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  1. #941

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Lisod sad huna-hunaon ang ideya sa reincarnation man gud, for example ha sa Thermodynamics na lang ta energy- downhill jud ang trend aning energy; massive quantity mu-degrade siya pawala- di ni perpetual. Apply nato sa Karma..kung perfect ka before first incarnation nimo..ambot kung maachieve nimo imo initial perfection since start from positive karma man ka pag-naa na kay diri sa kalibutan..tendency start from positive going negative (not conclusive though).

    ambot lang kung kaya nato mapildi ning mga temptation sa kalibutan- in our own will.
    wala jud lagi kaundangan ning reincarnation kung buot huna hunaon kay makasala gud ang tawo. everytime nga naa kay dautang gibuhat imo gud kuno nang bayran.

    lisod jud kaayo tuuhan oi. ug matod pa jud nila even demons daw pwede pa mu reincarnate para ma perfect...tsk tsk tsk!

  2. #942

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    matod pa jud nila even demons daw pwede pa mu reincarnate para ma perfect...tsk tsk tsk!
    Mao ba? lisod na nang mga demon mag bag-o para mubalik sila sa kamot sa Ginoo- in their own volition. Unless God wills it in His power na iya tagaan ug pardon ning mga reprobates in the process makes them new- like us tao in our salvation.

    Usa pa..unlike sa tao spiritual development starts from zero to up..meaning imperfect to perfect. Kining mga angel (fallen) downward ila nahitabo..perfection to imperfection.

    They are created with perfect vision of what God is...wala jud intawon excuse ilang pag-salikway sa Ginoo tsk..tsk. May pa ang tao kay naa reasons mahimong atheist o agnostic..pero demons wala jud- zero.

  3. #943

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homo_quaeritans View Post
    on divine union...maybe the souls will have the chance again in the next waking state of Brahma. this is not official I will answer this tomorrow. I have things to do.
    when can you say its OFFICIAL? when you answer tomorrow without saying "maybe"?

  4. #944

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    what Homo_quaeritans meant is this. Sa ako lang pagsabot ha.

    -before the world will end there is a possibility that all karmic debts will be paid.
    -if the world ends then reincarnation stops

  5. #945

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Lisod sad huna-hunaon ang ideya sa reincarnation man gud, for example ha sa Thermodynamics na lang ta energy- downhill jud ang trend aning energy; massive quantity mu-degrade siya pawala- di ni perpetual. Apply nato sa Karma..kung perfect ka before first incarnation nimo..ambot kung maachieve nimo imo initial perfection since start from positive karma man ka pag-naa na kay diri sa kalibutan..tendency start from positive going negative (not conclusive though).

    ambot lang kung kaya nato mapildi ning mga temptation sa kalibutan- in our own will.

    dili man siguro, ang matter will transform into a different energy.

  6. #946

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    wala jud lagi kaundangan ning reincarnation kung buot huna hunaon kay makasala gud ang tawo. everytime nga naa kay dautang gibuhat imo gud kuno nang bayran.

    lisod jud kaayo tuuhan oi. ug matod pa jud nila even demons daw pwede pa mu reincarnate para ma perfect...tsk tsk tsk!
    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Mao ba? lisod na nang mga demon mag bag-o para mubalik sila sa kamot sa Ginoo- in their own volition. Unless God wills it in His power na iya tagaan ug pardon ning mga reprobates in the process makes them new- like us tao in our salvation.

    Usa pa..unlike sa tao spiritual development starts from zero to up..meaning imperfect to perfect. Kining mga angel (fallen) downward ila nahitabo..perfection to imperfection.

    They are created with perfect vision of what God is...wala jud intawon excuse ilang pag-salikway sa Ginoo tsk..tsk. May pa ang tao kay naa reasons mahimong atheist o agnostic..pero demons wala jud- zero.
    ang inyong idea is entirely based sa bible. The law of reincarnation is based sa lain pod nga school of thought.

  7. #947

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    ang inyong idea is entirely based sa bible. The law of reincarnation is based sa lain pod nga school of thought.
    Malic were just protecting our business hehehe...malay naku kining demons diri sa Bible mi-sign up ug bag-ong contract dira sa Karma ug Reincarnation business..breach of contract na hehehe...

    Seriously, unsa man diay explanation anang demon dihas k&R nga belief? Honest ni for the sake of discussion...

  8. #948

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homo_quaeritans View Post
    what made you think they are fearless? only those who were promised heaven in Holy Wars both Christian crusaders and Muslim Mujahideens fought bravely.
    ang ako point if you believe nga moreincarnate ka ngano gud mahadlok mamatay? naa bitaw new life...unsay kawilihan if naay lain nga chance?
    naa pa, naa sad ni hell ang reincarnation belief..

  9. #949

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    Quote Originally Posted by Existanz View Post
    Malic were just protecting our business hehehe...malay naku kining demons diri sa Bible mi-sign up ug bag-ong contract dira sa Karma ug Reincarnation business..breach of contract na hehehe...

    Seriously, unsa man diay explanation anang demon dihas k&R nga belief? Honest ni for the sake of discussion...

    sa laing culture they view demons differently. These demons are not the mortal enemy of God.

  10. #950

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    ang inyong idea is entirely based sa bible. The law of reincarnation is based sa lain pod nga school of thought.
    Mao man daan na Malic, manukad gyud ang tao gikan sa iyang existing nga belief para siya makapangutana sa lain belief. Not necessarily para pildihon ang lain tinuuhan (sa ako lang ha)...ikaw before ka nag Theosopist asa man ka gikang belief? actually what we are doing putting forward our ideas and belief not only to give our side but also to let others be critical about it...kay kung kita lang sa atong kaugalingon mag-analyze kung tama ta lisod kay inherent sa atoa tao nga maging bias sa ato belief. Bihira kaayo nato makita atong kaugalingong sayop o naay shortcomings sa panglantaw.

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