Cyber Bullying- watch out guys!

[godwhacker]

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If we have applicable laws in our country about this just be careful guys...this could happen here. It would only take a smart lawyer to nail one.


Canadian model unmasks blog tormentor

By Chris Lefkow
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 09:31:00 08/20/2009

Filed Under: Internet, blogging, Crime and Law and Justice, Crime

WASHINGTON – A Canadian model has won a landmark case in a New York court after Google was forced to disclose the online identity of a blogger who anonymously posted derogatory comments about the Vogue covergirl.

Justice Joan Madden of the New York State Supreme Court ordered the Web giant on Monday to hand over identifying information about the person who created the anonymous blog a year ago using Google's Blogger.com program.

The ruling came after Liskula Cohen, 36, filed suit in a bid to unmask the identify of her tormentor, who posted suggestive photographs of Cohen on the blog and described her as a "ho" and a "psychotic, lying, whoring... skank."

The blog was removed in March.

But Cohen, who has appeared on runways for top designers around the world and on the covers of numerous fashion magazines, was determined to pursue the case to learn the identity of the blogger.

"If somebody attacks somebody on the street you're not going to let it go," she told ABC's "Good Morning America" in an exclusive interview on Wednesday. "If somebody attacks you personally you're not going to let it go.

"Why should I just ignore it? I couldn't find one reason to ignore it," Cohen said. "So I didn't."

Following Madden's ruling, Google turned over the email address and computer IP address of the person behind the blog and that allowed Cohen to immediately figure out who it was.

She told ABC she was relieved to discover that the person who created the blog -- a woman whom she declined to identify -- was not someone close to her.

"She's an irrelevant person in my life," Cohen said. "She's just somebody that, whenever I would go out to a restaurant, to a party in New York City, she was just that girl that was always there."

Cohen said she immediately called the woman on the telephone and told her: "I just want you to know that if I've ever done anything to you to actually deserve this then I'm really very sorry.

"I said, 'I forgive you, it doesn't matter any more.'"

Cohen's lawyer, Steven Wagner, told ABC the case was "sending out a message that the Internet is no longer a safe harbor for defamatory language.

"I don't know if it'll change the Internet," he said. "It'll change the way some people act on the Internet."

Google said that while the company does not tolerate "cyber bullying" it is also respectful of privacy.

"We sympathize with anyone who may be the victim of cyber bullying," Andrew Pederson, a Google spokesman, said in an email statement to AFP.

"We also take great care to respect privacy concerns and will only provide information about a user in response to a subpoena or other court order," he said.

"If content is found by a court to be defamatory, we will of course remove it immediately," Pederson added.

[LytSlpr]

if anybody does that to any forumer here, that would be truly pathetic.

public figures SHOULD NOT believe in libel since words have no proof, how malicious they may be.

[godwhacker]

if anybody does that to any forumer here, that would be truly pathetic.

public figures SHOULD NOT believe in libel since words have no proof, how malicious they may be.

The model was a public figure yet the court sided with her.

[LytSlpr]

2 questions:

does the philippines have the legislation? if yes, do they have the technology? if yes, then we might as well apply the CYA rule, change emails used for registration, hide IP our address and/or use different internet or cyber cafes to post.

in Istorya.Net's case, they should file a collective lawsuit. it will be just like going after people using torrent sites or peer 2 peer sharing, it is a futile attempt.

what's the difference in ranting here and ranting on the streets?

I don't know who these people are intimidating, the forumers or the forum owners.

If the people who I think are behind these, then that only goes to show they are threatened.

Once again, truly pathetic!

[lestat1116]

haha daghan kaayo mga bully dri sa istorya.

[fingolfin]

if anybody does that to any forumer here, that would be truly pathetic.

public figures SHOULD NOT believe in libel since words have no proof, how malicious they may be.

... actually, there was one, she posted it on Relationship Board, the attacker stated the complete name and made some malicious statements. I deleted that post.

[godwhacker]

2 questions:

does the philippines have the legislation?

I'm not a lawyer but there could be. I leave it to the law experts here.

if yes, do they have the technology?

The current technology as proven in the case of the model can also do. It may require more of the technological advances if one is posting in cafe. But it is not impossible. Once authorities know the origin of the IP address they can apply for a court sanction to install logging software to the target. Yes, it can be done.

if yes, then we might as well apply the CYA rule, change emails used for registration, hide IP our address and/or use different internet or cyber cafes to post.

This may be possible but once there is a court order to compel the hosting site, way mahimo ang hosting site but to cooperate like the case of Google. The only way probably is to stop posting and requesti istorya.net to delete all the previous post ug maipit na dyud.

in Istorya.Net's case, they should file a collective lawsuit. it will be just like going after people using torrent sites or peer 2 peer sharing, it is a futile attempt.

collective of whom? as i've said it only takes a smart lawyer to nail one. Whoever is that "one" malas nalang niya ug siya mamahimong ehemplo. And by the way, cyber bullying and P2P for piracy, though using the same internet technology, are two different things.

what's the difference in ranting here and ranting on the streets?

Obvious. Street rantings are verbal and not documented -in a few seconds the guy who did the rants cannot remember anymore what he said -hupas sa hangin.
Internet forum is a legal document by itself. Mao bitaw nga puede i subpoena sa korte ang hosting site, again, in the case of Google.

I don't know who these people are intimidating, the forumers or the forum owners.

It will be the forum owners of course who will divulge everything to the court once they are involved in a lawsuit. Dali ra man gud bro... take for example si Pedro dunay reklamo kay si Juan ni daut niya sa istorya...hire siya ug lawyer, naabot sa korte, the court will subpoena istorya.net...as can be seen in Firefox,


Hostname www.istorya.net ISP Unknown
Country United States Country Code US (USA)
City Irvine Region California
IP Address 216.34.250.11 Postal Code 92602
Flag US Latitude 33.7423 Longitude -117.7684
Local time* 20 Aug 2009 21:06

Note that istorya.net is also hosted in the USA, the New York landmark decision is a precedent and could apply to istorya.net. I maybe wrong.

so ma identify dayon ang hosting site and because of a court order, will start digging the details of Juan. Ipasa sa NBI, NBI starts surviellance as sanctioned by the courts. In a few weeks, Voila sakspan ang identity ni Juan. Of course moatubang siya sa korte.

If the people who I think are behind these, then that only goes to show they are threatened.

Once again, truly pathetic!

Pathetic dyud bitaw bro. But we must remember that no matter how right are our accusations with the "public figures" as what you said, they also have their own reputation which is at stake. And it is their basic right to protect their reputation as guarranteed in our constitution.

[godwhacker]

haha daghan kaayo mga bully dri sa istorya.

Ok bro kay naka alinggat ka. It seems that when the day comes aggrieved "public figures" start legal action against these bullies, ubay ubay dyud siguro ang kandidato dire.

[LytSlpr]

i got all your points above but even it is legally possible, it is still not technically possible.

bisan ma-trace pa ang IP ug mo gamit pa ug key logger pero kung ang user mo gamit ug public terminal and different terminals, di gihapon feasible.

and again, kung mosukol sa court ang ilang gukdon mag lisod sila, dugay pa ang process and it will only be a slap on the wrist and it is not worth it. if that will happen to somebody that has enough resources (financial, political & legal connections), that somebody will see to it that the case will have more media mileage than the Hayden Kho-Katrina Halili tapes and Gucci Gang issues combined so that the ENTIRE COUNTRY and even their CO-POLITICIANS WILL LAUGH AT THEM and thereby they will be the ones who will really make it blow out of proportion.

unya bisan mahimo pa ug precedent, unsa na lang to ang mga post sa mga Ouano ug Radaza diri nga mas hugaw pa? Secondly, ang mga post against sa mga Garcias diri are not libelous in nature. It is more of questions and insinuations. questions about CICC, the Balili land deal, the SRP-FLI deal, etc. etc.

so okay lang mangawat ning mga tawhana, unya di na lang mo-tingog ang mga tawo or bisan sulti sa ilang opinion. WHERE IS THE BULLYING THERE? mura man gi'ay ni sila ug mga batang gamay, hehe!!!

if that time would come, mura na sila ug irong buang nga na'ay rabies, PATAKA NA LANG UG PAMA-AK. hehe!!! moreover, ipa una usa tong mga commentator ug writer in any of the trimedia. PATHETIC NA GYUD!

bisan unsaon pa nako ug tuyok2x sa akong utok, di gihapon nako makita ang pama-agi, ang cause ug ang worth.

OT: Amo na lang itago among IP ani nga mo pakita nga located sa Cayman Islands or any country na wa'y extradition sa Pilipinas kay mas kuyaw pa man di'ay ni Marcos ang mga tawo ng na igo diri. Mas kuyaw pa ug temper ni Ma'am Imelda hahaha!!! I know for a fact that the lady sitting in Capitol has a very bad temper.

[vahnhelsing]

If we have applicable laws in our country about this just be careful guys...this could happen here. It would only take a smart lawyer to nail one.


smart lawyer la pa gpanganak....sama ra nig damgo nga daman.. somethings are not applicable here in our country same way nga lisod nato ipamugos atong pamaagi sa ubang lugar...