Why The Christian Faith?

[Mr.Ho_chia]

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Originally Posted by gwynhuever View Post
..i admire jesus christ ...he is simply awesome...but i have also read the teachings of other "religions"...buddhism for one is also very beautiful....it is not fair to just sing praises about christianity when we are not well informed about the other philosophies...

Personally i believe all god's messengers ( jesus, mohammad, krishna etc) all preached one common teaching love. Sa mga followers na lang jud nag kalandrakas because of interpretations and the idea of being better than the other faiths....

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I certainlyh hope it's as simple as that.

[bluedes]

Originally Posted by gwynhuever View Post
..i admire jesus christ ...he is simply awesome...but i have also read the teachings of other "religions"...buddhism for one is also very beautiful....it is not fair to just sing praises about christianity when we are not well informed about the other philosophies...

Personally i believe all god's messengers ( jesus, mohammad, krishna etc) all preached one common teaching love. Sa mga followers na lang jud nag kalandrakas because of interpretations and the idea of being better than the other faiths....

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I certainlyh hope it's as simple as that.

why make it complicated?

[Mr.Ho_chia]

and not any other faith.

Think of the deepest question of your heart and mind. These are the areas we deal with, particularly these 4, the question of:

1. Origin ----- Where did I come from? How did I came to be?
2. Meaning--- Purpose, How do I find purpose in life?
3. Morality --- How do I define and separate right from wrong?
4. Destiny --- What happen when I die?

Religion(s) attempts to answer those questions and sometimes world view may answer one with a fair degree of correspondence to truth but when you put all 4 together theres need to be a coherence.

What makes Jesus Christ unique and different is the coherence HE gives to all these answers. HIS purity, His virgin birth, His sacrifice and finally His resurrection from the dead, indeed unique and different.

The importance is not just what was said but who said it. The person of Jesus Christ, The life he lived is what life should and ought to be.

Maybe a second look is needed..... just maybe..............

[Mr.Ho_chia]

why make it complicated?

It's not making it complicated. it is being able to tie everything smoothly without contradictions.

[bluedes]

Maybe a second look is needed..... just maybe..............

you are limiting yourself to the story of Jesus Christ only.

Do you know enough of other religions to invalidate their answers to those questions you have posted as containing contradictions?

Others see contradiction in the way those questions are being answered with the religion of Christianity also. Especially on the part that we are all initially sinners.

[Mr.Ho_chia]

you are limiting yourself to the story of Jesus Christ only.

Do you know enough of other religions to invalidate their answers to those questions you have posted as containing contradictions?

Others see contradiction in the way those questions are being answered with the religion of Christianity also. Especially on the part that we are all initially sinners.

I can say I know enough to be able to make a choice.

I understand that not all can embrace the belief that we all fall short to the glory of GOD and therefore born sinners by virtue of the fall of men. but life is such a great teacher.... experience showed me that.

In raising my boy we always tell him to do only good things, to always be truthful and never say lie.... but when he was 3 then, he lied without anyone teaching him... why is that?..... the fall of men! all are sinners. inheriting the sin. that is why we need to be justified and saved but again that is according to the christian faith.

why the Christain faith and not any other faith? you got one good example there again.

[bluedes]

I can say I know enough to be able to make a choice.

I understand that not all can embrace the belief that we all fall short to the glory of GOD and therefore born sinners by virtue of the fall of men. but life is such a great teacher.... experience showed me that.

In raising my boy we always tell him to do only good things, to always be truthful and never say lie.... but when he was 3 then, he lied without anyone teaching him... why is that?..... the fall of men! all are sinners.

then you have an obligation to live with that choice.

the problem with that belief is that it condemns everyone falling short of such belief. and nothing reeks of more fear than condemnations.

an example would be of your little boy, who knew little of what is right and wrong, and you already judge him as sinning. he is 3 years old for Christ's sake.. it is natural for a child to lie, especially if he fears something.. which is not born out of love for the parent (no offense) but avoidance of punishment.

[Mr.Ho_chia]

then you have an obligation to live with that choice.

the problem with that belief is that it condemns everyone falling short of such belief. and nothing reeks of more fear than condemnations.

an example would be of your little boy, who knew little of what is right and wrong, and you already judge him as sinning. he is 3 years old for Christ's sake.. it is natural for a child to lie, especially if he fears something.. which is not born out of love for the parent (no offense) but avoidance of punishment.

I think the Christian belief contrary to your viewpoint offers hope, it embraces love and understanding. that a great GOD of host, died for you and me. That HE did everything including giving up HIS throne, be humiliated and mocked and die so that you and me will be free from condemnation and separation from HIM. Can you imagine that........ who we, that HE should die for us?

youp my little innocent boy know so little and he lied. He lied also when we were playing then, he said he gave his candies to his cousins when infact he kept it all for himself. It looks innocent and funny but my point is... sin is inherent.... of course, children even sinners are still innocent until they reach the age of accountability. Children lies in happy times too.

[bluedes]

I think the Christian belief contrary to your viewpoint offers hope, it embraces love and understanding. that a great GOD of host, died for you and me. That HE did everything including giving up HIS throne, be humiliated and mocked and die so that you and me will be free from condemnation and separation from HIM. Can you imagine that........ who we, that HE should die for us?

the question then is, why would a God give up His throne, be humiliated and mocked and die so that we will be saved? because he loves us? that's a very ridiculous story. contrast that to human setting, you need to be humiliated, mocked, and die just so your children can be free from condemnation? remember, you are God in the first place.. defeats the purpose of being God in the first place.

youp my little innocent boy know so little and he lied. He lied also when we were playing then, he said he gave his candies to his cousins when infact he kept it all for himself. It looks innocent and funny but my point is... sin is inherent.... of course, children even sinners are still innocent until they reach the age of accountability. Children lies in happy times too.

yup, its inherent in your definition. but not in others. that's how you were brought up.

to put yourselves in the child's shoes, this would probably be what he's feeling: "If I tell papa that I kept all the candies to myself, he would probably scold me, I wouldn't want that. He would probably feel I'm a bad person because I didn't share.. so I'll tell him I gave it to my cousins so that papa will feel good about me." A child brought up with lots of conditions is always wary not to look "bad" in front of a parent, most especially if the parent has set such very high conditions for the child. And the poor kid, innocent as he is, will automatically do things based on emotion (not on contemplation) what will make him appear goody-two-shoes to his parents.

its a big irony that you call your child "innocent", yet you already label him as sinning. oh well, he's your child, not mine.

anyway, don't take my word for it.. just do your best as a parent.. there isn't any sure guide handbook of parenting around anyway..

[Mr.Ho_chia]

the question then is, why would a God give up His throne, be humiliated and mocked and die so that we will be saved? because he loves us? that's a very ridiculous story. contrast that to human setting, you need to be humiliated, mocked, and die just so your children can be free from condemnation? remember, you are God in the first place.. defeats the purpose of being God in the first place.

God's thoughts are higher than ours, HIS ways are higher than ours at least to the believers point of view. and for you to say that, I assume and no offense meant you think your better than GOD in many ways. That's understandable very humanistic declaration, you are making a statement and your orientation isn't new. I hope you are so right and I am wrong for your sake.

It didn't defeat the purpose at all, it shows the very nature of the Christian GOD, He is Holy and just. HE is govern by rules that is reflective of HIS nature of Holiness and truth so that in the end when HE judge everyone no one can question that judgment.