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    Arrow to all bands, audience and promoters


    UPDATE:
    October 22, 2009
    "Rock Vibe Thursday"
    Entrance fee: P70 (you get 1 FREE beer)
    DOCUDRAMA
    CUARENTA
    POWERSPOONZ

    October 26, 2009
    "Island Vibe Monday"
    Entrance fee: P30
    SHEPHERDS PLAID
    NO PARKING ANYTIME
    SUGBUWANON

    October 27, 2009
    "Acoustic Vibe Tuesday"
    Entrance fee: P30
    CARLO and MARY
    THE DIFFICULT STRANGER
    ANDY CALOPE

    Venue will be at Club Vibe (Mango).
    Shows start at 9pm!





    I'm planning on setting up a couple of gigs at a club in mango...the idea would be Reggae Monday, Acoustic/Open Mic/Composer's night on Tuesday and Rock/Metal on Thursday.

    No disrespect to the crowd, bands and other promotions. But to start, I want to point out the problems with gigs these days from 3 point of views (and please correct me if I am wrong!!).

    For the audience:
    1. It's hard to find a venue where we can just chillout, drink some beer, listen to good music and hangout with friends and other like-minded people without costing us an arm and a leg. You might have figured out by now that some clubs/bars jack up the prices on certain occasions (and knowing that, who else starts drinking and building a nice buzz before going out just so you won't spend a lot when you're at the venue? I know I've done this, especially if they have a door fee).
    2. When you want to watch a certain band, it's tiresome to go through other bands just to wait for that particular band (again, no disrespect to other bands and promoters, I will address this issue later). So what do most of you do? You leave. Completely understandable as most of us are pressed for time (especially if we have work on the next day, spend time with the family or other errands).
    3. Sh!tty sound.

    For the bands:
    1. It costs time and money for us to go to gigs and let our music be heard. It hard when the schedule isn't well managed and we get moved to a later time. It's harder when its our time to play and its not our crowd/scene or worse, when there are only a couple of people left and they are just sitting. So what do we do? Most bands come in late on purpose (I say MOST coz some do have valid excuses).
    2. Taking into consideration all the time and effort we made to play but only limited to 3 or 4 songs (max) is a real mood killer. What do we do then? MOST bands, when told that its gonna be their last song, would do a medley to get more stage time. I must admit, my band have done this a few times especially if moved to the last spot.
    3. Sh!tty equipment.

    For the organizers:
    1. It is f#cking hard getting bands together, coordinating with the venue, organizing the equipment and promoting your event! What ends up happening is we take in multiple bands and hope that they will help spread the word of our event.
    2. It sucks when bands are late and it messes up your schedule (and you get blamed for this). Truth be told, we as organizers do have the equipment set up on time! We do have schedules and proper band line up but more often than not, it doesn't get followed.
    3. Getting your equipment f#cked up!


    As you may have noticed, its all ties together. From the organizer, to the bands, to the crowd. I have experienced all 3 problems personally! I know there are more areas to point out but these for me are the major ones.

    So, enough of the rant! Here is what I am proposing:
    1. A consistent venue: Easily accessible to organizers, bands and audience! No more keeping up as to where the next venue might be (only to find out that you're at the right venue but on a wrong date).
    2. An entrance fee: This might turn away some of the crowd but I won't mind spending LESS THAN P100 and get a free beer in return and some good tunes. This is also an incentive for the bands because you are going to get a cut of the entrance fee! The more people you bring, the more money you make (coz truth be told, a round of beer doesn't work out most of the time). For the organizers? Less hassle in promoting your event! And no, I am not taking a cut of the entrance fee. It goes to the bar, the equipment and to the band.
    3. 5 bands per night (6 max). This gives bands more stage time and get into the mood. And since you are going to be inviting your crowd, then the only excuse why there isnt a crowd response is because you didn't play well. For the audience? Hey, you don't have to go thru all the other bands to get to "your" band! Promoters? Less hassle in terms of scheduling.

    Now my favorite! The equipment and sound...Bands hate playing on broken amps and broken drum sets (you all know what I mean). Audiences get bummed out listening to bands playing on broken equipment! Organizers/promoters hate having broken down equipment! Another chain in our problem that's easily fixed! I see it all the time, (in no particular order) bass players want to hear their bass so they turn up the volume, drummers and guitar players cant hear their guitars so they turn the volume up, drummers can hear their instruments so they hit harder (God help the cymbals!!), the vocals get drowned out and they blame the tech why they cant here themselves on the monitors!

    VOLUME + VOLUME + VOLUME = HORRIBLE NOISE!! You don't have to play at full volume. Learn to trust the tech, his job is to make you sound presentable. Turn the volume down and focus on the tuning, that way the audience can hear the awesome guitar riffs, the funky bass lines, the insane drum rolls and the vocals.

    Getting back on topic. My plan of organizing an event,...if things turn out great the first few times then its going to be a weekly gig. However, this gets nowhere if I don't have the support of the bands, the crowd and the promoters. So, what do you guys think?

    First gig would be October 22 and the succeeding Monday, Tuesday and Thursdays.

    For bands that are interested in playing, please send me a private message and I will provide you with more details.

    JR
    Streets of May

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    well, you forgot about one thing with the Audience thing...
    ...please clap your hands even when the band sucks...even 2 claps would do...
    dead air after a song really is eerie... if you are in the band, man, you would want to go home at that instant...

    i love this part..... (God help the cymbals!!) --- this is so true...

    and yes, most venues for these types of entertainment, really sucks when it come to mixing and to the simple thing of getting the Vocalist be heard... geez...

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    why there is no weekend gig, that most people would prefer to go during weekends esp. to those people who are working now, please consider weekend gigs. thanks...

    please do consider new wave genre too

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    @kit_cebu: exactly! lain kaau ang awkward silence once mahuman ang banda. not for nothing but at least they played, right? and in regards to mixing during gigs, its hard to mix properly especially if open area and full volume tanan. ang vocals jud ang malubong permi and its coz we cant really have the mic at full volume coz feedback is annoying as sh!t.

    @j_rotten: the reason why there aren't any weekend gigs is because the place is going to be a club so they would want to keep their weekend target demographics. ideally, it would be great to have weekend gigs especially for those of us that only get the weekends off. as far as genre is concern, its pretty much open, i think we can get new wave on some thursdays as well or maybe have a special tuesday gig for that. its really up to what you guys would suggest will work.

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    i think this could really work!

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    is there a tf for the bands?? hehehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by noigwen View Post
    is there a tf for the bands?? hehehe
    let this guy's band to play in your bar,,
    and evryone will have a good time..

    go Master Noigwen

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    @VampyR: I hope so.

    @noigwen: The band will get a cut from the entrance fee. The more people they bring in, then more money they make. Part of it goes to the bar, the other goes to the band...simple as that. From a band's point of view, it would be great to get some TF but from a production's ground, it is pointless to give out TFs when the band/bands don't give an all out performance and can't get the venue packing with lots of people. And it falls on that "audience problem" where the bands aren't feeling the vibe from the audience. Honestly speaking, nowadays, it isn't enough to just practice on your songs and have a great performance. It also boils down to marketing, and without a great budget who else could market your band/songs better than yourself? Basically, its self-promotion for the band.

    @jakeass: unsa diay banda ni noigwen? wa ko kaila sa mga tao dinhi gud. nindot unta kung ako nang bar bro, kung mao na kay wala ta problema sa weekend gigs hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by GEE-ARR View Post
    @j_rotten: the reason why there aren't any weekend gigs is because the place is going to be a club so they would want to keep their weekend target demographics. ideally, it would be great to have weekend gigs especially for those of us that only get the weekends off. as far as genre is concern, its pretty much open, i think we can get new wave on some thursdays as well or maybe have a special tuesday gig for that. its really up to what you guys would suggest will work.
    ok bai, thanks...

    maybe you can ask the owner of the club to put a weekend gig once a month, it could be the first weekend of the month or the last weekend?

    just post the band who will perform on your opening day

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    @j_rotten: I made that suggestion but I don't see it happening any time soon. I think it would all depend if the weekly gigs are gonna work out or not. But like I said, it would be great to have a weekend gig. I'll certainly update you guys if there are any. Regarding the bands on the opening night, I already have 2 confirmed bands and 3 for the next Thursday. As much as I want let you guys know who are playing (that way the word will spread as soon as possible), I would rather wait and finalize the whole thing first.

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