Evolution is now A FACT OF LIFE

[Tirong-say]

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2nd OT:
Originally Posted by regnauld:
What if there was no bible or if you have never read the bible and what if you were born from a Hindu or Muslim parents? would your belief still be the same like that of what you have now?

funny. i once asked my mother the same question. her answer was the same with jamesmusslewhite: Of course the odds would be that my core beliefs would be different, because I would be influenced by my environment in which I would be raised.

when i asked more questions, she said: leave me be with my faith and beliefs

Sometimes, Mother knows best....he-he

[miyay]

Sometimes, Mother knows best....he-he

true, sir, true. but most of the time, i think. maappreciate ra nato ang wisdom sa mga katiguwangan kung magkatiguwang nasad ta

[Pein]

OT: What if there was no bible or if you have never read the bible and what if you were born from a Hindu or Muslim parents? would your belief still be the same like that of what you have now?

sayon raman na bro.

Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another

naay "law" sa imong kasingkasing nga gibutang sa Dios mao bitaw bisan wala ka nakabati sa pulong sa Dios makahibaw ka unsay maayo ug dautan. kung ikaw nga wala nakabati sa pulong sa Dios, naa ka sa lugar nga dili maabot ang Bible like Middle East kay bawal ang bible didto, pero imong gibuhat ang mga butang nga naa sa balaod, aw justified ka sa mata sa Ginoo.

basin i apply na nimo sa imong kaugalingon ha dili jud na maapply nimo kay ikaw nakadungog naka sa pulong sa Ginoo. mao nay giingon, ignorance is bliss...

[Pein]

I suppose you give us an answer that your god magically created everything by his will. hmmmm... sounds hairy-tale, este fairy tale kaayo.

Can you gives us a brief description how did your god created all living things?

Can you precisely give us an answer why your god exist?

mas mutuo pako sa giingon nimong fairy tale that God created all things in order kesa sa dili daw fairy tale nga tungod sa usa ka aksidente namugna ang tanan.

(JOB 34:13) Who has given the earth as a deposit with Him? Or who has set the whole world in order?

what causes everything to exist lagi? by accident? mugna ra sa aksidente nang ang tawo mupagawas kag carbon dioxide needed for plants ug ang plants mupagawas ug oxygen para sa tawo? aksidente na para sa imo nga naay harmonious relationship ang tanan?

toinks!

[Pein]

You are not using your CRITICAL THINKING here but just your FAITH which is never universal in the first place.

What is your basis or EVIDENCE and PROOF that there is such thing as a final judgment? Do you think the world will end because of the final judgment and do you really think that this is LITERAL? Sounds like Science Fiction.

The UNIVERSE is here to stay as long as there is the LAW of EVOLUTION!

BTW, many people esp. from other christian denominations have predicted the final judgment long ago that the world will end but they were PROVEN WRONG AGAIN!

asa man pud ang imong EVIDENCE and PROOF that there is such thing as REINCARNATION? asa naman lamang unya mo reincarnate kung maguba na ang kalibutan? kung tan awn lang nimo karon daghan kaayo sigeg campaign nga "save planet earth" kay fragile na kaayo ang sitwasyon sa atong kalibutan. asa naman lamang unya mo reincarnate kung imposible na ang life diri sa kalibutan? maglutaw lutaw mo sa space?

[Tirong-say]

true, sir, true. but most of the time, i think. maappreciate ra nato ang wisdom sa mga katiguwangan kung magkatiguwang nasad ta

Maybe mature lang Sis.....
Yup wisdom that was tested by them and by time, what they say will always work...

[jamesmusslewhite]

OT:


actually, sir, based on google (disclaimer: please research more to check the veracity of these statements), the oldest organized religions are the following:

1. Hinduism - around 1,500 B.C.E. (before common era), only because the vedas were written during that time. Hinduism could be much older than this.
2. Judaism traces its roots back to the patriarch Abraham, who lived around 1,800 B.C.E. Moses who first recorded the Torah, the Jewish holy text, in 1,400 B.C.E. btw, the jews are still waiting for their messiah.
3. Zoroastrianism is sometimes called the world's oldest prophetic religion. Some believe Zarathustra lived in the 6th century B.C.E., while others trace his writings to the 14th or 13th centuries B.C.E.
4. Jainism - The first of Jainism's sacred lords, called a Tirthankara, lived in the 8th century B.C.E. The last of these lords was Mahavir, who lived in the 5th century B.C.E. and was a key figure in spreading the religion.
5. Buddhism -The philosophical teachings of Siddhartha Gautama, known as the Buddha, spread around Asia after his death in 483 B.C.E.

Oddly enough, the two religions that dominate the world today are relative newcomers to the spiritual scene. Christianity began with the teachings of Jesus Christ around 30 C.E., and Islam started in 610 C.E. with the prophet Muhammad's revelation.

You could be right about completed text of religions. Henduism is believed to have started around the time of Abraham's birth 2000 BCE and he lived 175 years. So it is at least 50-200 years earlier than the writings of Abraham. I stand corrected.

There are older stories in Judaism but I do not known when they were scribed, and some were passes through oral traditions of Genisis, Garden of edan, and stories of Noah and the flood.

Hinduism writes of an evil God 1 million years ago. The story sounds like the war between God and Satan described in the Book of Enoch. I think it is collective memory of an event from our deep past, during the time of the First Creation, that time before the Garden of Eden's Adam and Eve(2nd Wife), Even before Adam and Lilith(1st Wife). When Satan wared with God and was cast to earth with 1/3 of all the angles.

[cromagnon]

how about thinking outside the box of religion.

[cromagnon]

@ pein ,

there are species that never changed . since they suit in the environment .,


the first earth living things are bacterias, until now they never change.

i suggest u study evolution para maka sabot ka,.

That is the point, that both sides want to be 100% right and have the other side be 100% wrong. If they were to accept to meet in the middle and look at all the facts, myths, misinformation, and information, they each would figure out they were 50% right all along. Each side would then walk away smarter and would have 80% of the real story of our past answered.

Problem is false pride, which is the largest hurtle to overcome.

if the 2 works together , then religion should admit that some bile claims are just representaion and not claims ,. since these is waht causes the conflic,.

ex. heaven n hell . at the first place never exsisted.

[Pein]

@ pein ,

there are species that never changed . since they suit in the environment .,


the first earth living things are bacterias, until now they never change.

i suggest u study evolution para maka sabot ka,.





if the 2 works together , then religion should admit that some bile claims are just representaion and not claims ,. since these is waht causes the conflic,.

ex. heaven n hell . at the first place never exsisted.

what causes bacteria to exist?