Karma and Reincarnation.

[Pein]

GOD is the GOD ALL in ALL

(Names are just concepts and ideas and still that is not GOD because names are limited even GOD as a name is limited and therefore not GOD)

so sayop diay ang pagtuo sa mga tawo sa India kay daghan man silag gods nga gisimba didto dili raman kay usa ra. sa ila gud nag originate nang reincarnation unya ikaw igo raka nikuha ana nga pagtulun an, so kinsa man juy tinuod ani? ikaw or sila?

hmmmm...

[vahnhelsing]

Very Good question.

If one is TRULY AWAKENED just like Jesus The Christ or Buddha, no need for him to reincarnate in the next life unless the soul CHOOSES to reincarnate in order to assist others for their spiritual growth and evolution. Many masters have reincarnated not because they were not able to perfect themselves but because they have the desire to HELP HUMANITY in spiritual progress. Sometimes this is called MISSION KARMA!

how can we choose to reincarnate when there is a supreme judge over us? can we chose where we can reincarnate or in short chose our parents?

[Soul Doctor]

naa kay problema bro kay sa India kung dis a nag originate ang pagtulun an nga reincarnation daghan man silag gods nga gisimba. so kinsa may tinuod ninyo ani ron? sila or ikaw?

hmmmm...

That is why I do not have a religion.

If you take away all the religion--
and if people forget everything about their religion--
when you ask everyone what and who is their God?


We will all have the same God!

So lose your religion.
So we all can have one God.
So we can all live in peace.

[necrotic freak]

That is why I do not have a religion.

If you take away all the religion--
and if people forget everything about their religion--
when you ask everyone what and who is their God?


We will all have the same God!

So lose your religion.
So we all can have one God.
So we can all live in peace.

Whenever you have a relation to a God (whether its only you and your god) its still a religion.

Granting, we all had loose our religion and believing now in what you called "one God" so all humanity now believe in one God, isn't that a religion too?

I think what you mean is;

So lose your doctrine.
So we all can have one Doctrine.
So we can all live in peace.

[necrotic freak]

I would rather say my religion is UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD and that includes Esoteric Christianity!

na register nana sa SEC imong religion bro?

[bluedes]

Whenever you have a relation to a God (whether its only you and your god) its still a religion.

Granting, we all had loose our religion and believing now in what you called "one God" so all humanity now believe in one God, isn't that a religion too?

I think what you mean is;

So lose your doctrine.
So we all can have one Doctrine.
So we can all live in peace.

that is not religion bro, but simply spirituality.. ang religion kay packaged na dha ang mga dogmas and doctrines.. but spiritually is simply a connection with the Divine (or God).. di na necessarily religion ang tawag ana..

[necrotic freak]

I understand.

That is expected already especially if one is studying ESOTERIC WISDOM. Some people like Christians don't really know and understand about MYSTICISM and OCCULT SCIENCE. They just make harsh judgment without even attempting to investigate what the SEEKERS are actually studying. There is no EVIL PRACTICES involved. We are just there to STUDY as what Jesus said, SEEK and YOU SHALL FIND. In Seeking, we are constantly studying and reflecting.

In theosophy, there 3 general practices that we choose to do:

1. Study and Reflection (Philosophy, Science and Comparative Religion), 2. Silence and Meditation 3. Service to Humanity!

I hope this will enlighten you!

SEEKING too much and you shall find something not good.

[necrotic freak]

that is not religion bro, but simply spirituality.. ang religion kay packaged na dha ang mga dogmas and doctrines.. but spiritually is simply a connection with the Divine (or God).. di na necessarily religion ang tawag ana..

spirituality is part of the religion package not just dogmas and doctrines.

[amingb]

Sige dili ta magpataka ug interpret and I will let you show another interpretation!

Hebrews 9:27 Does Not Disprove Reincarnation

Hebrews 9:27 is often quoted out of context as proof that the New Testament preaches against reincarnation. The verse that is quoted says: "... man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment,.. KJV.

The logic expressed is that since a man only dies once that this is proof that we only incarnate physically once. The argument goes that if we reincarnate over and over then we die more than once. Since this scripture plainly says we die only once then this scripture obviously disproves reincarnation. However, this logic doesn't hold up. The New Testament teaches that more than one death is possible. In fact it teachs that the majority of mankind is in danger of a second death. Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.

Why would Hebrews talk of man only dying once and in Revelation speak of man dying twice? Is this a contradiction? There is no contradiction. This is made clear when Hebrews 9:27 is read in the context of what is being taught.

The author of Hebrews 9:27 was not discussing reincarnation at all. The subject being addressed was whether or not Yeshua (Jesus) had to die more than once for the sins of mankind. One of the misconsceptions about the sacrifice Yeshua made for the sins of mankind was whether or not he had to be sacrificed over and over like the sacrifices made in the temple were every year. From the Jewish mindset, this was a legitimate concern. The Jewish law required a blood sacrifice every year for the sins of the nation. The author of Hebrews dispells the notion that Yeshua had to die more than once and this is made clear when it is read in the context of the other verses.
However, this verse isn't talking about reincarnation at all. If you read the entire Chapter of Hebrews 9 you will notice that the subject was about whether or not Christ had to be sacrificed more than once. This is made obvious when the scripture is read in context with the before and after scriptures.


Hebrews 9:19 When Moses had proclaimed every commandment of the law to all the people, he took the blood of calves, together with water, scarlet wool and branches of hyssop, and sprinkled the scroll and all the people. 20 He said, "This is the blood of the covenant, which God has commanded you to keep."21 In the same way, he sprinkled with the blood both the tabernacle and everything used in its ceremonies. 22 In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. 23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ did not enter a man-made sanctuary that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God's presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Then Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But now he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him. NIV

The author of Hebrews uses a simile here to make his point that Christ only has to die once. With the exception of individuals such has Lazurus, who died and was physically resurrected by Christ as one of the miracles he performed to prove he was the Messiah, most people only die once. Hebrews 9:27 is not about reincarnation but is part of a series of verses that are discussing something else entirely. As such, the scripture is useless in proving or disproving reincarnation.


Reincarnation: Hebrews 9:27 Does Not Teach Against Reincarnation

So, Have you carefully read and analyzed this?

I Beg to Disaggree most of the reference to Refute Hebrews 9:27

Gnostic are heretics ....

Reincarnation is an Endless life cycle of Death and Rebirth .. and the Bible does not teach Reincarnation ...

Revelation 20:6 Does Not Contradict Hebrews 9:27

Second Death meaning Spiritual Death .....

"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:14,15.

[necrotic freak]

Why is there a need for purgatory? Purgatory for me is here in earth because TO LIVE IS TO SUFFER and to SURVIVE is to FIND MEANING IN THE SUFFERING! Why do I have to go to Purgatory when I am already suffering here on earth? That's very illogical and that is double jeopardy!

you know i remember long ago you mentioned purgatory is the equivalent of K&R for catholics..

are you sure all people leaving today are suffering? i dont think so reg.

your thoughts are only good for lyrical purposes in metal music.