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    Di na ko mo botar anang mga Garcia, bisag unsa pay ilang daganan. Bahala nag ingnon ko sa mga Garcia loyalits diri nga one vote ra bitaw ko. Sige lang, one vote ra bitaw.Tagam ko abi naku mga maayo karon nga nagka dugay ug nagka daghan na sila sa gahum, nagka way ayo man nuon. Naay governor Gwen, usik2x lang kwarta sa probinsya. palit ug yuta nga naa ilawom sa dagat.Gi gamyan mo anang 98.9 million? Wa siya kuyafii? Ni bayad nga wa pa dihang titulo sa yuta. Unsaaaa? Tarong na?Ayaw intawn ninyog buanga ang mga tawo woi.

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    Tua ron sya sa South Korea mosuroy kay motan-aw lang sya sa Coalfired Power plant sa Kepko sige lang usik-usik sa kwarta sa province. Siya ra man ang Governor sa Cebu nga nagsige ug suroy sa laing lugar wala mana mag ingana ang nangagi mga governor sa Cebu kaniadto. Tan-aw sya sa power plant nga tua sa Korea pero wala katan-aw sa iyang gipalit nga yuta sa Naga nga naa sa ilawom sa dagat.

  3. #373

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    Quote Originally Posted by la_bestida View Post
    Giddyboy: Pwede kung mo ingon ka og OSMEŅA, pwde i.specific lang!!!!

    I admit Osmeņa ko!!!! Pag hinay2x diha og tabi. Kay dili tanan Osmeņa pariha!
    I think anybody who reads my posts can figure out which Osmena I'm talking about. doesn't need an Einstein to figure it out.

    so now u feel what it is like by generalizing people, di ba? especially generalizing a family like your Osmena. but don't get me wrong, i didn't.

    sa tinuod gani, if ever i come across pud nga naay mag generalize pud sa mga Osmena, mo defend pud ko. why? Don Sergio is not Tomas. Georgia is not Tomas. Lito O is not Tomas.

    the same breadth goes to the Garcias. Pablo is not Gwen. Winston is not Gwen. Sonny G. is not Gwen. etc...

    the same breadth goes to the Aquinos. Noynoy is not Cory or Ninoy, or even Kris.

    Quote Originally Posted by eslowrak View Post
    Tua ron sya sa South Korea mosuroy kay motan-aw lang sya sa Coalfired Power plant sa Kepko sige lang usik-usik sa kwarta sa province.
    a matter of your own opinion but does not mean it is factual. going on official business trip is not usik2x. try google those trips of hers to SoKor, Russia, and even Israel. she even went w/ Arroyo on one of those trips.

    Quote Originally Posted by eslowrak View Post
    Siya ra man ang Governor sa Cebu nga nagsige ug suroy sa laing lugar wala mana mag ingana ang nangagi mga governor sa Cebu kaniadto.
    so what? the question is, were her official trips not justifiable, important and significant? were those trips not beneficial to Cebu? coz if we follow ur logic, we can also say "c Ramos raman ang Presidente nga nagcge ug suroy sa laing lugar wala mana mag ing ana ang nangagi mga Presidente..."

    it just doesn't follow. if past governors don't do much business trips abroad to promote Cebu, invite investors, and gain diplomatic ties w/ other foreign cities, it does not mean Gwen should also follow suit.

    don't get me wrong, I am actually defending the reason why there are official business trips by gov't officials abroad and the nature of those trips...

    People, Cebu is now the 4th in the top list of island destinations in the world, accdg to an int'l magazine. We are next to Maldives, Bali, and Phuket. And we are the only island in the entire Philippine archipelago that made it to the list. so why stop only there?

    Quote Originally Posted by eslowrak View Post
    Tan-aw sya sa power plant nga tua sa Korea pero wala katan-aw sa iyang gipalit nga yuta sa Naga nga naa sa ilawom sa dagat.
    u may have a point. i somehow agree. but u r comparing apples to oranges...
    Last edited by giddyboy; 09-11-2009 at 10:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy View Post
    I think anybody who reads my posts can figure out which Osmena I'm talking about. doesn't need an Einstein to figure it out.
    Neither does it take an Einstein to figure out that you are connected to the Garcias, yet you continue to deny it. That must mean you think everyone here is an idiot, but in reality you are the dumbest one of all for thinking you could fool anyone here. So far, everyone is aghast in disbelief at your continued protestations of innocence. Let's face it, you have an unnatural obsession with defending the Garcias that rubs everyone the wrong way, only because you insist on pretending you are a "neutral party". No you ^&*ing aren't so stop bullshitting us.


    so now u feel what it is like by generalizing people, di ba? especially generalizing a family like your Osmena. but don't get me wrong, i didn't.
    It's not often you can generalize about an entire family but the Garcias are notorious for their arrogance, pigheadedness and incompetence. Maybe it sometimes IS in the blood, as we all know that intelligence is mostly inherited and perhaps evil and greed are as well. Or you could chalk it up to bad upbringing as assholeness in politics and government tend to run in families.



    sa tinuod gani, if ever i come across pud nga naay mag generalize pud sa mga Osmena, mo defend pud ko. why? Don Sergio is not Tomas. Georgia is not Tomas. Lito O is not Tomas.
    Yeah right, you have never defended them and you are only now paying lipservice to defense in a vile attempt to trick people into believing once again your "I'm a neutral party" lies.

    the same breadth goes to the Garcias. Pablo is not Gwen. Winston is not Gwen. Sonny G. is not Gwen. etc...
    You defend them ALL THE DAMNED TIME, because you are connected to them. It's that simple. If you just went out and admitted the truth people would be less pissed off at you and would respect your opinions a little more. As things stand, nobody believes you firstly because nobody likes the Garcias and secondly because you are a very terrible, bad liar.
    the same breadth goes to the Aquinos. Noynoy is not Cory or Ninoy, or even Kris.
    Oh shut up, that has nothing to do with this thread and Noynoy is likely going to be as raft with inaction as his mother was.


    a matter of your own opinion but does not mean it is factual. going on official business trip is not usik2x. try google those trips of hers to SoKor, Russia, and even Israel. she even went w/ Arroyo on one of those trips.
    OH YOU MEAN LIKE "NOBODY CAN DENY THEY HAVE DONE SOME GOOD THINGS" RIGHT? "Good things" being factual as opposed to an OPINION?!? Give me a break, good grief!

    so what? the question is, were her official trips not justifiable, important and significant? were those trips not beneficial to Cebu? coz if we follow ur logic, we can also say "c Ramos raman ang Presidente nga nagcge ug suroy sa laing lugar wala mana mag ing ana ang nangagi mga Presidente..."
    Really and can you substantiate any of your OPINIONS as to this particular trip being beneficial to the country in any way? The Koreans started coming here way before that stupid &*( thought about flying to Korea.

    it just doesn't follow. if past governors don't do much business trips abroad to promote Cebu, invite investors, and gain diplomatic ties w/ other foreign cities, it does not mean Gwen should also follow suit.
    If past governors didn't do business trips abroad to promote Cebu it's because they have the &*9ing intelligence to know that that's the job of the tourism secretary, not the Governor. If you were smarter you wouldn't need me to point out the obvious, Mr. Opinion.

    don't get me wrong, I am actually defending the reason why there are official business trips by gov't officials abroad and the nature of those trips...
    ROLLSEYES. NO. You are defending the reason, because it incidentally defends the Garcias. Duh.

    People, Cebu is now the 4th in the top list of island destinations in the world, accdg to an int'l magazine. We are next to Maldives, Bali, and Phuket. And we are the only island in the entire Philippine archipelago that made it to the list. so why stop only there?
    The Garcias have nothing to do with that though. The foreigners are certainly not coming here so they can attend Gwen's Kabayo Festival. They come here to go sunbathing at Shangri-la.


    u may have a point. i somehow agree. but u r comparing apples to oranges...
    But you have no point at all, except to further impress people with your laughable denials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy View Post
    People, Cebu is now the 4th in the top list of island destinations in the world, accdg to an int'l magazine. We are next to Maldives, Bali, and Phuket. And we are the only island in the entire Philippine archipelago that made it to the list. so why stop only there?


    Because the Marcoses & the Osmenas, placed us there. Are you trying to imply that this is one of Gwen's overnight initiatives? It took years to put Cebu on the worldwide map.

    It was because of the Fonaciers; from Cebu Plaza, Tambuli, Cebu, Argao & Bohol Beach Clubs that Cebu was known as an Island in the Pacific and they came to the Philippines. They almost didn't know that Cebu was in the Philippines.

    Heck, even the Fonaciers used to own Sun Star Daily which is now owned by your boss. The genius behind Sun Star's readership can be traced back to the Fonaciers gi-mana na lang na sa mga Garcias because they were politically at the right place at the right time.

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    notice sunstar... its full of errors on its reports and grammar

  7. #377

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    sakto. mao pud na'y na observe nako. maayo ang cdn pagkasuwat.

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    having some cash in the bank does not mean wala cla nag invest ug projects. did u not even read the accomplishment report I posted earlier? naa did2 tanan imong gipangita...---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    mao rato? sa kinsi ka tuig? pagka traditional politician gyud kaayo ug dating imong garcia komisyoner! ka ordinaryo ra ato imong g post nga accomplishment nya proud naka ato? PASTILAN! maski among barangay kapitan kabuhat anang nabuhat sa imong garcia. naa tanang pabor presidente sa pinas, papa ug igsoon kong-kongressman nya napay igsoon nga STAR DANCER sa prisuhan nya kana ra? syalan.
    masdaku paman ilang o inyong na kwarta sa among gibayad nga buhis kaysa nabuhat aning imong garcia. ana man gyud nang ordinaryo ra kaayo nga politiko basta wlay dagkung project pakita dayon sa lista sa ginagmay kaayo nga nabuhat.

    it even said they have implemented improvement works on the rest of the 16 district hospitals all over the province!
    Ordinary ug compulsory man gyud ni intawn oi.. picture2x rani kutob oi kay sa probinsya sa akong mama way gamit ang ospital, way tambal kong naa man gani "ingat" ra! dagan lang japon syudad nya wla pay ambulansya. mao ni inyong g ingon nga riches province in the philippines?

    and if im not mistaken, people troop to VSMCC than CCMC. sa CCMC, ang kamatyonon matiwasan ug kamatay!
    maayo nalang naay mo pirma sa death cert.. joke! o unya kay ngano VSMCC probinsya na? bagya ka.?

    yes, Lito O have made his accomplishments during his time, but we cannot also deny the accomplishments Gwen made during her time.
    sa ako nang gi ingon mas daku pa si gwen nakuha sa goberno kaysa sa iyang nabuhat. o in other words mas DAGKU PA IYANG ANOMALYA kaysa iyang tarung (kong naa man gani) nga project.

    besides, if Lito O was sooo successful as governor during his time, why did it take only now to construct provincial hospitals?
    yes! he is VERY SUCCESSFUL! awa hangtud karon nag pupu ang kapitol sa iyang gibuhat sauna. y he did not build a ospital? i dont know, pero 1 term lang cya nya dili pa ingon ana ka datu ang probinsya, remember mao pay pag stable sa pinas. pero e compare nmo ang nabuhat ni litoO ug ang nabuhat sa imong ginansya aw garcia diay apil na kang sleeping gobernor pabling, pwerting dakua sa disperensya! mas ang magbubuhis nga sugbuanon pay nakatabang sa mga garcia labi na economically kaysa the other way around, nga mao gyud unta ba dapat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    Neither does it take an Einstein to figure out that you are connected to the Garcias, yet you continue to deny it. That must mean you think everyone here is an idiot, but in reality you are the dumbest one of all for thinking you could fool anyone here. So far, everyone is aghast in disbelief at your continued protestations of innocence. Let's face it, you have an unnatural obsession with defending the Garcias that rubs everyone the wrong way, only because you insist on pretending you are a "neutral party". No you ^&*ing aren't so stop bullshitting us.
    how will it take to prove to you that I am not in any way connected to the Garcias? do I need to post my family name and personal and professional background here?

    since when can a person become an obsessed Garcia fan when all I did was provide important facts to dispel misconceptions and wrong perceptions?

    since when can a person become an obsessed Garcia fan when all I did was make fair arguments?

    you also think everyone here is an idiot, but in reality you are the dumbest one of all for thinking you could fool anyone here. I am aghast in disbelief at your continued malicious innuendos and contrived criticisms here. don't put it on me w/ ur allegations that I rub people here the wrong way. It is the other way around. People like u rub people here the wrong way!

    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    It's not often you can generalize about an entire family but the Garcias are notorious for their arrogance, pigheadedness and incompetence. Maybe it sometimes IS in the blood, as we all know that intelligence is mostly inherited and perhaps evil and greed are as well. Or you could chalk it up to bad upbringing as assholeness in politics and government tend to run in families.
    Notorious for their arrogance? which Garcia exactly & in what way? pigheadedness? who exactly & in what way? incompetence? who exactly & in what way? u see, I'm not fond of cynical motherhood statements u know.

    Just because Gwen is the only person on earth that can stand against an arrogant Tomas? Just because she can sue a porn star or the powerful Big 3? you see the arrogance of Gwen but not the arrogance of Tomas? how blind can u get?

    u see, u cannot just blurt out all those criticisms just because you feel like it. You have to provide some proof for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    Yeah right, you have never defended them and you are only now paying lipservice to defense in a vile attempt to trick people into believing once again your "I'm a neutral party" lies.
    that's because you are already blinded by your ego and pride due to poor arguments that's why it hurts you. your ad hominem arguments proves that.

    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    You defend them ALL THE DAMNED TIME, because you are connected to them. It's that simple. If you just went out and admitted the truth people would be less pissed off at you and would respect your opinions a little more. As things stand, nobody believes you firstly because nobody likes the Garcias and secondly because you are a very terrible, bad liar.
    let's be clear here. I can only provide verifiable facts but not the truth. coz the truth can only come from those people you maligned and ridiculed.

    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    Oh shut up, that has nothing to do with this thread and Noynoy is likely going to be as raft with inaction as his mother was.
    I am only making an analogy. and making a point. if u can't see it, problema nana nimo.

    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    OH YOU MEAN LIKE "NOBODY CAN DENY THEY HAVE DONE SOME GOOD THINGS" RIGHT? "Good things" being factual as opposed to an OPINION?!? Give me a break, good grief!

    Really and can you substantiate any of your OPINIONS as to this particular trip being beneficial to the country in any way? The Koreans started coming here way before that stupid &*( thought about flying to Korea.
    It doesn't even need explaining why those trips should be beneficial to Cebu. if two places gani mag diplomatic and economic ties i.e. Russia and Cebu, leaders of these two places have to meet. it even sometimes need a President to meet them.

    so again, why put malice into those trips? I just can't understand why it should be wrong...

    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    If past governors didn't do business trips abroad to promote Cebu it's because they have the &*9ing intelligence to know that that's the job of the tourism secretary, not the Governor. If you were smarter you wouldn't need me to point out the obvious, Mr. Opinion.
    no, u got the wrong logic there. Tourism secretary for tourism, yes. but if you say promote Cebu for tourism and investments, it will be both tourism sec and governor. if u were smarter, why can't u even see the obvious?

    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    ROLLSEYES. NO. You are defending the reason, because it incidentally defends the Garcias. Duh.
    incidentally yes. no denying that.

    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    The Garcias have nothing to do with that though. The foreigners are certainly not coming here so they can attend Gwen's Kabayo Festival. They come here to go sunbathing at Shangri-la.
    I didn't say all the Garcias have anything to do w/ Cebu 4th on the list. I say Gwen can also be credited why Cebu is 4th on the list. she is the governor for cryin out loud! and I don't mean she is the only one to be credited here. In fact, even Cebu City can also be credited for that. all of us Cebuanos should be credited for that.

    coz if we take your logic, then even Lito O can't be credited for Cebu's success during his time.

    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    But you have no point at all, except to further impress people with your laughable denials.
    i have no point? well, here's my point: what is real is that some people just criticize and criticize without really knowing first what they are saying, or if their criticisms are justifiable to be even called a good criticism. well, what could get more laughable than that?

    u see, I'm just not fond of cynical motherhood statements...
    Last edited by giddyboy; 09-12-2009 at 08:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    Because the Marcoses & the Osmenas, placed us there. Are you trying to imply that this is one of Gwen's overnight initiatives? It took years to put Cebu on the worldwide map.
    no, i am not trying to imply that. how else can we credit Cebu's success diay? exclude Gwen but only include all Cebuanos except Gwen? toinks!

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    It was because of the Fonaciers; from Cebu Plaza, Tambuli, Cebu, Argao & Bohol Beach Clubs that Cebu was known as an Island in the Pacific and they came to the Philippines. They almost didn't know that Cebu was in the Philippines.
    no, no, no. it is not only the Fonaciers or any other elites who made Cebu known to the world. It is also because of ordinary (even the lowly) Cebuanos.

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    Heck, even the Fonaciers used to own Sun Star Daily which is now owned by your boss. The genius behind Sun Star's readership can be traced back to the Fonaciers gi-mana na lang na sa mga Garcias because they were politically at the right place at the right time.
    was it during Fonacier's ownership that Sun.Star became wide in readership, branching out to other places, and garnering many media awards? I don't think so. what is genius instead is that one turned a mediocre company into one of the leading local newspapers in the country...that is a fact, and not an opinion.

    nya basin moingon nasab ka nga ni defend or nanghambog ko sa sun.star ha. tinuod baya na. and don't get me wrong again here. I am not implying that sun.star is the only good newspaper here. in fact, CDN is also a good newspaper. Freeman too.
    Last edited by giddyboy; 09-12-2009 at 08:49 PM.

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