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  1. #131

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    HALIKniHUDAS

    Good point,

    Both Church and Science share the same blind stubbornness when faced with short-sided thinkers who are scared of change. The church persecuted science out of ignorance, and now science persecutes the Bible out of arrogance. Truth is they are both wrong, because they both are full of arrogant ignorance.
    out of ignorance gud tawn. mas motoo sila sa ilang doktrina kaysa sa science. unya ra...lain man ni nga ponto noy. imong ponto is majority majorty man to...so looy jud kaayo si Galileo.

  2. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    And who is now right? You?

    I do not think I am smarter that the Bible or science, only that I understand the truths that they both share. Both are greatly misrepresented and both are needed to fully try to understand our universe. I just to not get carried away with the lies. There are so many, and I do not just trust. I have been reading and researching science over 30 years. Not all sciences are credible and many are based on faith of vague theories. There have been many frauds over the last 140 years.

    I have learned that science can not disprove the bible. Often science has relied on the Bible. I believe in intelligent design, most science accepts intelligent design. So who designed it.
    Can science understand how to control weather?
    Can science cure the common cold?
    Can science cure all cancers?
    Does Science understand sleep?
    Whats in the bottom of the ocean?
    What are all the secrets on the earth?
    fully understand how our bodies function?
    The answer is NO, so they understand the universe, and how the earth was 8,000 years ago? They can not agree on how old the pyramids are. They can explain how man evolved from, when they are not even sure what the supposedly evolved into?

    I trust the Bible, because I have very little faith in man. It come closer to explaining these questions then the science does. It took years of study to understand Satan's plan for man, and how he has blinded man to do his bidding. I am just happy that my eyes are open and my mind aware. If a person chooses to close their mind and choose to be blinded, then they can never understand what I am saying.

    I am not right, God is right, and I am just a believer. But please feel free to criticize me and think I am a fool. You can not accept my belief as the truth and I can not accept your belief as the truth; it is the curse of being a believer. I accept it and ware it proudly. I follow the word of God and will till the day I die. Then we will both truly will know the truth. The truth is not mine it is his.

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    "To build may have to be the slow
    and laborious task of years. To
    destroy can be the thoughtless
    act of a single day."

    Source: Winston Churchill


    "Anyone who seeks to destroy
    the passions instead
    of controlling them is
    trying to play the angel."

    Source: Voltaire



    "As societies grow decadent, the language
    grows decadent, too. Words are used
    to disguise,not to illuminate, action:
    you liberate a city by destroying it.
    Words are to confuse, so that at election
    time people will solemnly vote
    against their own interests"

    Source: Gore Vidal



    "When a man wantonly destroys one of the
    works of man we call him a vandal. When
    he destroys one of the works of
    god we call him a sportsman."

    Source: Joseph Wood Krutch

  4. #134
    i've never understood why there is so much bruhaha over creationist vs. evolutionist

  5. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    i've never understood why there is so much bruhaha over creationist vs. evolutionist
    hehehe dont underestimate the power of human stupidity... the world keeps on turning ...

  6. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    i've never understood why there is so much bruhaha over creationist vs. evolutionist
    creationists think that if evolution is true, di na tinuod na God created us out of 7 days in the bible.. mao na insecure sila sa evolution theory kay madaut man gud ilang precious story of creationism.. that is the only reason why creationist are so against creationism..

    wa sila kahibalo na ang mga people nagbuhat sa evolution kay wala jud intention ana.. take a look at gregor mendel, an augustinian monk who is the father of genetics.. his study greatly validates evolution theory of darwin.. ang kapait lng wa sila nagabot atong panahona, although they were alive in the same generation. only now lately na grabeh pud ang advancement sa biology, chemistry and physics at the molecular level na mavalidate ang theory of evolution. its all centered on biochemistry, molecular biology and genetics ang proof sa evolution.. no doubt about that.. di na jud na malalis.. the creationists however are very desperate na using fraudulent attacks against evolution theory na stone age na technology pa na gamit..

  7. #137
    ^i see. but actually, i don't see. it all sounds mad/insane, this vs. thing
    simpleminded lang jud siguro ko

  8. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    Can science understand how to control weather?
    chaos theory

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    Can science cure the common cold?
    the rate of mutation of a bacteriophage of the common flu virus is really fast depending on the strain of the virus. the mutation permutations for a DNA nucleotide sequence of even a 100 base pairs is a huge number.. even the fastest computers now cannot predict these mutations, that's why its almost impossible to predict unsa ang next mutation to develop a vaccine for that next possible mutation.. only when they have a sample of the current strain na makadevelop sila ug vaccine, and it takes time to develop a vaccine, by the time ma-finish na sila ug develop ug vaccine, nimutate na ang strain in the wild to another type. the best that medical people can do is to contain the strain and prevent it from spreading to prevent mutation.. that is why kung naa kay flu, isolate yourself from others para dili matakdan para dili mutate.. mutants man ni sila na iglas kaayo..

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    Can science cure all cancers
    we are still in the early age of our science and even now still understanding the nature of cancers and tumors.. resources are scarce.. pero at least now they are devoting millions of money for research on these cancers.. eventually we will be able to find the cure for cancers kay successful naman gani ang cure sa mga mild tumors.. time ra ang kontra

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    Does Science understand sleep?
    Whats in the bottom of the ocean?
    What are all the secrets on the earth?
    fully understand how our bodies function?
    science as a body of knowledge is still very young.. but the good thing is, the knowledge it is producing is solid ang foundation.. there is direction into the understanding of our universe.. if you were given a choice of the method of finding out the truth of how this universe works, would you rather choose a bunch of words that could mean anything na wa ta kahibaw gisuwat2x ra diay to sa hubog na tawo kaysa a definite way to validate data thru experiments? so kung mupalit ka ug tambal, adto pa diay ka magpabuhat ug tambal sa quack doctor? di man ka mutuo ug science kaha sa mga pharmaceuticals and biotech companies?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    I trust the Bible, because I have very little faith in man. It come closer to explaining these questions then the science does. It took years of study to understand Satan's plan for man, and how he has blinded man to do his bidding. I am just happy that my eyes are open and my mind aware. If a person chooses to close their mind and choose to be blinded, then they can never understand what I am saying.
    there's a contradiction.. how can you have very little faith in man and trust the bible na man ra man pud gasuwat sa bible.. ang ginoo diay nagsuwat jud sa bible? using God's hand and a pencil writing by itself? diba man ra man pud nagsuwat ug compile sa bible.. unreliable man kaha ang man, ngano gamit man ang ginoo sa man to write his book of life? ironic man na..

    science is just another method of finding the truth.. and people out there are given inspiration out of a wonder and amazement sa beauty of creation which is actually just another form of praise for God put in a different manner..

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    I am not right, God is right, and I am just a believer. But please feel free to criticize me and think I am a fool. You can not accept my belief as the truth and I can not accept your belief as the truth; it is the curse of being a believer. I accept it and ware it proudly. I follow the word of God and will till the day I die. Then we will both truly will know the truth. The truth is not mine it is his.
    did God say that science is wrong? knowledge based on reasonable facts is not a belief anymore.. it is already called KNOWLEDGE.. there is a difference between belief and knowledge.. if you do not accept knowledge, then you are foolish.. knowledge is not acquired by our own will alone, it is also a gift from God..

  9. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by botslob View Post
    Di man ko mamakak pareho's ninyo . Kent Hovind - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    From creationists

    Hovind has been criticized by other creationists, including young earth creationists and old earth creationists who believe that many of his arguments are invalid and, consequently, undermine their cause. Disagreements over how to respond to Hovind's claims have themselves contributed to acrimony between creationist organizations. The Australian and U.S. arms of Answers in Genesis (AiG) were critical of Hovind[63] after he had criticized[64] an AiG position document "Arguments we think creationists should NOT use".[65] In particular AiG criticized Hovind for "persistently us[ing] discredited or false arguments".[55]
    The U.S. arm of AiG, led by Ken Ham had an acrimonious split with its Australian parent in 2005. The Australian organization then split itself entirely off, now styling themselves as Creation Ministries International. Material critical of Hovind was no longer available on the U.S. Answers In Genesis website, whereas the Australian CMI website still chose to retain the critical material.[66] The CMI article written by Carl Wieland and Jonathan Sarfati stated that the claims made by Hovind are "fraudulent" and contain "mistakes in facts and logic which do the creationist cause no good."[63][67] CMI also criticized Hovind for using "fraudulent claims" made by Ron Wyatt in his claims.[63]
    Creationist astronomer Hugh Ross, of Reasons to Believe, debated Hovind on the age of the Earth during the John Ankerberg Show, televised nationally on the Inspiration Network in September through October 2000.[68][69] Ross said Hovind was "misrepresenting the field" of different sciences,[70] and Ross told Hovind: "Astronomers view the credibility of the 'Young Earth' as being much weaker than that for a flat earth."[71] Hovind and Ross previously debated in July 1999 on the Steve Brown Show.[72]
    Hovind has stated that carbon dating — a method used by scientists to estimate the age of various objects and events — is unreliable.[73] He has been criticized by Greg Neyman of Answers in Creation (an old Earth creationist group), who says that in Hovind's statements "Hovind goes on to show that he knows absolutely nothing about the science of Carbon Dating."[74] Neyman says that Hovind's claim that "scientists assume the amount of carbon-14 is constant" is wrong, and Neyman writes "there are many periods of decreasing C-14, which disproves his theory that the earth is young based on C-14 equilibrium."[74]
    luoya diay aning hovind oi.. hehehe..

  10. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by cebugdev View Post
    ang tinoud na taw na mo ingn na "idont care if its true or not" kay dli mangugat ug defend or produce ug tubag certain link pd.. Rember ni post pd ka ug link as a tubag?
    that signifies that you do care for this topic..
    I think you must have a different interpretation...

    when i say i dont care, i don't care if mo 2o ka nako... that is why i don't have the burden of proof... if mo post ko og link about sa topic, meaning interested ko because i find things that benefits my interest... logic....

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