" in an attempt to make the readers believe that you have "won" the argument. But the true "reward" you expect deep inside, is for me to totally accept what you believe in and make that publicly viewable in this thread (i.e. an explicit statement from me, in the form of "Hey guys! OMG, bluedes is TOTALLY RIGHT! And I'm TOTALLY WRONG! OMG please forgive me!", and you will never cease posting in iStorya because you enjoy that feeling and it makes you happy and content. And thus, observing these facts, you can never really truly "rest your case".

    This is all what this is all about.

    -RODION
    seriously dude.. don't be such an emo..

    honestly, i have no wish to belittle you at all.. the fact is.. i sort of feel sorry for you..
    all of life is struggling to survive.. even extremophilic single-celled bacteria find ways to evolve to survive in such dire environments.. that is life at its best..

    and you find it meaningless? like i said.. its ur call..

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    based on experience...

    that would entail the existence of GOD as your own personal conviction. perhaps you find your position about GOD reasonable and i won't argue that. what i would like to know is how one could regard the idea as futile?
    based on experience... why of course, chad. i would not state it as my truth if it was not based on my experience. raised and schooled as a catholic, i got sick and tired of hearing and reading about god and not experiencing god. time came when one have to leave the dogmas, theories and blind faith behind and grow. as to futility, one can not rationalize him/her, one can only experience him/her. and since each experience is unique, forcing my truth on others was never my cup of tea. to each her own

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    Fear is another major factor. All creatures, especially sentient beings, are wired to fear the unknown, because avoiding the unknown increases the chances for self preservation. Thus the creation of the concept of a divine entity helps to fill that big black gaping hole of unknown and make humans feel at ease with the world better than a situation where there is no "plug" to that hole.

    -RODION

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Fear is another major factor. All creatures, especially sentient beings, are wired to fear the unknown, because avoiding the unknown increases the chances for self preservation. Thus the creation of the concept of a divine entity helps to fill that big black gaping hole of unknown and make humans feel at ease with the world better than a situation where there is no "plug" to that hole.

    -RODION
    True, but is it not magnificent that man with that same hard-wired fear response, can challenge those fears, subdue, and control them. Like a fireman who calmly enters a building ablaze in an inferno, which others are fleeing in terror. A soldier who will trow his own body on a grenade to save comrades attempting to jumping away. A person who will struggle to release a person from a wrecked vehicle, knowing the flame may erupt the fuel into an exploding fireball. People in mass are ignorance personified, but a single man can be magnificent creation. It does not prove the existence of a God, but can only prove we are created different then mere creatures.

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    Humans believe in GOD for they are gods too! Remember? what else is your explanation?

  7. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Fear is another major factor. All creatures, especially sentient beings, are wired to fear the unknown, because avoiding the unknown increases the chances for self preservation. Thus the creation of the concept of a divine entity helps to fill that big black gaping hole of unknown and make humans feel at ease with the world better than a situation where there is no "plug" to that hole.

    -RODION
    this is even funnier..

    cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    this is even funnier..

    cheers!
    Can you please honestly tell me that you're not ridiculing my remark? If not, why the clown icons? Why resort to this when you can choose not to comment?

    Please clarify this, or I shall be forced to consider this as a violation of iStorya.net rules:

    2. Posts should be composed in such a manner that respects persons of all races, religions, cultures, and sexualities. No post may contain personal attacks, as they have no proper place in discussions. The purpose of this forum is to facilitate growth, not to belittle others. This also applies to Private Messages and the Shoutbox entries.

    If proven to be a personal attack, I have no choice but to give you an infraction.

    Wala na gani ko nanghilabot nimo (my previous post is clearly evident of that) unya mogara pa ka. Unsay sala nako nimo dong?

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 10-20-2009 at 11:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Can you please honestly tell me that you're not ridiculing my remark? If not, why the clown icons? Why resort to this when you can choose not to comment?

    Please clarify this, or I shall be forced to consider this as a violation of iStorya.net rules:

    2. Posts should be composed in such a manner that respects persons of all races, religions, cultures, and sexualities. No post may contain personal attacks, as they have no proper place in discussions. The purpose of this forum is to facilitate growth, not to belittle others. This also applies to Private Messages and the Shoutbox entries.

    If proven to be a personal attack, I have no choice but to give you an infraction.

    Wala na gani ko nanghilabot nimo (my previous post is clearly evident of that) unya mogara pa ka. Unsay sala nako nimo dong?

    -RODION
    like i said, i have no intention to belittle you..

    its ur posts that are funny.. its ironic..

    1.) life is meaningless, yet we are alive
    2.) not only is life meaningless, but people are hard-wired to be afraid too..

    how preposterous can that line of reasoning go?

    whether you find that offensive or belittling, its your call, not mine..
    dont take it personally.. i'm just posting my comments..
    if you wish to respond to my post, by all means, do so within the *bounds* of this forum..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    like i said, i have no intention to belittle you..

    its ur posts that are funny.. its ironic..

    1.) life is meaningless, yet we are alive
    2.) not only is life meaningless, but people are hard-wired to be afraid too..

    how preposterous can that line of reasoning go?

    whether you find that offensive or belittling, its your call, not mine..
    dont take it personally.. i'm just posting my comments..
    if you wish to respond to my post, by all means, do so within the *bounds* of this forum..
    The condition of being alive doesn't have to have meaning. So there is no irony to that, nor is it preposterous.

    Yes, fear is ingrained. Biology teaches this, so why is it preposterous?

    -RODION

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