Jesus Cared About "Stopping War & Poverty" OR "Gays & Abortion"?

[cromagnon]

@ even tho trip

its already the gift of life and im sure overpopulation will never be a problem .

whats the purpose of government funds and money - for a babies life.

[cromagnon]

u may argue with it trip , but our ability to love.

im sure u cant do that on ur own.

its not about god. its the difference we have with animals.

being concious. and to love another

[tripwire]

@ even tho trip

its already the gift of life and im sure overpopulation will never be a problem .

whats the purpose of government funds and money - for a babies life.

Well, for one... politics has the benefits not the babies... I'm sure. I know what life is a gift but let's see the different side of "forced-gift". Many of us think that life is life - I don't argue with that but there are people who doesn't give a "dam" what life is for them... enter, crimes... atrocities... terror... etc. A rape victim isn't just about seks but that's a vicious crime against female's life... the same as you started a thread..."altered reality" because it is now altered for the rest of her life.

[Bigfoot Oracle]

what if that Baby was a product of a notorious rapist/murderer/pedophile with no remorse for human dignity? Does it change your perspective?

No. It doesn't change my perspective. And it's not an excuse for the mother to kill the baby.

Abortion is consensual not forced.-- This only apply to those countries that legalize abortion.

Killing:an event that causes someone to die, the act of terminating a life.

So yeah, in my opinion, in abortion, it's a matter of conviction no matter what the reason is. And I'd still still say it's murder.

No back on topic. Anti-Jesus and Pro Jesus don't like too much off topics.

[tripwire]

u may argue with it trip , but our ability to love.

im sure u cant do that on ur own.

its not about god. its the difference we have with animals.

being concious. and to love another

things can change in an instant. oh yeah it's not about God... it's a personal decision. If that happens to me, I may consider it because I don't want to see the product of a person's incapable the gift of life.

[chad_tukes]

technically speaking, life begins at conception. having a baby in a woman's womb as a result of a violent act can't even be considered a "gift" (or forced gift). it's not a gift at all, it's something that will haunt the mother for the rest of her life. being raped by a single ***** can be comparable to being killed; some victims even commit suicide.

my point is, if GOD exist, then he could have given us the free will, and we could have practiced that free will until today. freewill entails the choice to do what we want, whether it be aborting a baby or killing someone. now killing someone is illegal, but abortion is not in some countries. that is where you have to draw the line. the fact that abortion is legal in some countries and illegal in another, only means that the subject of ABORTION is continually debatable.

[tripwire]

No. It doesn't change my perspective. And it's not an excuse for the mother to kill the baby.

Good! then it's your decision. There comes a time when you will become a mother and your decisions will somehow change. Good or Bad... it's your decision.

Abortion is consensual not forced.-- This only apply to those countries that legalizes abortion.

Absolutely! The Roe vs. Wade case was a focal point of that abortion law here in US. Some other countries also legal.

Killing:an event that causes someone to die, the act of terminating a life.

Correct, but it doesn't say abortion as part of killing.

So yeah, in my opinion, in abortion, it's a matter of conviction no matter what the reason is. And I'd still still say it's murder.

That's true because Philippines don't have legal proceedings in abortion and the Church plays a huge role in protecting it. Oh yeah, it's a matter of conviction but what matter is when reasons are various things can happen in just a split of a second. For me, I don't consider abortion as murder. that's my conviction because things will change... it may not be now but someday.

No back on topic. Anti-Jesus and Pro Jesus don't like too much off topics.

Let's...

[Bigfoot Oracle]

Good! then it's your decision. There comes a time when you will become a mother and your decisions will somehow change. Good or Bad... it's your decision.

Abortion is an act of terminating a life therefore it's killing. But I will not argue with you on that anymore since we both rest our case.

Oh yeah, In 3 months time, I will be a mother.

[HapiGoLucky]

abortions has it's pros and cons... we dont need to argue with that... where where you in your theology clases?

[Bigfoot Oracle]

abortions has it's pros and cons... we dont need to argue with that... where where you in your theology clases?

True that. To your question, sorry, I didn't take theology classes. One doesn't have to take one to know that.