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  1. #61

    Quote Originally Posted by cdburgh View Post
    Luoy kaayo ang military sa sale sa Fort Bonifacio kay it was unta for their modernization program, what i heard is that most the proceeds from the sale of the Fort Bonifacio went to the national government and gamay ra ang niadto sa military. nag-antus na lang gihapon sila gubaon na equipment kay gigamit ang kwarta sa laing project.
    luoy mo lang, ang gibaligya na yuta kay supposed to be gi-grant na sa ilaha as housing project...

    naa sad namatay ato na leader sa mga tag-iya sa lot kay dili unta musugot na ibaligya ila lots... well ingon ana gyud ang gobyerno...

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Minuano27 View Post
    As I said in the other thread, Capitol just wants to make money (even if it has P1Billion sitting in BDO), without any clear plan on how it's going to spent for the public good.

    Makes you wonder what's going to be the next money-making venture. Entrance fees to the Capitol bldg. perhaps?
    i think they are already doing it for the parking lot.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    i think they are already doing it for the parking lot.
    Dugay na ang parking lot fees; there's even a pending case about its legality.
    I was referring to going inside the capitol building itself....

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by worldwide View Post
    solution to what problem? what is so urgent about it?
    as what I can opine:
    problem 1: the Cebu Province has to take back what it originally owned.
    problem 2: better strategic military location for the camp.
    problem 3: if status stays as it is, it won't be beneficial to the Provincial constituents in the long run.
    problem 4: the marching order from PGMA mismo. no compliance could mean administrative sanctions for Capitol.

    Quote Originally Posted by worldwide View Post
    a matter of kilometers difference, that can't be considered strategic. investments? the province can invest in towns where it is most needed. the towns need infrastructure, disperse the malls. the city is already saturated. if they develop places outside the city, it can generate jobs there, lessen traffic.
    what's going to happen to the buildings inside the camp? the transfer of the military to another site will cost billions just to replace the structures they are leaving behind. that money could be spent somewhere else.
    unsa man na si GMA hatag-kuha man? mo-award sya ug lots sa mga Apas resident and then kuhaon ra man diay niya. walay klaro.
    a matter of kilometers difference but matters a lot for a military strategic location. how? well, Gen. Esperon is the best person who can answer that. I'm no military strategist but i read Sun Ztu's art of war...

    and what i mean investments are not investments from the province for the lots but from private business entities who want to invest in the lots after the transfer. just like what happened in Cebu Business Park, Waterfront hotel, and Asiatown IT Park.

    as for the illegal buildings inside the camp, i read somewhere that naa nay budget ana gigahin para sa displaced settlers. I even think that part of the funds already went to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by worldwide View Post
    wala na lang gyud unta na hilabti ang camp lapulapu. daghan man ta laing properties sa province na puede nila magamit. it all boils down to business
    remember, it was not during the time of Pablo nor Gwen that the recovery of the Apas lots by the Province was planned in the first place. It was during the time of former Gov. Tingting Martinez. I even want to believe Lito O thought of it also during his time...karon lng ni materialize...so there you go.

    of course it is business. it should be the Cebu Province's business in taking what they originally owned.
    Last edited by giddyboy; 10-15-2009 at 11:04 AM.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy View Post
    as what I can opine:
    problem 1: the Cebu Province has to take back what it originally owned.
    problem 2: better strategic military location for the camp.
    problem 3: if status stays as it is, it won't be beneficial to the Provincial constituents in the long run.
    problem 4: the marching order from PGMA mismo. no compliance could mean administrative sanctions for Capitol.
    there are other lots that could be used by the province to develop. it makes more sense to disperse development in the countryside. fewer worker converging in the city, lessen traffic and progress in the towns. the city is already saturated.

    PGMA awarded some lots to Apas resident but why is she taking it back? Inconsistencies, way klaro.


    a matter of kilometers difference but matters a lot for a military strategic location. how? well, Gen. Esperon is the best person who can answer that. I'm no military strategist but i read Sun Ztu's art of war...

    as for the illegal buildings inside the camp, i read somewhere that naa nay budget ana gigahin para sa displaced settlers. I even think that part of the funds already went to them.
    what i am talking about is the money to build new building for the military. they are leaving behind a lot of structures and for sure it has to be replaced. it going to run in millions if not billions of pesos. where are they going to source it? the money that would be spent for the building can used to buy aircraft and naval vessels.

    remember, it was not during the time of Pablo nor Gwen that the recovery of the Apas lots by the Province was planned in the first place. It was during the time of former Gov. Tingting Martinez. I even want to believe Lito O thought of it also during his time...karon lng ni materialize...so there you go.

    of course it is business. it should be the Cebu Province's business in taking what they originally owned.
    these guys have to think of the environmental impact of converting the camp into a business center.
    in the end, it's all business. it's the businesses that will destroy the environment.

  6. #66
    wuuuu! luoya amo ani oi. daghan na bya nanigulang diri puyo sa apas. more than 20 yrs. YET karon lang na-interesan ky naa naman i.t park.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by artischic View Post
    wuuuu! luoya amo ani oi. daghan na bya nanigulang diri puyo sa apas. more than 20 yrs. YET karon lang na-interesan ky naa naman i.t park.
    tinuod ni... actually some kay 30 years na gyud dinha... naa ma tingali prescription period na 30 years.. besides gi-award namn sa inyo diba?

  8. #68
    i think ang gi-award katong lots na gipuy-an na. but the rest of the military camp is the one being reverted to the province.

  9. #69
    tsk.. tsk.. tsk..

    multiplier effect na pud ang commission aning transaction-a, haya-haya!

    ingon siguro ni tita, kamo na la'y pag ako, hehehe!!!

  10. #70
    Naa-gaingon nako nga taga-Apas naa sila gi-pirmahan sa una nga anytime papa-hawaon, bakwit dayon sila. Hopeless na ni! Bye sa mga taga-apas.

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