Jesus Cared About "Stopping War & Poverty" OR "Gays & Abortion"?

[vnz]

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[tripwire]

relax mam ang high blood. So personal decision? why are you trying to convince me? huh, nobody talks about abortion then you came in, talking about abortion, now you said personal decision? sorry, if thats person then keep it personal... i don't have problem with your personal decision, and stop convincing...because its not gonna work. I dont have to talk about abortion but you insist... so what now?

keep your personals i keep mine... ok nata?

hahay... again for the last time kebz, I did not convince you or anyone here in this forum that abortion is a must. We are discussing about abortion and title of this topic includes abortion... so why I am talking abortion? Read the title please. Of course you don't want to discuss about abortion because you only have limited knowledge. If you do, then it's easy for you to understand [o, dili na convince ha basin unya mo ingon na pud ka ug convincing you.].

So what now? My advice to you kebz, improve your reading comprehension aron magkasinabut ta ug ang uban makasabut nimo.

[kebotDiNaMute]

hahay... again for the last time kebz, I did not convince you or anyone here in this forum that abortion is a must. We are discussing about abortion and title of this topic includes abortion... so why I am talking abortion? Read the title please. Of course you don't want to discuss about abortion because you only have limited knowledge. If you do, then it's easy for you to understand [o, dili na convince ha basin unya mo ingon na pud ka ug convincing you.].

So what now? My advice to you kebz, improve your reading comprehension aron magkasinabut ta ug ang uban makasabut nimo.

"You're missing the whole point about abortion Kebz. As I have stated... abortion is not about morality it's about personal decision of the person involved"

"I did not convince you or anyone here in this forum that abortion is a must"
--- Wow, if ang mag basa trip d maka bantay aw gg. lets analyze your posts. You did not convince its a must, but what you are trying to do is to TAKE OUT MORALITY on ABORTION. So by then that becomes a personal choice. So feeling feeling nalang ni mam? if nahan ko pa abort akoy mag boot kay akoy gurl? Do you want that to happen to your daughter? Without morality mam on this case then you know how chaotic.

--- again its not an easy decision because we are dictated by conscience if you take that away to a person, then how do we know RIGHT and WRONG.

--- TAKE OUT MORALITY on ABORTION. Focus nalang ani mam... Its just like saying. Give a person an exemption to kill is that it? So now its RIGHT? Cge Gud luck imo man kaha na decision personal... But please don't insist if this is still WRONG for us. Whether you like it or not WRONG IS STILL WRONG thats how firm our belief is. You can keep it personal no problem for me, but telling me you are doing it RIGHT... sorry. Not acceptable.

--- And anyways I cannot do anything either. So whats the relevance of me telling you its WRONG? NOTHING RIGHT?

--- But you telling me its RIGHT... hmmm you want me to agree that you are RIGHT? So in this case I react and will say ITS STILL WRONG.

[flying fish]

relax mam ang high blood. So personal decision? why are you trying to convince me? huh, nobody talks about abortion then you came in, talking about abortion, now you said personal decision? sorry, if thats person then keep it personal... i don't have problem with your personal decision, and stop convincing...because its not gonna work. I dont have to talk about abortion but you insist... so what now?

keep your personals i keep mine... ok nata?

Hi bro kebs, for the sake of wishful thinking, let us say your a woman & pregnant, but your doctor said- if we push thru w/ the delivery of your baby it might cost your life in the process, so the doctor suggest abortion but w/ your consent,,
what would be your decission bro kebs?

[kebotDiNaMute]

Hi bro kebs, for the sake of wishful thinking, let us say your a woman & pregnant, but your doctor said- if we push thru w/ the delivery of your baby it might cost your life in the process, so the doctor suggest abortion but w/ your consent,,
what would be your decission bro kebs?

Brad that is situational life and death. If we will say abortion is RIGHT, then there will be no exception anytime you want lets abort it. Brad, my common sense tells me if it is life and death for the mother it is necessary to SAVE LIFE. -- ABORTION IS TAKE LIFE.

And yeah brad there is also one more reason, RAPED. This is still subject to debate, but if this happens to me, all I have to do is agree what the mother will say and pray for the person that God might gave her happiness.

lets say majority are doing it for no valid reasons... So ARE WE GOING TO SAY ABORTION IS RIGHT BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO SITUATION? hmmm...

Common Sense tells us brad, that should not be the case RIGHT? Not unless you want to take out morality. Then yea, wats wrong with abortion?

[flying fish]

Brad that is situational life and death. If we will say abortion is RIGHT, then there will be no exception anytime you want lets abort it. Brad, my common sense tells me if it is life and death for the mother it is necessary to SAVE LIFE. -- ABORTION IS TAKE LIFE.

And yeah brad there is also one more reason, RAPED. This is still subject to debate, but if this happens to me, all I have to do is agree what the mother will say and pray for the person that God might gave her happiness.

lets say majority are doing it for no valid reasons... So ARE WE GOING TO SAY ABORTION IS RIGHT BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO SITUATION? hmmm...

Common Sense tells us brad, that should not be the case RIGHT? Not unless you want to take out morality. Then yea, wats wrong with abortion?

Yes i have no problem w/ morality, though for me it should be "progressive"
So there are exception to the rules bro kebs?

[tripwire]

"You're missing the whole point about abortion Kebz. As I have stated... abortion is not about morality it's about personal decision of the person involved"

"I did not convince you or anyone here in this forum that abortion is a must"
--- Wow, if ang mag basa trip d maka bantay aw gg. lets analyze your posts. You did not convince its a must, but what you are trying to do is to TAKE OUT MORALITY on ABORTION. So by then that becomes a personal choice. So feeling feeling nalang ni mam? if nahan ko pa abort akoy mag boot kay akoy gurl? Do you want that to happen to your daughter? Without morality mam on this case then you know how chaotic.

you see kebz, if your comprehension is proper... you will get the message properly. I leave that to you to get my point. If not, that's no longer my problem.

--- again its not an easy decision because we are dictated by conscience if you take that away to a person, then how do we know RIGHT and WRONG.

Exactly! We are dictated by conscience. that conscience [stay with this, okay] will give women to a personal decision, right or wrong... that's her personal decision. get it now?

--- TAKE OUT MORALITY on ABORTION. Focus nalang ani mam... Its just like saying. Give a person an exemption to kill is that it? So now its RIGHT? Cge Gud luck imo man kaha na decision personal... But please don't insist if this is still WRONG for us. Whether you like it or not WRONG IS STILL WRONG thats how firm our belief is. You can keep it personal no problem for me, but telling me you are doing it RIGHT... sorry. Not acceptable.

Flying fish has a good question for you to answer. maybe you will understand the purpose of abortion.

--- And anyways I cannot do anything either. So whats the relevance of me telling you its WRONG? NOTHING RIGHT?

the relevance is to get informed by READING! Now, don't twist this as like convincing you.

--- But you telling me its RIGHT... hmmm you want me to agree that you are RIGHT? So in this case I react and will say ITS STILL WRONG.

Kebz, obviously you will not agree with it because you are a MAN and you don't get pregnant. Of course! your initial reaction is NO/WRONG/IMMORAL because you are not a lady. Big difference?

Oh before I go... I think you're the only person here that is very attentive about this issue and thank you for that because when members read these comments, they have the chance to read not just my views but they will get informed.

[kebotDiNaMute]

you see kebz, if your comprehension is proper... you will get the message properly. I leave that to you to get my point. If not, that's no longer my problem.


Exactly! We are dictated by conscience. that conscience [stay with this, okay] will give women to a personal decision, right or wrong... that's her personal decision. get it now?


Flying fish has a good question for you to answer. maybe you will understand the purpose of abortion.

the relevance is to get informed by READING! Now, don't twist this as like convincing you.

Kebz, obviously you will not agree with it because you are a MAN and you don't get pregnant. Of course! your initial reaction is NO/WRONG/IMMORAL because you are not a lady. Big difference?

Oh before I go... I think you're the only person here that is very attentive about this issue and thank you for that because when members read these comments, they have the chance to read not just my views but they will get informed.

"Exactly! We are dictated by conscience. that conscience will give women to a personal decision, right or wrong... that's her personal decision."
--- then thats it that is my point also. Earlier post you said ITS NOT ABOUT MORAL. This i strongly DISAGREE. So we will stick with moral issue and leave it at it.

[kebotDiNaMute]

Yes i have no problem w/ morality, though for me it should be "progressive"
So there are exception to the rules bro kebs?

Of course brad, there are exception, but the conversation is not dictating about exception, actually they are trying to validate ABORTION through this exception.

The big difference is if we say:

ABORTION is RIGHT, there is no implied exception... it makes the rule dissolved.

[tripwire]

"Exactly! We are dictated by conscience. that conscience will give women to a personal decision, right or wrong... that's her personal decision."
--- then thats it that is my point also. Earlier post you said ITS NOT ABOUT MORAL. This i strongly DISAGREE. So we will stick with moral issue and leave it at it.

your point kebz is that I am convincing you to believe that abortion is moral. Again... read all my previous posts because I answered this awhile back. Not having the liberty to write again because there is a reason - we call it "redundancy".