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  1. #691

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    james, we are basing our arguments from people within the scientific community.
    I am sorry but I am not sure if that is a statement or a question? I am basing no argument. I am basing no debate. I am listing names of Scientist who themselves have seriously questioned Darwinian Theory, and have signed their names expressing their disbelief in the validity of that theory. If you have a problem with their beliefs please fill free dropping them an email. You have their Names, Science and educational conditionals, and Universities where they are Professors. I am sure they will be glad to entertain any questions you may have. They will be glad to educate you if you have the grades to be accepted into their Universities to attend their lectures. They are some of the finest Universities of higher learning in the World.

    Have I done something wrong? I only pointed out that there are many highly respected minds in the field of the sciences question this theory. So scientist are not suppose to question theories look at all the evidence available and verify their belief in the accuracy of the evidence? And these scientist should not sign their names on a document placing their professional reputations in solidarity of their belief? That a member can not place a link to the names of the list of names of those scientist in a thread on the topic of the Darwinian theory?

    Please respond and let me know if I have done something inappropriate, dishonest, or insulting. Please explain, Thank you.

  2. #692
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinyalan View Post
    Well james, i'll pretend that I believe in your god. Now, you question... "why god choose that my heart not receive faith, or why my eyes are closed?" Hmmmm... that's a big problem for your god! If he is that all-powerful, he would come down and tell me face to face that I am wrong. Since god is the creator of me then he would listen to me whenever I asked something specific. i.e. give justice to those who are corrupt. Solve the unsolved crimes committed by his own creation. Give solace to those are in dire needs. the fact is, god is loving and caring so he would reach out to those people who he created. Oh, I love god and I wish god will give me my requests...

    I think I'm going to vomit... Off mode!

    So, james would your god reveal himself in physical form or better yet a cloud of smoke that he exist. You believe that I will keep seeking him? I doubt james that I will for a second find faith/belief in your god because all of you guys [creationists, fundamentalists, extremists...] will ever going to convince me that your god exist.
    All I can say is that 25 years ago I would have said the same things. I shook my fists at the the heavens at the height of a thunderstorm and raging typhoon. I cursed, "And said if you can not hurt me, than you damn well can not help me!" I dared him to strike me dead as I stood, because I had things to tell him." I guess I got his attentions, because 15 years later his presence struck my heart like lightning and I have not been the same man since. I do not know why it took 15 years? was he backlogged? Or was it just not my time yet?

    Maybe if he had then, then I would not be here now talking to you now? Who will I meet that I would not have met, if the timing were different. I thank every man's destiny is interwoven with the thread of every man's destinies to make an intricate tapestry. One string has it's place in the fabric of creation, change one thread and that tapestry will be different. Each thread has it's proper place and unique time. Who know were you will be and who you will be in 15, 20. 39 years from now? I do believe he knows. Each thread will be fitted into that grand work.

    5 billion people, hundreds of generations, with how many more generation to come, and a pitcher too complex for a mere man's brain to grasp. We are all but a single thread.

  3. #693
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    I keep hearing the same evothugs spouting how Darwinian Theory is some how relegated to a law and that no referable man of science could have doubt of it's volatility. That scientist are supportive and only small-witted mindless religious Bible preaching thumpers are the thorn in the side of evolution. Science has no problem because science has somehow proven Darwin to be right and is above reproach. They ridicule those against Darwinian Theory are fools, uneducated and non scientific minded drones and deserve to be scoffed at and ridiculed. We that make the evothugs LIERS and the following list of referable College Professors and leaders of their fields who like me had questioned Darwin findings.

    http://www.discovery.org/scripts/vie...ownload&id=660

    Do us all a favor write these esteemed gentlemen and tell you short minded fables to them. Spare us you hateful dribble.
    james, we are basing our arguments from people within the scientific community.



    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    I am sorry but I am not sure if that is a statement or a question? I am basing no argument. I am basing no debate. I am listing names of Scientist who themselves have seriously questioned Darwinian Theory, and have signed their names expressing their disbelief in the validity of that theory. If you have a problem with their beliefs please fill free dropping them an email. You have their Names, Science and educational conditionals, and Universities where they are Professors. I am sure they will be glad to entertain any questions you may have. They will be glad to educate you if you have the grades to be accepted into their Universities to attend their lectures. They are some of the finest Universities of higher learning in the World.
    james, we ( not you and I but "we") are basing our arguments from people who studies science and have had graduated from the finest Universities of higher learning in the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    Have I done something wrong? I only pointed out that there are many highly respected minds in the field of the sciences question this theory. So scientist are not suppose to question theories look at all the evidence available and verify their belief in the accuracy of the evidence? And these scientist should not sign their names on a document placing their professional reputations in solidarity of their belief? That a member can not place a link to the names of the list of names of those scientist in a thread on the topic of the Darwinian theory?

    Please respond and let me know if I have done something inappropriate, dishonest, or insulting. Please explain, Thank you.
    read it again ,this time read the meaning not the content.

  4. #694
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    just because your rules were written way before man discovered evolution doesn't mean it's the more credible theory. the fact that it was written eons ago makes it more unreliable than ever
    --- their story told me they are still right up to this day... and they must be right on the CREATOR CLAIM. what do you think?
    i’m sorry, what?

    --- did you ask the same question with evolution? Actually DAWKINS IS SELLING BOOKS FAST. Is it because of his story that you believe? well he enjoys it while you believe it... that is why a lot of people will want to fool you with evolution because in the end its about MONEY.
    Dawkins is a direct-to-the-point hater. he ain't having none of those bullsh!t creationsists love to put on the table and that’s precisely the reason why people love Dawkins. his atheistic arguments surely is painful, but who cares? his books are selling and the guy is making millions. keep in mind though, that Dawkins is a scientist. so it's really not all about money---it's about stating the facts. hard to accept?

    --- did anyone insist on debating creationism? one thing that is certain chad, EVOLUTIONIST CANNOT COME UP WITH A STORY THAT SUPPORTS THE CONCLUSION, but that does not mean Creationism is RIGHT in you perspective either. So why insist?
    who’s insisting what? We’re just talkin’.

  5. #695
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    in other words, you don't know. oh yes He is in control all the times, like a tyrant, well, im basing it according to your OWN interpretation of who God is.

    Well the Holly books I have read state that he is. Am I sure? Well no, but who can actually answerer that question honestly? I think of him as a stern Father who practices tough Love. Personal interpretations is why their are 1,000's of different regions; but I believe there is only one God.

    you need to send him your email james.

    I am sure he knows it, but I am not worthy enough to be on his mailing list. I am sure Satan has it too, which is why I get so much Spam mail.


    sorry to disappoint you james, but this is not your comfort zone, this place is not your sunday school where you are free to say anything w/o being questioned.

    Please feel free to ask if I have an answer I will answer, if I do not then I will say so. I am no Preacher, because I do not want anything from you. Just free exchange of ideas. I may be cleaver, but I am far from being a smart man. I make mistakes everyday. Please question, it is how we learn about ourselves. You will never disappoint me as long as you are respectful.

    im being judgmental? bwahaha, are you so blind that you can't see your own " holier than thou " attitude oozing out from the pores of this forum?

    I will have to then answer that question, Yes. But it is not my attentions to try to be better than another. I am but a bug, and small in the schema of everything. I do know that I am confident and being raised in Texas was taught to bow to no man, and no man is better than another. I am confrontational by nature and by upbringing. Have you been exposed to many Americans of Texans who will actuall talk to you as an equal, be blunt and honest and tell you things about themselves that are intiment? Could some of that feeling be cultural differences. I know I hope so. We can learn form eachother if common ground can be established.

    we are free to question anything and anyone, don't be too conceited. and hey, since when questioning a concept of God becomes a crime? surely not in my book.

    Well that statement can not be truer. And please do not confuse confidence with conceit, there are bid differences. You can be confident and not be conceded. If I was conceited I would feel I was wasting my time with this forum, because I would be too full of false pride. I have encountered False Pride and conceit on this forum, but try to get beyond that. If it is the Holy book that is the core of Islam, Judaism, and Christianity that that can be coincided blasphemy and that is a dangerous topic. I have no desire to blaspheme, please feel free to engage in it all you want, God is a big boy, I am sure he want mind...hehehe

    Thanks for you questions and comments.

  6. #696
    Psalm 14:1
    The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

    The one who says "there is no God" is a fool

    decide whether you believe it or not...
    just like repley's believe it or not...

    have a nice day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    [/COLOR] Thanks for you questions and comments.
    thank God, you came back to your senses. Im expecting more calmness and interesting discussions with you.

  8. #698
    Quote Originally Posted by Eisen Japhet Larnx View Post
    Psalm 14:1
    The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

    The one who says "there is no God" is a fool

    decide whether you believe it or not...
    just like repley's believe it or not...

    have a nice day...
    wow. so i'm a fool then... and all the other atheists and agnostics in this forum. what a shame! hey you fools! how are ya?!

  9. #699
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    wow. so i'm a fool then... and all the other atheists and agnostics in this forum. what a shame! hey you fools! how are ya?!
    well said...
    then you are....

  10. #700
    Quote Originally Posted by Eisen Japhet Larnx View Post
    well said...
    then you are....
    first, why don't we define what FOOL means:

    Fool - a person who lacks good judgment.

    ...so that makes every agnostic and atheists a fool? if so, then logic tells me that makes every Christian NOT a fool... how pathetic.

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