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  1. #11521

    Quote Originally Posted by dknorth57 View Post
    A lot of people are turned off to religion, but have a great respect for Jesus Christ, the person. Church organizations can become self focused and survival oriented. But Jesus Christ was the most non-self focused person to ever live. He gave time and His life to walking the streets and helping the needy and healing hearts and bodies. He finally gave His own life to save people from the damage of sin and selfishness, and to bring us back into a personal relationship with God by removing the sin barrier.

    If we could only stop focusing on the church organizations and power structures and start focusing on the person of Jesus Christ, we could find a freedom to live with God that doesn't require buildings and formulas and rituals. The garden of Eden was perfect and had no religion. It just had God.
    Only if we were like Jesus, there wouldn't have been a need for religion at all.

  2. #11522
    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose View Post
    Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.
    Insult?

    "but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion."
    --- huh... define unsay GOod nmo b! para ma check nato ang LEVEL sa GOODNESS imo gi mean. For all i know brad, I don't know what is good or bad in your eyes... You don't have the level of morality to speak of Goodness or wickedness so you fail...

    what works and what don't... raman kutob dba? and you cal this good/bad...

    and wat da... you speak for the REST now.. hahaha! nub detected.

    /boring

  3. #11523
    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose View Post
    Only if we were like Jesus, there wouldn't have been a need for religion at all.
    Who told we you need a religion? pag chure oi... kabalu baka ingon cya na no RELIGION will save you... pagarpar napod.. hahaha!

  4. #11524
    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose View Post
    Because not all human creations serve to benefit mankind. And it just so happen that religion is one of them.
    well it serves billions everyday and you dont call it benefit? very low IQ.

  5. #11525
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Insult?

    "but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion."
    --- huh... define unsay GOod nmo b! para ma check nato ang LEVEL sa GOODNESS imo gi mean. For all i know brad, I don't know what is good or bad in your eyes... You don't have the level of morality to speak of Goodness or wickedness so you fail...
    You figure that out kay mas moral pa man ka nako

    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    what works and what don't... raman kutob dba? and you cal this good/bad...
    and wat da... you speak for the REST now.. hahaha! nub detected.
    /boring
    boring indeed...isn't it what religion is all about?

  6. #11526
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    well it serves billions everyday and you dont call it benefit? very low IQ.
    my low IQ tells me that religion serves billions in order to earn the service of its patrons -- quid pro quo -- there goes my money!

  7. #11527
    Quote Originally Posted by cromagnon View Post
    hehe from god delusion.

    who killed an abortionist in the name of god. bad bad bad.
    good point, sir.

  8. #11528
    Quote Originally Posted by noister View Post
    @rcruman
    bro, naa jud na sa Bible. actually, mao jud na ang pinaka importante jud. that we should know when we die we go to heaven. and clear kaayo ge butang sa bible na.
    and bisan buhi pa ta, makabalo ta kung mamatay ta asa ta padulong... klaro kaayo ge ingon sa (not sa Pastor, but BIBLE jud.) 1 John 5:13 "...believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life..."
    “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.” Romans 3:10
    “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.” Romans 3:23
    The penalty for sin is DEATH, separation from God in the lake of FIRE.
    “Wherefore, as by one man (Adam) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.” Romans 5:12
    Jesus loves you and He died to pay the price for your sins.
    “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him (trusting only in Jesus) should not perish but have everlasting life.” John 3:16
    “Who His own self bare our sins in His own body on the tree.” I Peter 2:24
    Jesus wants you to be saved from the penalty of sin RIGHT NOW.
    Repent - “God ... now commandeth all men everywhere to repent.” Acts 17:30, 3:19
    Receive the gift of your salvation - Jesus Christ. John 1:12
    "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans 10:13
    “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him.” Revelation 3:20
    “Today if ye will hear His voice, harden not your hearts.” Hebrews 4:7
    “He (Jesus) came unto His own, and His own received Him not. But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name.” John 1:11-12
    If you believe these Scriptures, and see your need to receive the free gift of eternal life, pray now with a sincere heart saying-
    “Dear Lord Jesus:
    I know that I am a sinner and I deserve to go to hell, but I believe that you love me; you died for me, and rose from the dead for me! I believe and trust in you, that your blood shed on the cross was the full payment for all my sins. I am right now trusting you, Lord Jesus, and you alone for the forgiveness of all my sins and to take me to heaven. Please change my life. Thank you for saving my soul. AMEN!”
    so meaning no need to work?
    because you've selected verse that fits to your wants.

    Do you know the meaning of Believe in the bible?

    here read this first:
    30As he spake these words, many believed on him.
    31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
    32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
    John 8:30-32

    have your pastor read you about these verses?

    10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
    Ephesians 2:10

    20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
    Matthew 28:20

    16They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
    Titus 1:16

    12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    Revelations 20:12

    3For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
    1 John 5:3

    Bro the bible is not a selection type, but take it in context.

    Peace!

  9. #11529
    imagine na lang ko ani.

  10. #11530
    Quote Originally Posted by brownprose View Post
    my low IQ tells me that religion serves billions in order to earn the service of its patrons -- quid pro quo -- there goes my money!
    pila ra diay imong IQ, mr.brown? hehehe.

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