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    Default Athiesm vs. Science


    Atheism is a lack of belief mentality which rejects the existence of anything supernatural. By default, atheists are also naturalists and evolutionists.


    The Laws of Conservation

    If matter and energy cannot be created, how did they originate?
    Again, it is impossible to create matter and energy through natural methods. However, they do exist, so we find ourselves in a quandary. It would seem to the unbiased either matter and energy made themselves from nothing or a supernatural creator made them. Both answers violate the law of conservation.

    If the universe is "all matter and energy", how could it be an open system?
    If the universe is everything, how can there be something else out there to provide more matter and energy?
    A closed system is defined as a system in which neither matter nor energy can be exchanged with its surroundings. Matter and energy cannot enter or escape from a closed system. It has boundaries that cannot be crossed. The definition of the word universe is all matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole

    "There is not even one generally accepted scientific theory on the origin of matter and energy."



    The Law of Biogenesis


    This law is composed of two parts. The first part states that living things only come from other living things and not from non-living matter. Life only comes from life. The second part of this law states that when living things procreate, their offspring are the same type of organism they are.

    How could DNA and RNA evolve from something very rudimentary into their present day intricacy when the organism containing the basic genome would require the more complex, present day DNA and RNA to replicate?

    The Gene Emergence Project has sponsored an event called The Origin of Life Prize. They are currently offering 1 million dollars to anyone who can offer a credible, verifiable and reproducible explanation of the origin of life.
    "Origin of Life Prize - Life Origins - Abiogenesis"

    "There is not even one generally accepted scientific theory on the origin of life."


    Scientific Method

    The scientific method is held in high esteem by most atheists and it is composed of the following parts...


    1) Careful observation of a phenomenon.
    2) Formulation of a hypothesis concerning the phenomenon.
    3) Experimentation to demonstrate whether the hypothesis is true or false.
    4) A conclusion that validates or modifies the hypothesis.


    Nobody has ever observed the creation of matter or energy.
    Nobody has ever observed a molecular cloud collapse or any planet form.
    Nobody has ever observed abiogenesis.
    Nobody has ever observed the evolution of any genome.
    Nobody has ever observed any phylum, class, order or family change.


    Evolutionists are excellent at Step 2 - Hypothesizing.

    The only problem comes on Steps 1, 3 and 4 - Observation, Experimentation and Validation.

    We read about their theories and the conclusions of the failed experiments they performed in an effort to validate their opinions about a phenomenon that has not only never been proven scientifically but has never even been observed.

    The definition of a miracle is an event which is inexplicable by the laws of nature. The fact is there are zero generally accepted scientific explanations on these issues. If you want to believe in naturalism it is fine with me but please don't make the erroneous claim that "science" is on your side.



    What term is used to describe something you believe to be true but has no empirical evidence?

    Faith.

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    Instead of bashing our faces... lets do a more productive discussion... Any comments on the above? if none, ill find another one...

    This is one of my PROMOTION TO ATHIESM by the way...

    "Lets help ATHIESM OVERCOME SCIENCE..."

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    nobody has observed what?

    have you observed your GOD? you can't even SEE your GOD, lest OBSERVE him.

    ...and i've been asking this for sometime now, where did GOD come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    nobody has observed what?

    have you observed your GOD? you can't even SEE your GOD, lest OBSERVE him.

    ...and i've been asking this for sometime now, where did GOD come from?
    why not post it as thread so i can give you an attempt... just answer those listed above so we can have a more meaningful discussion and basing at the same time... cmon!

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    This is a ploy.

    you see now kebz, no one will believe you anymore.

    Have you heard the story, "the boy who cried wolf"?

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    O, question. Why the title Atheism VS. Science?

    did you know that Atheists are supporters and believers of science?

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    KEBOT, you even failed to provide an APPROPRIATE title for this thread, and you expect me to give you meaningful discussions?

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    O, question. Why the title Atheism VS. Science?

    did you know that Atheists are supporters and believers of science?
    Now you pointed it out... and you figure it out.. yea they believe it by FAITH.

    You know why there is no evidence on the above mention yet they believe so much... hahaha! So I guess we are standing on the same ground "FAITH".

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    KEBOT, you even failed to provide an APPROPRIATE title for this thread, and you expect me to give you meaningful discussions?

    LOL
    Brad if you can provide proof then you got more than A million BUCKS on your hands! Those are belief against science by the way! You can try... saman pa book nata ticket to get your prize money?

    So do you believe it by FAITH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Atheism is a lack of belief mentality which rejects the existence of anything supernatural. By default, atheists are also naturalists and evolutionists.


    The Laws of Conservation

    If matter and energy cannot be created, how did they originate?
    Again, it is impossible to create matter and energy through natural methods. However, they do exist, so we find ourselves in a quandary. It would seem to the unbiased either matter and energy made themselves from nothing or a supernatural creator made them. Both answers violate the law of conservation.

    If the universe is "all matter and energy", how could it be an open system?
    If the universe is everything, how can there be something else out there to provide more matter and energy?
    A closed system is defined as a system in which neither matter nor energy can be exchanged with its surroundings. Matter and energy cannot enter or escape from a closed system. It has boundaries that cannot be crossed. The definition of the word universe is all matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole

    "There is not even one generally accepted scientific theory on the origin of matter and energy."



    The Law of Biogenesis


    This law is composed of two parts. The first part states that living things only come from other living things and not from non-living matter. Life only comes from life. The second part of this law states that when living things procreate, their offspring are the same type of organism they are.

    How could DNA and RNA evolve from something very rudimentary into their present day intricacy when the organism containing the basic genome would require the more complex, present day DNA and RNA to replicate?

    The Gene Emergence Project has sponsored an event called The Origin of Life Prize. They are currently offering 1 million dollars to anyone who can offer a credible, verifiable and reproducible explanation of the origin of life.
    "Origin of Life Prize - Life Origins - Abiogenesis"

    "There is not even one generally accepted scientific theory on the origin of life."


    Scientific Method

    The scientific method is held in high esteem by most atheists and it is composed of the following parts...


    1) Careful observation of a phenomenon.
    2) Formulation of a hypothesis concerning the phenomenon.
    3) Experimentation to demonstrate whether the hypothesis is true or false.
    4) A conclusion that validates or modifies the hypothesis.


    Nobody has ever observed the creation of matter or energy.
    Nobody has ever observed a molecular cloud collapse or any planet form.
    Nobody has ever observed abiogenesis.
    Nobody has ever observed the evolution of any genome.
    Nobody has ever observed any phylum, class, order or family change.


    Evolutionists are excellent at Step 2 - Hypothesizing.

    The only problem comes on Steps 1, 3 and 4 - Observation, Experimentation and Validation.

    We read about their theories and the conclusions of the failed experiments they performed in an effort to validate their opinions about a phenomenon that has not only never been proven scientifically but has never even been observed.

    The definition of a miracle is an event which is inexplicable by the laws of nature. The fact is there are zero generally accepted scientific explanations on these issues. If you want to believe in naturalism it is fine with me but please don't make the erroneous claim that "science" is on your side.



    What term is used to describe something you believe to be true but has no empirical evidence?

    Faith.

    This one right here kebs is not a PROOF that Atheist is hmmmm, wala ko kasabot? Atheist Vs Science? then imo gi equate sila sa Evolutionists?

    Evolution is part of Science.

    Anyways...this one right here kebs does not PROVE that your God is true.

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