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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    when prayer was taken out of the US Public schools, mikimaw daun ang far right. Gi-atake kuno ang Christianity og ilang right to pray.
    Klaro baya unta sa constitution nga ang gobyerno secular og walai pabor2x sa kung unsang relihiyon.

    Naa bai prayers sa atong public schools?
    Exactly! This religion branded the school's commissions as ATHEISTS. Here I thought that government and church are separate > would anyone define that as democracy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    when prayer was taken out of the US Public schools, mikimaw daun ang far right. Gi-atake kuno ang Christianity og ilang right to pray.
    Klaro baya unta sa constitution nga ang gobyerno secular og walai pabor2x sa kung unsang relihiyon.

    Naa bai prayers sa atong public schools?
    Brad, not all forms of Government are compatible with each other... brad in every change there is always a RESISTANCE...

    Jonn Connor Out!

  3. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    Kinsay ingon outcast ang protestantism? IKaw? pst... yaw pag boot... if athiesm cguro you know why... let me explain...

    situation:
    Athiesm always discuss thier belief is better than thiest... if they don't promote it no one will know so they will promote it...

    effect:
    They are becoming an outcast because most people do not know the benefit of being Godless... instead people see it as lawless. Why did I say this? because "God" represent LAW moral law if you don't have this and you announce this then people will look at you as "LOST". So, promoting an Athiest is not Good in our country... people are just not prepared for it. Maybe you are... but i doubt you are just confused... an athiest will always say. who god? what god? they don't even bother talking about God... but you guys in istorya are so dumb... you don't even qualify to be one... its ok... nobody's perfect... HAHAHA! funny! Ako rani idea ha... I stand corrected if I said something wrong...

    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    here listen, philippines is a democratic country. agree? but it doesnt mean you have the freedom to change the existing national law. now if you dont like the law ang you rebel on it, what would i call you?
    you're both missing the point..

    there is no democracy in religion precisely because of your arguments. in democracy, if you don't agree with the other people, you are still recognized by the government as a minority group.. you are given a voice to speak out your concerns. you are also given rights and some policies and laws that will protect your concerns.

    but in religion, if you don't agree with other people, what do you do? you create another religion. it might be under the same "umbrella", but you're not recognized anymore with that "other" group, but instead as a separate "outcast" group. gets mo? now where's the democracy in that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    you're both missing the point..

    there is no democracy in religion precisely because of your arguments. in democracy, if you don't agree with the other people, you are still recognized by the government as a minority group.. you are given a voice to speak out your concerns. you are also given rights and some policies and laws that will protect your concerns.

    but in religion, if you don't agree with other people, what do you do? you create another religion. it might be under the same "umbrella", but you're not recognized anymore with that "other" group, but instead as a separate "outcast" group. gets mo? now where's the democracy in that?
    POLITICS = COMMON GOOD.
    RELIGION = WHAT IS GOOD FOR GOD. (not necessarily common good because not everyone believe...)

    So what are you asking is common good for religion... Hmmmm... its not possible... unless government is based on religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    POLITICS = COMMON GOOD.
    RELIGION = WHAT IS GOOD FOR GOD. (not necessarily common good because not everyone believe...)

    So what are you asking is common good for religion... Hmmmm... its not possible... unless government is based on religion.

    mao bitaw na ang title sa thread.. i'm just stating the facts here..

    In Religion, there is no Democracy.


    Another example: Gays and Lesbians..
    are they recognized as a minority in your religion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    mao bitaw na ang title sa thread.. i'm just stating the facts here..

    In Religion, there is no Democracy.


    Another example: Gays and Lesbians..
    are they recognized as a minority in your religion?
    They are not accepted. It is clearly stated... no gays or homosexuals in Church.

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    Politics = Common Good?

    Yeah, for their "OWN GOOD" not for the masses.

    Religion = What is good for God?

    Religion is a group of individuals... you probably meant, faith and spirituality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    They are not accepted. It is clearly stated... no gays or homosexuals in Church.
    So, how do you treat them when they are in your church attending a service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    So, how do you treat them when they are in your church attending a service?
    They will be briefed before the sermon. No gays are allowed, no sexy dressess, don't disturb people. But we don't discourage them as members of the church... i don't even care as long as he/she is not my friend. If he/she did then I will tell him those are no-no... my church just don't compromise... I could say there are gays among the church, but they fought for it... you just could'nt notice it until you personally know them... well its up to him who judge the man's heart.

    I haven't gone to church for a year I miss it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Politics = Common Good?

    Yeah, for their "OWN GOOD" not for the masses.

    Religion = What is good for God?

    Religion is a group of individuals... you probably meant, faith and spirituality.
    what I was pointing is Objective. Not Organization...

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