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    Quote Originally Posted by pigrah View Post
    Why do we blame it all to God? Are we not responsible enough for our own actions?

    I just dont understand why non belivers blame all catastrophe or unexplainable on God when they always shove it on our throats that there is none?


    sakto judka sis.... just blame it to TS why all Q on this thread blame to God

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15% Discount View Post
    hehehhe na unsa unsaon pgka ginoo atong lasaros nga laymen raman gyudto siya...


    curious lngko sir sa koran aduna basay ni resurrect nga character sir...

    aw pero ni resurrect man gud to siya. Di ba mao man unta to imo pasabot ani...pero one thing sir deli bitaw mamatay ang ginoo iyang ang pagtobos lang..... pero ni rise cya upon 3 days...
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    E google lang sir nya kung unsa imo pangutana, e post lang nya.

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    sege sir morag nalagpas na noon ta aning duha...

    to clear it out that lasaruz resurrection is bec. of jesus deli pasabot kai ni resurrect sya ginoo na sya.
    - John 12,1



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    Quote Originally Posted by 15% Discount View Post
    sege sir morag nalagpas na noon ta aning duha...

    to clear it out that lasaruz resurrection is bec. of jesus deli pasabot kai ni resurrect sya ginoo na sya.
    - John 12,1


    dili sir oi. Nag ampo baya to si Hesus. nag ampo to siay sa Ginoo nga unta ma resurrect si lazarrus.


    Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God? Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go. Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him. - John 11:40-45
    Last edited by Malic; 07-24-2009 at 04:55 PM.

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    That's FALSE ANALOGY kebz..but for the sake of argument let us "accept" (without admitting) for awhile your comparison. Lets use some common sense here...if the application/program that was created would turn out to be bad anyway, why not fix the bug than reformat it, right? Or why create an application only to be deleted later? Don't you think in this case that the programmer is inefficient or doesn't know how to code?

    I think you can't take the flood story literally. The "Great Deluge" is an allegorical biblical expression. The Flood represents the washing away (or baptism) while the wiping out of every creature (as described in Genesis) represents the consequence of man's sinful nature and the damnation of the earth (eschatological or end-time theology). I remember this was one of my term papers in theo school sa una in which I presented the alternative exegesis of Genesis (covering also the flood account) from the perspective of the Church of England (Anglican). But that would be off topic here

    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Well brad to tell you guys honestly... nobody could answer the intention of God... leave it that way.... but i can give you an analogy based on how i percieve it according to the scriptures and some common sense...

    You are asking a very difficult question though.

    Ill try to illustrate brad the best I cud....


    Programmer = Creator
    PC = earth/Universe...
    OS = Environment
    application = humans

    Given these variables we can understand a bit of intention and reaction...

    1. Programmer is not bound by the Laws of the OS PHYSICALLY meaning he is outside th RULE of OS because PC NEEDS POWER, NEEDS COMPONENTS TO start while the programmer is sitting on his chair. GETS?
    --- in our science space time and matter does not apply to him...

    2. OS needs pc to install an application.
    --- an application nowadays can know, what are the components inside the pc. the Chip number/model and the OS. Because of this information our science is trying to construct, how this chips was being created... meaning the pc itself is trying to reconstruct the physical componets of the PC.

    3. Programmer can delete an Item/Application using his program or using the OS.
    --- creator can kill humans either using his power or using the natural way... sickness, accident... remember its easy to press DEL Key than to make a program to delete that applet/application.

    4. Application are designed to achieve specific goals or task.
    --- our design is to praise God or to achieve what he wants us to do... for example... if programmers created the games, we are the NPC inside that game... but, because he created us, so he can remove us from that game...

    --- what happen to the flood is that He REFORMAT THE PC...

    Thats the best analogy i could think of brad... thats why if you think about it brad we really do not have the power to complain... we are just an application or just a file in your desktop screen... I hope you get something... from this...
    Last edited by brownprose; 07-24-2009 at 05:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    dili sir oi. Nag ampo baya to si Hesus. nag ampo to siay sa Ginoo nga unta ma resurrect si lazarrus.


    ambot lng if nag ampo bato siya tingali naa sa koran....

    as i know nga b4 mantog pangaon iya dayong gi adto unya iyang gi resurrect
    wala siya mag ampo direct ditso siya mismo......

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    dili sir oi. Nag ampo baya to si Hesus. nag ampo to siay sa Ginoo nga unta ma resurrect si lazarrus.


    Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God? Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go. Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him. - John 11:40-45

    if nag pray siya or wala ..... pasok gihapon sir kai 3 in 1 mani sila murag coffee ba 3 in 1


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    Quote Originally Posted by 15% Discount View Post
    ambot lng if nag ampo bato siya tingali naa sa koran....

    as i know nga b4 mantog pangaon iya dayong gi adto unya iyang gi resurrect
    wala siya mag ampo direct ditso siya mismo......

    hala basa sa ug bible sir ha...


    naa ro...

    Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God? Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go. Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him. - John 11:40-45


    ga ampo sir noh. hehehe. so sayop to imo gi ingon nga tungod ni Hesus mao ni resurrect si Lazarus.


    sige sir ari sa ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    hala basa sa ug bible sir ha...


    naa ro...

    Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God? Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me. And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me. And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go. Then many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things which Jesus did, believed on him. - John 11:40-45


    ga ampo sir noh. hehehe. so sayop to imo gi ingon nga tungod ni Hesus mao ni resurrect si Lazarus.


    sige sir ari sa ko.
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    3 in 1 lagi to sir murag kape ba! tabla gihapon ta heheheh so siya ra gihapon nag ampo sya or wala ... cege sir happy RAMADAn advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by 15% Discount View Post
    if nag pray siya or wala ..... pasok gihapon sir kai 3 in 1 mani sila murag coffee ba 3 in 1


    sir nagtoon ka ug doctrine of trinity? be sincere sir? kung wala I suggest pagtoon sa para masabtan jud nimo kung unsay pasabot sa trinity.

    kay ang sulti ra ba ana ingun didto nga the Three persons are distinct to each other. Distinct and each is God.

    okay sir ari na jud ko kay kaon ko ug shawarma.

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