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    it's all in the wiring/cabling between the customer and provider. you can have all the best equipment at both ends but then the wiring in between is crappy with tons of signal loss, then you won't have an efficient/reliable connection.
    and with variables like old neighborhoods with old cabling or areas with high subscriber density sharing the same node, can all affect your bandwidth. some areas are better than others, some aren't. it's all in the luck of the draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vern View Post
    Sure they are facts, but like I have said before, facts taken out of context and blaming the technology for sub-par performance when it really is the fault of the company's deployment and internal network is not fact.



    Yes it is fact that cable internet is shared ... but that fact is not why he is getting slow connections which is what he implies with his statement and which is what you imply with your statements. I have a 20mbit cable connection ... and I ALWAYS get that bandwidth nevermind the fact that it's shared. It is the Philippine ISP's implementation of cable that gives cable a bad name while most of the world, cable is far and away the best way to get high speed reliable connections to your home especially in areas with DOCSIS 3.0.
    AGAIN, for the nth time... I never talked about cable internet in general but only for Sky's case. You always get reliable cable internet because you're in a country that's prolly using wideband cable already, which is not the case for Sky so you can't compare both. If you look at my post, I specifically stated that cable internet becomes area sensitive ONLY when it is not wideband.

    When Softtouch said he was only getting 500 out of 2mb, this is again because of area sensitivity (the RF carrier power really wasn't enough to reach his house) and this wouldn't be an issue with wideband cable. Plus the fact that it's a shared medium becomes a factor ONLY because it is not wideband.

    You can't blame the implementation either, prolly because that's what they could only do at the moment with the existing infra. Even in the states, there was a time when DSL was better than cable because cable wasn't wideband yet. And if you're suggesting that sky should go wideband, then that's a diff subject already...

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    Because we are poor, shall we be vicious? vern's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CentOS View Post
    AGAIN, for the nth time... I never talked about cable internet in general but only for Sky's case. You always get reliable cable internet because you're in a country that's prolly using wideband cable already, which is not the case for Sky so you can't compare both. If you look at my post, I specifically stated that cable internet becomes area sensitive ONLY when it is not wideband.

    When Softtouch said he was only getting 500 out of 2mb, this is again because of area sensitivity (the RF carrier power really wasn't enough to reach his house) and this wouldn't be an issue with wideband cable. Plus the fact that it's a shared medium becomes a factor ONLY because it is not wideband.

    You can't blame the implementation either, prolly because that's what they could only do at the moment with the existing infra. Even in the states, there was a time when DSL was better than cable because cable wasn't wideband yet. And if you're suggesting that sky should go wideband, then that's a diff subject already...

    Again, for the nth time, I simply stated that people imply that somehow cable is not "as good" as DSL or other technologies when the FACT is ... the cable companies there are to blame for that image. That supposed fact has been implied in this thread many times. How can you say that you can't blame infrastructure? Are you giving these companies who advertise 2MB!!!! ... and not give you that bandwidth ... an excuse? They have no excuse. If they want to advertise bandwidth ... they should deliver it. You are only giving me reasons of why they can't deliver it.

    @softtouch ... how much were you paying for your supposed 2MB connection? You seem to not have gotten that speed ... did you get your money back? Did they give you an option to keep the connection at a reduced price? I'm assuming no in all cases.

    No wonder people get reamed by their providers ... because the consumers themselves are making the excuses for them.

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    zpdee a crap, 1st month i experience seldom downtime like 30 mins, after 1 month it shows it true color the downtime takes longer in both morning and afternoon.,,,and gaming online is Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vern View Post
    Again, for the nth time, I simply stated that people imply that somehow cable is not "as good" as DSL or other technologies when the FACT is ... the cable companies there are to blame for that image. That supposed fact has been implied in this thread many times. How can you say that you can't blame infrastructure? Are you giving these companies who advertise 2MB!!!! ... and not give you that bandwidth ... an excuse? They have no excuse. If they want to advertise bandwidth ... they should deliver it. You are only giving me reasons of why they can't deliver it.

    @softtouch ... how much were you paying for your supposed 2MB connection? You seem to not have gotten that speed ... did you get your money back? Did they give you an option to keep the connection at a reduced price? I'm assuming no in all cases.

    No wonder people get reamed by their providers ... because the consumers themselves are making the excuses for them.
    Give me a post on this thread wherein someone said DSL is better than Cable Technology.

    "Cable internet is very dependent on the area and how much power they could provide to that area, unlike your typical DSL na patas ra tanan (unless that cable company is using pure fiber.. which SkyCable isn't). There are areas na ok ang signal, and there are some na bati sad gyud. And even when you have ample power sa inyong end, it would still flactuate from time to time.. so kinahanglan na sila mag cge of reset sa ilang UBR's everytime this happens... hassle kaayo ng ilang cable internet. "

    All those highlighted items obviously pertained to Sky and not cable technology in general!

    Did I ever state that what Sky was doing was right? I even said their service sucked because of being area sensitive. I blamed sky and not cable technology in general. Did I say i didn't blame infra? Look at what I posted, I said that the RF power issue is because of their current infra... did you see that post? The fact that they are not wideband is because of their current infra. I only stated that if you were to suggest that they should change infra, then that becomes a diff subject alltogether. What we are talking about is what they currently have, and not what they should be doing.

    The way companies advertise bandwidth in the Philippines is a diff story too, which doesn't concern cable nor DSL. In most countries i've been to, they will give you guaranteed bandwidth. In the phils however, they will use words like "Up to.." or "As much as.." because technically, they are only bursting, and most of them don't even implement CIR's. They tell you that's because it's shared blah blah, and when you want to be guaranteed, they'll offered you something more expensive and call it "premium" connection.. but then again, this is a diff subject.

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    skycable is changing zpdee into skybroadband minimum new speed will be 1mbps for non skycable subscribers and 2mbps for skycable subscribers.

    cable internet is GENERALLY more reliable than DSL. That does mean that ZPDee is better than Globe or PLDT DSL for that matter. It depends on many things. For one, your cabling at home. Another could be, how many illegal tapping there are in your neighborhood. I am going to go for their free demo with ZPDEE but I think it should be a so-so service. I would assume a 1mbps boast would top-out at 500kbps. Same with PLDT and Globe. The only advantage with Cable is that its easier to move from room to room. DSL is tricky because the phone line outputs have to be filtered by the DSL filter before going into handsets. A Cable modem connects to any clear signal terminal. This can be even helped out by a Signal amplifier.

    Signal amplifiers to work. Depends on the model but the one I got from Richworld in downtown worked. They boasted a 1=30 output and it worked like a gem. My old line only got me as far as bloomberg which was almost like watching a ghost. Now, I have all channels and clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teban2006 View Post
    zpdee a crap, 1st month i experience seldom downtime like 30 mins, after 1 month it shows it true color the downtime takes longer in both morning and afternoon.,,,and gaming online is Hell.
    asa ka dapit na area bro?

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    is it possible for a cable broadband to be, uhm, "wifi-ed"?

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    yes, you need to connect the modem to a wifi router. (get a wireless n router for best range)

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