Mga pangutana nga nindut sad hinuklugan

[pigrah]

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NGUTANA lngko nimo sis tinood ni deli kung tinood ni
so sakto jud diay mag suicide bomb-mer ning uban
pero inogon nila malangit mansad kuno ni sila so lain
nasang tinood ba dai ni sis.....

dahh baw lang sir woi..wa mana gi tudlo sa Qur'an.
..whoever kills a single soul for other than a soul (killed) or for corruption in the earth, it is as though he had killed all of humanity all together...
ambot asa dapit dri ang ni ingon na oks ra mupatay.
kanang mga suicide bomber mao na cla ang mga wahabi kuno kasagara, g-promisan cla ug virgins or sumthin to that effect.
sikupon man dayon ni cla if ma-hibal-an na link cla or any kind of connection sa extremist group.

si Sir Malic na lang pangutan-a ky mas kahibaw cya. gasugod pa man ko.
Islam is in my heart. fer-iod.

[LIBER777]

dahh baw lang sir woi..wa mana gi tudlo sa qur'an.
..whoever kills a single soul for other than a soul (killed) or for corruption in the earth, it is as though he had killed all of humanity all together...
ambot asa dapit dri ang ni ingon na oks ra mupatay.
Kanang mga suicide bomber mao na cla ang mga wahabi kuno kasagara, g-promisan cla ug virgins or sumthin to that effect.
Sikupon man dayon ni cla if ma-hibal-an na link cla or any kind of connection sa extremist group.

Si sir malic na lang pangutan-a ky mas kahibaw cya. Gasugod pa man ko.
Islam is in my heart. Fer-iod.

salamat mam..... Period !

[kebotDiNaMute]

That's FALSE ANALOGY kebz..but for the sake of argument let us "accept" (without admitting) for awhile your comparison. Lets use some common sense here...if the application/program that was created would turn out to be bad anyway, why not fix the bug than reformat it, right? Or why create an application only to be deleted later? Don't you think in this case that the programmer is inefficient or doesn't know how to code?

I think you can't take the flood story literally. The "Great Deluge" is an allegorical biblical expression. The Flood represents the washing away (or baptism) while the wiping out of every creature (as described in Genesis) represents the consequence of man's sinful nature and the damnation of the earth (eschatological or end-time theology). I remember this was one of my term papers in theo school sa una in which I presented the alternative exegesis of Genesis (covering also the flood account) from the perspective of the Church of England (Anglican). But that would be off topic here

see those files as, unwanted file or logs... programmer already knows how the logs works and there he can trash it anytime he wishes to do so... yea, in that case if a programmer is efficient or not it cud be and could be not... remember that a program have its test environment(before flood remember they lived on the average of 600 hundreds years) and deployment(after flood never mention a hundreds of years lifespan..). I cannot argue more brad if its not that clear... actually nobody can fathom or shud i say, explain well the context... about flood baptsim? i remain skeptical bro... it never mentioned... and "God said He will not destroy the Earth again with waters". No body knows... if not mentioned or explained its hard to prove...

[kebotDiNaMute]

OT:When you talk about God or religion please bear in mind that you cannot come up with an answer if he exists or not, if he is he or she is she, if he/she is the caused of everything or not, or the God of Christianity is better than the God of Muslim... All you can is to exchange ideas and respect them on their beliefs

Bro interrupt ko sa imo comment... the discussion is about God... not outside the context of God... so continue guys... I want to know whats inside muslim, how can we understand them...

[kebotDiNaMute]

salamat mam..... Period !

Brad I have spoken with some muslims about suicide bomber, its like this brad.

Kana mga tawhana gi recruit na cla og mga rebelde... gi indoctrinate then boom. Commonly they are illiterate and promised thier family for fortunes, some owe their life to their boss and pay that price...
actually brad we have it in our own backyard... similar kaau, kabantay ka anang rally rally sa manila... one time one protesters was asked what is the purpose of the rally... she was asked to define 'PLUNDER how she understands it', she replied 'PAM BABABAE'. Some also admitted to get paid... ITS THE SAME THING THEY WERE PAID TO DO IT.

[Malic]

- mao nay nakalahi sa imu huna huna nimu ug sa huna huna sa Dios nga naa sa Bibliya Bro... nganu imu man i question ang planu sa Dios nga di man ka kaabot sa iya panhuna huna. Mao na iya gibuhat ug di na dapat mu question kay mas nakahibalo man siya.

- sa inyu bitaw, gisugo man mu ayaw kaun ug BABOY - wala man lagi mu ni question sa inyu DIOS ana? nga ug buot hunahunaon unsa ra gud nay rason nganu dili ipakaon ang baboy, ug sa huna huna sa tawo basihan - nganu gud tawn di ipakaon ang BABOY nga naa man na sustansya, wala man lagi mu ni Question? tungod kay apra ninyu mas nakahibalo ang Inyu DIOS ana, so same sa pagpakamatay ni Kristo - siya may mas nakahibalo.


- Unsay man say naa sa baboy nga makasala man mu if mukaon mu?



That's why Christ changed that in the New Testament..

Peace...

First, you assumed a position where you think that God became flesh.

Second, I am not questioning God's plan but rather the illogical presentation of the story that a POWERFUL being must die for the forgiveness of sin.

Sa Qur'an sir, it is mentioned why ang baboy dili ipakaon. Even sa inyong bible dili ipakaon ang Baboy. Mas dako ang possibility nga masakit ka sa baboy kaysa makahatag nimo ug kabskog sa imong kalawasan. ang kanang tao sige ug kaon ug baboy loyahon.

hugaw so dili ipakoan? logical ba? yes. Why? lisod baya kan-on ning hugaw.

Ginoo gamhanan, magpakamatay para lang sa sala? logical ba? dili. Ngano man? gamhanan siya, puede ra mosulti siya nga I have forgiven you be cleanse from your sins.

Unsay naa sa baboy? hugaw.

kamo unsay naa sa DYING ni Hesus nga mapasaylo man mo sa inyong sala?


wala niya gi change sir instead siya ang nahimong sacrifice ug ang iyang altar is ang cross. Same concept.

[Malic]

NGUTANA lngko nimo sis tinood ni deli kung tinood ni
so sakto jud diay mag suicide bomb-mer ning uban
pero ingon sa uban malangit mansad kuno ni sila so lain
nasang tinood ba dai ni sis.....

Yes malangit na sila.

Pero katong mga muslims nga mga suicide bomber nga mga terrorista dili to sila mahilangit.

[kebotDiNaMute]

Yes malangit na sila.

Pero katong mga muslims nga mga suicide bomber nga mga terrorista dili to sila mahilangit.

Wow pwerte sayona ra diay sa nu malangit sah... maka assess man diay mo...

[Malic]

Wow pwerte sayona ra diay sa nu malangit sah... maka assess man diay mo...

Salvation by faith man pod ni amo.

[kebotDiNaMute]

First, you assumed a position where you think that God became flesh.

Second, I am not questioning God's plan but rather the illogical presentation of the story that a POWERFUL being must die for the forgiveness of sin.

Sa Qur'an sir, it is mentioned why ang baboy dili ipakaon. Even sa inyong bible dili ipakaon ang Baboy. Mas dako ang possibility nga masakit ka sa baboy kaysa makahatag nimo ug kabskog sa imong kalawasan. ang kanang tao sige ug kaon ug baboy loyahon.

hugaw so dili ipakoan? logical ba? yes. Why? lisod baya kan-on ning hugaw.

Ginoo gamhanan, magpakamatay para lang sa sala? logical ba? dili. Ngano man? gamhanan siya, puede ra mosulti siya nga I have forgiven you be cleanse from your sins.

Unsay naa sa baboy? hugaw.

kamo unsay naa sa DYING ni Hesus nga mapasaylo man mo sa inyong sala?


wala niya gi change sir instead siya ang nahimong sacrifice ug ang iyang altar is ang cross. Same concept.

If you are asking the logic brad? we just cannot comprehend... but always remember Christ came as a sacrifice... Remember that Christ always ask the father for blessings and ask the father for all he needed. Also remember infant Christ never know the world. Logical ba? If you ask tinood bani si Christ? yes, Check out READER's Digest 1989 Book of TRUTH.

May I ask also brad, how come there is a mention of GENIE in the Qou'ran. No muslims ever given me an answer... if you can't its ok... qou'ran is not allowed to be talked about outside your church dba?