Evolution is now A FACT OF LIFE

[Maikeru]

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^ it is possible for a theory to mature into a law and at the same time has the possibility to become a crap. But right now, darwinian evolution, remains a theory.

[schmuck]

I'm waiting for the biologist's answer...

[jamesmusslewhite]

gosh, its been 68 pages already..

for what its worth, all this evolution talk is probably going to crumble sooner or later..
from what i've learned in the past couple of months, there is no credible proof that states darwinian evolution is a fact.. its still basically all conjecture that "seems" to point towards a probable proof..

the only fact of the matter is that we are all still based on the same genetic building blocks only rearranged in different manners. if you talk of evolution in the darwinian sense, you're supposed to "acquire" new traits.. but what is there to "acquire" when you're still using the same building blocks? its just a matter of different configurations being able to "express" that trait fast enough in order to "adapt" to the environment, otherwise, you go extinct.

it would look like we came from bacteria (or single-celled organisms), but really now.. that's just a lopsided interpretation.. we do not come from bacteria.. we ARE the bacteria who just "transformed" into higher organisms as this so-called evolution took place.. "transform" because nothing is new.. every living thing is basically the same.. just different genetic expressions..

if another type of nucleotide were to be added to our preset 4 (A-T, G-C), then this evolution concept will probably be more credible..

these are just my thoughts..

this coincides with the theosophical interpretation that we are the lemurians that "supposedly" went extinct in the 5th cycle of human "evolution"..

I knew you were probably a data miner. Welcome to my nightmare, to learn that DNA is rewriting the books on evolution yet the books are not changing because too many prominent careers, reputations and Government Grant monies is involved. If while you have access to all those beautiful text books.

Look up the new geological data that show there has been a systematic oppression of world wide flood event data. that report very rapid sedimentation and periods of great carbonate deposition in earth's sedimentary layers.

The research of Physicist Robert Gentry has reported isolated radio halos of polonuim-214 in crystalline granite. The half-life of this element is 0.000164 seconds! To record the existence of this element in such short time span, the granite must be in crystalline state instantaneously. This runs counter to evolutionary estimates of 300 million years for granite to form. Information derived by the Super Collider project.

Physicist Melvin Cook, Nobel Prize medalist found that helium-4 enters our atmosphere from solar wind and radioactive decay of uranium. At present rates our atmosphere would accumulate current helium-4 amounts in less than 10,000 years.

Did you ever look up the Ica stones I told you about. And good luck with your Doctorate I would like a copy of your dissertation? I am proud of you the Philippines only produces 14 Scientist and Engineers per every one million population. Everyone should be proud of you. It is hard to go back to school and get back into rhythm. You have my respect.

[jamesmusslewhite]

^ please spare me the baby talk.

is a theory any lesser than a law?
YES, a Law is verifiable fact.
A theory is just a possibility or belief and is not proven to be deserving the title of law.

does a theory mature into a law?
Yes, many have but they had to proven to be absolutes
Maturity is an unusual term, but if the science proves a theory can be fact, it can become a law.
Laws can also be disproved and then they are just relegated to being just bad science theories.
Works both ways.

I thought my answer above answered all of this redundancy. If you have anymore questions please ask. I will be more than happy to answer them

[HALIKniHUDAS]

gosh, its been 68 pages already..

for what its worth, all this evolution talk is probably going to crumble sooner or later..
from what i've learned in the past couple of months, there is no credible proof that states darwinian evolution is a fact.. its still basically all conjecture that "seems" to point towards a probable proof..

the only fact of the matter is that we are all still based on the same genetic building blocks only rearranged in different manners. if you talk of evolution in the darwinian sense, you're supposed to "acquire" new traits.. but what is there to "acquire" when you're still using the same building blocks? its just a matter of different configurations being able to "express" that trait fast enough in order to "adapt" to the environment, otherwise, you go extinct.

it would look like we came from bacteria (or single-celled organisms), but really now.. that's just a lopsided interpretation.. we do not come from bacteria.. we ARE the bacteria who just "transformed" into higher organisms as this so-called evolution took place.. "transform" because nothing is new.. every living thing is basically the same.. just different genetic expressions..

if another type of nucleotide were to be added to our preset 4 (A-T, G-C), then this evolution concept will probably be more credible..

these are just my thoughts..

this coincides with the theosophical interpretation that we are the lemurians that "supposedly" went extinct in the 5th cycle of human "evolution"..

mao diay kay mo coincide sa Theosophy, theosophist ka? mora man ka og creationist kato ra mo coincide sa bible ang ilang dawaton.

misconception man na noy, wa man siguro ka kasabot sa imong gisulti.

klaroha kono, dili ka motoo nga ang lower form ni evolve?

[cromagnon]

I believe in evo going back to bigbang that did happen . and whateever the posibility that was before that.

but
@ james
@kebot

anybody can find all the wrong things on such theories.

but how do u look at creationism ? im sure u also find some or lots of the something fishy on it.

but do u believe creationism as

a. claim,
b.theory
c. fact
d. or not more than a possibility

[jamesmusslewhite]

I'm waiting for the biologist's answer...



Please, indulge me. What is a Scientific Theory and a Scientific Law.
Is one higher than the other? Will a theory mature to become a law?

Go on, show us how much of a "biologist" you are.

I did in Post #1009

[HALIKniHUDAS]

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I did in Post #1009

you pretend to be scientist? answer shmuck's question directly.

[schmuck]

^ please spare me the baby talk.

is a theory any lesser than a law?
YES, a Law is verifiable fact.
A theory is just a possibility or belief and is not proven to be deserving the title of law.

does a theory mature into a law?
Yes, many have but they had to proven to be absolutes
Maturity is an unusual term, but if the science proves a theory can be fact, it can become a law.
Laws can also be disproved and then they are just relegated to being just bad science theories.
Works both ways.

I thought my answer above answered all of this redundancy. If you have anymore questions please ask. I will be more than happy to answer them

^ it is possible for a theory to mature into a law and at the same time has the possibility to become a crap. But right now, darwinian evolution, remains a theory.

I have posted this somewhere in the forum before.

from Scientific theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scientific laws are similar to scientific theories in that they are principles that can be used to predict the behavior of the natural world. Both scientific laws and scientific theories are typically well-supported by observations and/or experimental evidence. Usually scientific laws refer to rules for how nature will behave under certain conditions.[7] Scientific theories are more overarching explanations of how nature works and why it exhibits certain characteristics.
A common misconception is that scientific theories are rudimentary ideas that will eventually graduate into scientific laws when enough data and evidence has been accumulated. A theory does not change into a scientific law with the accumulation of new or better evidence. A theory will always remain a theory, a law will always remain a law.[8]

BAM! pwnage. how does it feel?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

It is as simple as this :

- Ask a Question
- Do Background Research
- Construct a Hypothesis
- Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
- Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
- Communicate Your Results

To all who discounts CREATION and relies on EVOLUTION , provide a link or source and it dont matter if its reliable or not regarding the last 2 methods of SCIENTIFIC STUDY which are the ANALYZIZATION and CONCLUSION and COMMUNICATION of RESULTS .

From that stand of point , it should put to an end sa argument . We already absorbed gazillions of knowledge no matter where it came from or sourced at . As long as the last 2 methods arent materialized , it will always remain a THEORY and we all know what a THEORY is , scientist or not .