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  1. #71

    I got ur point bro! So, ako mga yaya and secretary puhun mga Latinas nah! wohooo!

  2. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by cirext View Post
    What can you get from a call center?
    1. Good Salary?
    Is an 18,000/ month salary big enough?
    A current economic survey was done and concluded that a Filipino needs to earn at least 24,000/month to suffice with the current prices & needs. People reaching this salary mark are considered marginally poor.

    2. It's "In"?

    3. Lots of Friends?

    4. Lots Of Perks & Fun?


    Isn't it a routinary job that numbs out all your other senses?
    Isn't it a "garbage" job thats not fitted for people like you?
    Fooled by the wrong perception of a good job?

    Never tell me it's the only job there is....
    Never tell me you don't have any common sense.
    Never bound yourself on what you only saw.
    You are not a robot. Aren't you?

    After all your works..what can you boast about yourself?.....the "twang"?
    Its a fake perception of success & high achievement.
    There's no achievement in it.

    THE BUSINESSMAN
    They have the brains working...
    They have the courage exercised all the time...
    They have the real pride of achievements.
    And most of all they have what is called "LIFE"
    i just couldn't believe this...

    first , why single out call center agents?

    why hit on call center agents who are doing an honest job?

    why call them robots?

    why call it a garbage job?

    garbage jobs are those that mock morality, ethics, and dignity. Every person having an honest job, deserves respect and courtesy. . .


    again, i just couldn't believe this...

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by pogy_uy View Post
    I got ur point bro! So, ako mga yaya and secretary puhun mga Latinas nah! wohooo!
    Yeah! That is my vision. Ako mga Board Of Directors kay exclusive for Pinoy blood only. Employees will be all foreigners.

  4. #74
    being a businessman is a patriotic act.. when you employ somebody, you not only provide for yourself, but for your employees as well...

    i can say that those seeking job security are selfish simply because they only work for their selves and immediate family..

    naa ko pangutana sa mga empolyado og mentality (some call center agents included na).. pila ka tao inu na tabangan?
    basta ako as a businessman, i provide honest jobs for 12 employees, and i also provided an honest source of income for many irregulars.. this is my way of helping them.. and by doing so, God rewards me with profit...

    employment per se is not bad.. but if you depend too much on it.. that would be very unwise considering the volatility of the world economy.. employment should be more than just for sustenance.. it should foster personal growth..


    to businessmen.. theres a difference between owning a business, running a business, working ON a business and working IN the business..

    if your idea of business is somthing that requires your constant presence, you dont own a business, you own a job AKA self-employed...

    a real business is something that will run even if you dont directly manage it.. (im not talking about UNO).. i have 3 businesses of my own.. each have their own management.. although taas2x ang overhead.. i usually earn 3x-5x more than a regular call center agent .. ako capital? i started with virtualy NOTHING.. how? what you lack in Capital you should make up 10x in GUTS and IMAGINATION, and really really thick face..

    ill be staring another business soon.. maybe next year..

  5. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    being a businessman is a patriotic act.. when you employ somebody, you not only provide for yourself, but for your employees as well...

    i can say that those seeking job security are selfish simply because they only work for their selves and immediate family..

    naa ko pangutana sa mga empolyado og mentality (some call center agents included na).. pila ka tao inu na tabangan?
    basta ako as a businessman, i provide honest jobs for 12 employees, and i also provided an honest source of income for many irregulars.. this is my way of helping them.. and by doing so, God rewards me with profit...

    employment per se is not bad.. but if you depend too much on it.. that would be very unwise considering the volatility of the world economy.. employment should be more than just for sustenance.. it should foster personal growth....:
    sir its a symbiotic relationship, labor and capital. capital will not work if there is no labor and vice versa.
    hunsa kaha mahitabo sa imo negosyo no kung ang imo 12 ka empleyado mo resign kay nagnegosyo na sila?

    ok you provided honest source of income sa imo mga empleyado... pero ako pangutana, kung ato itandi ilang sweldo sa call center agent kamalabaw ba sila?

    sir murag liki ra kaayo imo meaning sa PATRIOTIC kay nakahatag ka ug trabaho sa 12 ka buok nimo nga impleyado... kung ato subayon imong argumento..

    asa man mas PATRIOTIC, ikaw o ang mga americano nga tag-iya ug call center?

    ang mga americano nga tag-iya ug call center, they not only employ 12 but hundreds if not thousands, providing them a salary far bigger than what you pay your employees.

    siguro mas PATRIOTIC sila kung ato subayon imo argumento.


    bisan asa kang kalibutana mo adto, naa gyud empleyado ug naa sa capital.

    sama sa gi-ingon sa usa ka comment diri, AYAW PANGUNAHI ANG MGA CALL CENTER EMPLOYEES KAY SILA NAAY SAY HUNAHUNA. GUSTO SAD SILA MO ASINSO, THEY ALSO WANT TO CONTROL THEIR LIFE AND TIME.

  6. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post


    to businessmen.. theres a difference between owning a business, running a business, working ON a business and working IN the business..

    if your idea of business is somthing that requires your constant presence, you dont own a business, you own a job AKA self-employed...

    a real business is something that will run even if you dont directly manage it.. (im not talking about UNO).. i have 3 businesses of my own.. each have their own management.. although taas2x ang overhead.. i usually earn 3x-5x more than a regular call center agent .. ako capital? i started with virtualy NOTHING.. how? what you lack in Capital you should make up 10x in GUTS and IMAGINATION, and really really thick face..

    ill be staring another business soon.. maybe next year..
    Bro, If you could share to us ur existing businesses and how you started out with nothing...that would be a really nice blog to read and at the same time be an inspiration to us all. i.post kaha sa separate thread bro.

    I really believe in having a thick face in order to be successful but starting with virtually nothing? That's another interesting story to hear....


    Let's forget about the hate going on in this thread... and just be inspired for once at ur success story.

  7. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by silverado View Post
    sir its a symbiotic relationship, labor and capital. capital will not work if there is no labor and vice versa.
    hunsa kaha mahitabo sa imo negosyo no kung ang imo 12 ka empleyado mo resign kay nagnegosyo na sila?

    ok you provided honest source of income sa imo mga empleyado... pero ako pangutana, kung ato itandi ilang sweldo sa call center agent kamalabaw ba sila?

    sir murag liki ra kaayo imo meaning sa PATRIOTIC kay nakahatag ka ug trabaho sa 12 ka buok nimo nga impleyado... kung ato subayon imong argumento..

    asa man mas PATRIOTIC, ikaw o ang mga americano nga tag-iya ug call center?

    ang mga americano nga tag-iya ug call center, they not only employ 12 but hundreds if not thousands, providing them a salary far bigger than what you pay your employees.

    siguro mas PATRIOTIC sila kung ato subayon imo argumento.


    bisan asa kang kalibutana mo adto, naa gyud empleyado ug naa sa capital.

    sama sa gi-ingon sa usa ka comment diri, AYAW PANGUNAHI ANG MGA CALL CENTER EMPLOYEES KAY SILA NAAY SAY HUNAHUNA. GUSTO SAD SILA MO ASINSO, THEY ALSO WANT TO CONTROL THEIR LIFE AND TIME.
    mas maau gani nga ako mga trabahante mkabalo mag business.. it would help me alot if naa ko people to do business with.. i train them to be independent.. i dont worry if manghawa sila.. naa man pud sila gi train na mo puli.. i even helped one former employee start his own convenience store.. and in return, mo sell siya sa ako product.. win-win mi..

    considering sa ila sweldo, dili maka compete sa call centers.. di man pud sila interested sa call centers.. and also, considering sa ilaha demographics. sa ilang salary mas dako percantage ila ma save kay gamay ra man ang cost of living didtu nga place.. useless man ang dako ang sweldo pero dako pud lage cost of living.. think about the value of money.. it varies place to place even within the country.. your 100 pesos in cebu cannot buy the same items for 100 pesos in manila

    i also have licensed professionals under my payroll.. an accountant and a lawyer... partners pud nako mga engineers.. although ulaw sometimes kay ako dili licensed pero nagsweldo ko sa naa lisensya.. (hahaay.. ganahan jud ko mo take board sa CPA.. tiwasonon pa nako ako 5th year sa accounting)..

    patriotic ko kay tanan ako na earn padulong man sa philippines.. walay foreigner nka earn through the efforts of my employees.. kung padakoay lang pildi jud ko.. kung percentage sa income nga ni circulate balik sa ato country nga money, mas dako akoa.. im doing my part

    i have nothing against call center agents or employees.. but im against laziness of imagination nato mga filipinoes.. dili pasabot kay professional ka ma successful jud ka..

    hardcore businessmen seldom fail simply because they learn to have foresight and know when to cut loses.. a business may go bankcrupt but that doesnt mean it lost money.. it just fails to achieve projected profit margin. but the owners already made money from it.. and that was its purpose.. a call center for example may cease operation if it sees low profitablity. but it doesnt necesarilly mean it lost capital..
    there are some things i really wish to educate ordinary employess, especially about retrenchment and lay-offs..

    hmm if gi challenge ko nimu.. mag ask lang ko nimu.. what imu na contribute sa mga tao nga dili associated nimu in blood? can you give 5 persons a job? i just did my little part.. and im happy doing it..

  8. #78
    This argument is not going anywhere.. having a business is a good thing, working for someone else is also good.. to each his own.. granted some people here are good businessmen, or so they say... but you have no right, absolutely no right at all to call people names! attend to your business, do good.. the call center people/employed people will do the same.. for the record, we have a family business which is doing good... and am also working in the call center industry for several years.. so i know the plus and minuses of both sides.. you may ask why am i not working in our business and choose to be employed? it's my choice, simple as that.
    @AmorsoloX - you look down on people who are employed, yet you say you employ people.. does that mean you look down at those people you employed yourself?? and if everybody here in this world will put up their own business, who will work for you? it's a matter of balance sir.. let people who are employed do their own thing and you go about being successful.. there are those with the gift to start businesses here and there and there are those who are happy and contented enough to be just employed. pogy_uy is right! post your so called success story! then people who are employed might just be hankering to start their own businesses. and if they read the thread and still choose to be employed then that's their right. it's a free country, that's why we are called democratic in the first place isn't it??
    Nobody has the right to judge other people, even prostitutes have their reason for selling flesh. whatever the reason is, let them live their own lives. Be successful in your own field, and maybe someday we'll give you kudos when you appear on Time magazine or whatever for being a great entrepreneur..

  9. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackjellybean27 View Post
    @AmorsoloX - you look down on people who are employed, yet you say you employ people.. does that mean you look down at those people you employed yourself?? and if everybody here in this world will put up their own business, who will work for you? it's a matter of balance sir.. let people who are employed do their own thing and you go about being successful.. there are those with the gift to start businesses here and there and there are those who are happy and contented enough to be just employed. pogy_uy is right! post your so called success story! then people who are employed might just be hankering to start their own businesses. and if they read the thread and still choose to be employed then that's their right. it's a free country, that's why we are called democratic in the first place isn't it??
    correction.. i dont look down on employed people.. but i look down on people who lack imagination and courage to venture outside... sayangan ko ila potential..
    i preach personal growth.. i want everybody to be successful.. poverty starts with the mind. and i hate poverty.. i believe in job creation.. thats why i encourage entrepreneurship..

  10. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorsoloX View Post
    mas maau gani nga ako mga trabahante mkabalo mag business.. it would help me alot if naa ko people to do business with.. i train them to be independent.. i dont worry if manghawa sila.. naa man pud sila gi train na mo puli.. i even helped one former employee start his own convenience store.. and in return, mo sell siya sa ako product.. win-win mi..

    considering sa ila sweldo, dili maka compete sa call centers.. di man pud sila interested sa call centers.. and also, considering sa ilaha demographics. sa ilang salary mas dako percantage ila ma save kay gamay ra man ang cost of living didtu nga place.. useless man ang dako ang sweldo pero dako pud lage cost of living.. think about the value of money.. it varies place to place even within the country.. your 100 pesos in cebu cannot buy the same items for 100 pesos in manila

    i also have licensed professionals under my payroll.. an accountant and a lawyer... partners pud nako mga engineers.. although ulaw sometimes kay ako dili licensed pero nagsweldo ko sa naa lisensya.. (hahaay.. ganahan jud ko mo take board sa CPA.. tiwasonon pa nako ako 5th year sa accounting)..

    patriotic ko kay tanan ako na earn padulong man sa philippines.. walay foreigner nka earn through the efforts of my employees.. kung padakoay lang pildi jud ko.. kung percentage sa income nga ni circulate balik sa ato country nga money, mas dako akoa.. im doing my part

    i have nothing against call center agents or employees.. but im against laziness of imagination nato mga filipinoes.. dili pasabot kay professional ka ma successful jud ka..

    hardcore businessmen seldom fail simply because they learn to have foresight and know when to cut loses.. a business may go bankcrupt but that doesnt mean it lost money.. it just fails to achieve projected profit margin. but the owners already made money from it.. and that was its purpose.. a call center for example may cease operation if it sees low profitablity. but it doesnt necesarilly mean it lost capital..
    there are some things i really wish to educate ordinary employess, especially about retrenchment and lay-offs..

    hmm if gi challenge ko nimu.. mag ask lang ko nimu.. what imu na contribute sa mga tao nga dili associated nimu in blood? can you give 5 persons a job? i just did my little part.. and im happy doing it..
    I know this is not meant for me, but yes i can give 5 persons a job.. I am employed but I can manage to hire 2 yayas for each of my kids, a driver, a houseboy, a helper.. need i say more? Don't tell me that's not considered a job.. by employing them i am able to give them the salary they need to provide for their families as well.. it may not be enough, considering the times but do you think they will be able to apply for higher positions? i don't think so... that's my little part as well...

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