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  1. #141

    Quote Originally Posted by lorenzoleo View Post
    Tell me who is wealthy?

    A.) A person who earns 1M annual income and spends 200k/month
    B.) A person who earns 200k annual income and spends 5k/month

    A or B?
    What are you trying to prove here? isn't it obvious? my 5 year old niece can answer this... i will not glorify this question. it insults my intelligence.

    I work in a call center and I AM GOOD IN MATH!

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by lorenzoleo View Post
    Tell me who is wealthy?

    A.) A person who earns 1M annual income and spends 200k/month
    B.) A person who earns 200k annual income and spends 5k/month

    A or B?
    B! the B guy a lot wealthier...

    NEGOSYANTE CGURO si B! hehehe.. 200k/5k.. mas dako iya income to expense ratio

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by silverado View Post
    IF YOU STILL DON'T KNOW, businessman are not movitated because of the thought that they provide jobs... that is contrary to capitalism boy! businessman are profit driven people.

    Big and successful businessman complain too... incase you don't know, or you're not in that level yet. I'll cite an example: i work in a call center as a Jr. Management (Team Lead), if our numbers are so f*ck up, we get get criticized by our Operations Manager, our Manager in turn gets the same by our Program Director, that goes on up to the OWNER.
    How did i know this?... they told us on our quarterly business report. hmmm
    theres a big difference between business and charity... kinsa ba ganahan employee motrabaho without reward or compensation.. its just like kinsa businessman motivated paduyun sa negosyo nga losing.. all businessmen know that if wala profit.. patay ang negosyo.. and all employee must know that kung patay ang negesyo, mwala ila trabaho..

    we businessmen really complain to.. especially when our employees f*ck-up.. we dont pay employees to f*ck-up, we pay them to generate income by doing their part in the production of goods and services.. most employees dont care about the health of the business simply because all they care is the bi monthly or weekly paycheck they will recieve.. the employee gets paid whether the biz gains profit or not..

    businessmen should really fire employees who are ineffective or those who frequent f*ck ups, they're a complete waste of money..

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    the last guy who f*cked up under my payroll was a licensed lawyer.. i still wonder where he learned such incompetent mathematics and economics.. my non-licensed engineer provided a more cost effective solution but AFTER the damage was done... so i terminated the services of that lawyer.. i need somebody effecient... (its hard to find good talents this days)

  4. #144
    Amorsolox again you are correct, no employer will keep a "substandard employee" that is why most business have quarterly or mid-year or yearly performance appraisal, to gauge employees areas for improvement and help them grow and if not then termination.

    But i found it repugnant that LORENZOLEO post a comment like this:

    "You know what in reality these successful business person are making a self less act in order to build a big business so that it could give livelihood to most people"

    SELFLESS does he know the meaning of selfless?.... don't make it look like your into business to provide jobs.

    @LORENZOLEO your primary reason why you venture into business is PROFIT, creating job is only an unescapable circumstance of it. therefore, YOU ARE NOT DOING A SELFLESS ACT.

    @AMORSOLOX your comment on my post (above) are of the same thought as mine, so i won't debunk that. -----> and what i found interesting is that; My post is actually a reaction to the post of LORENZOLEO and i quote:
    "These successful business people doesn't complain even if how big is the cost to pay. But compare it to ordinary employee, gamay lang gani ipa trabaho dayon cge bagulbol. Get my point?"

    ---@amorsolox, thanks for confirming that businessmen do complain too.

    LORENZOLEO what can you say about the confirmation of AMORSOLOX?

  5. #145
    i think na over exag. ni lorenzoleo iya delivery.. hehehe.. though noble ang going into business and maka tabang ka by providing jobs.. but i understand his point.

    i dont think selfless is the right word... except kung charity imu operation..

    the selfless acts ako nahibalan sa isa ka negosyante is willing cya mo sakripisyo para sa iya negosyo para molambo.. ive seen lots of businessoweners nag reduce sa ila lifestyle para lang di ma close ila business and para ma sweldoan ila trabahante.. this usually occurs pag lisud jud kaau ang panahon..
    trust me.. ive been there.. naa jud times nga mas dako pa ang sweldo sa imu trabahante kay sa imo profit...

    i think mao ni pasabot ni lorenzoleo.. i think compromise ang sakto nga term..

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by silverado View Post
    "These successful business people doesn't complain even if how big is the cost to pay. But compare it to ordinary employee, gamay lang gani ipa trabaho dayon cge bagulbol. Get my point?"
    ang kanang employees mo bagulbol ra man na pag hatagan nimu new instructions.. its just because mausab man ila routine.. humans are creatures of habit.. and stressful sa tao pag usab2xon ang habit.. para sa employees, ila routines kay ila nman habit.. this is proven by science..

    i agree na successful business people dont complain even if dako ang cost.. naa man gani uban nga mo sweldo tag million2x.. they know how to appreciate good talent (but be careful, dili tanan employers ani og mind).. maski pa machines nga dagko cost, but if found nga mka generate income, more than happy ang businessman maski pa mogasto jud cya..

    another thing bout businessmen:

    kanang mga negosyante nga moundang sa negosyo, init kaau na ulo.. hehe.. simply because wala sila naanad nga dili magnegosyo.. this is similar to my first statement. hehe this is also another reason why most businessmen start another biz pag successful na ila first biz..

  7. #147
    @Amorsolox, does it mean that LORENZOLEO is wrong when he post this statement?

    "These successful business people doesn't complain even if how big is the cost to pay. But compare it to ordinary employee, gamay lang gani ipa trabaho dayon cge bagulbol. Get my point?"

    if LORENZOLEO is correct about this statement, then both of us AMORSOLOX is wrong and we must admit it.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    ang kanang employees mo bagulbol ra man na pag hatagan nimu new instructions.. its just because mausab man ila routine.. humans are creatures of habit.. and stressful sa tao pag usab2xon ang habit.. para sa employees, ila routines kay ila nman habit.. this is proven by science...
    .

    I AGREE, that is why if there is drastic change it should ba cascaded and understood well by employees before being implemented.
    but kanang small changes, pagpasabot ra ang solution ana. like; if imo sugo-on imo secretary pag canvass and purchase ug materials which is outside his job discription, mo reklamo gyud na. but if imo pasabton ngano imo siya gitagaan ana nga responsibility.. for sure he will take it with open arms.


    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    i agree na successful business people dont complain even if dako ang cost.. naa man gani uban nga mo sweldo tag million2x.. they know how to appreciate good talent (but be careful, dili tanan employers ani og mind).. maski pa machines nga dagko cost, but if found nga mka generate income, more than happy ang businessman maski pa mogasto jud cya....
    I think this is a contradiction to your previous post... allow me to quote you

    "we businessmen really complain to.. especially when our employees f*ck-up.. we dont pay employees to f*ck-up, we pay them to generate income by doing their part in the production of goods and services.. most employees dont care about the health of the business simply because all they care is the bi monthly or weekly paycheck they will recieve.. the employee gets paid whether the biz gains profit or not.."

    Amorsolox, Asa man gyud ka? complain or dili mo complain??

    Lorenzoleo didn't qualify his statement, it is very general.

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by silverado View Post
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    I think this is a contradiction to your previous post... allow me to quote you

    "we businessmen really complain to.. especially when our employees f*ck-up.. we dont pay employees to f*ck-up, we pay them to generate income by doing their part in the production of goods and services.. most employees dont care about the health of the business simply because all they care is the bi monthly or weekly paycheck they will recieve.. the employee gets paid whether the biz gains profit or not.."

    Amorsolox, Asa man gyud ka? complain or dili mo complain??

    Lorenzoleo didn't qualify his statement, it is very general.
    f*ck up means wastage.. unnecessary costs.. ok ra man dako gasto as long as dili ma sayang.. it doesnt matter if mahal sweldo as long as he/she does his/her work effeciently..

    likewise useless ghapon maski gamay ra ang sweldo pero wa au iya performance..

    i dont complain bout paying employees as long as their doing their job satisfactorily..

    but i do complain a lot regarding wastage and unproductivity.. and lack of initiative

  10. #150
    @silverado Did you ever exprience operating your own business?

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