disbelievers go to heaven or hell?

[hizuka007]

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oi oi oi! ayaw mo paglalis kay ma-hell jud mo ...

[Sinyalan]

@sinyalan

your answers are meaningless it doesnt point to my question which is the concept of intelligent design...
i dont mind your disbelief,,, everybody has disbelief! to think that there is judgement in the next life is a scary thing, if you are wise enough, you have to figure out some common sense..or else iL declare you as dumb as dawkins...

concept of ID? That concept bro is flawed. You declare me as dumb as dawkins? Pleaseeee, wake up bungot! Dawkins does not speak for all atheist and he was not appointed to speak for all atheists. Do you think that you have common sense too? Wa kaha matuk-i sa imong gisulat? Your belief defines no common sense either. The fact is, you didn't even know where that intelligent design came from. Naa bah kaha ni sa imong bibliya bungot? If you have common sense bro, let me ask you simple question... unsa imong buhaton? "Suppose I hire you to build me a bird cage, and you build it without a top, and I refuse to pay on the grounds that my bird might fly away. A judge will side with me. On the other hand suppose you build it with a top, and I refuse to pay full price on the grounds that my bird is a penguin, and the top is a waste. Unless I told you that my bird couldn't fly, the judge will side with you. We can therefore regard it as a simple thought that if a bird can fly the fact need not be mentioned, but if the bird can't fly and it is relevant, then the fact must be mentioned". Unsa may imong tubag? It only takes one word to answer it.

This I declare that if you can't answer that with a common sense you will be labeled as pagarpar.

[cromagnon]

when u die . u go to ur coffin. for me a heaven and a hell is a repsresentation of ur present life./

you do sins - u live a chaotic life/
you do good- u live a happy life w/ peace of mind

since what you think and whats on ur mind all the time will happen to you . e.g. you keep saying to yourself " di jud ko maibog niya 2x" - but more likely in the end maibog noon ka , kay he/she is always on ur mind.

so
if you read the bible that talks about sins - more likely you will commit sin./ like being in the church - you keep saying "dili na mag-usab kami" . inig gawas sa simbahan manglibak sa silingan."

tip: if you want to stop smoking - dont say i will quit smoking
say: I am a none smoker
if you want to get rich dont say - i want to be rich , i will be rich
say: I am rich .
being in present tense will tell ur subconcious mind and saying it over n over , will make it believe that its true. and ur mind set will becom ur reality./

[Hellblazer 2.1]

is theosophy dogmatic?

it is never dogmatic.

[butitoy]

disbelievers go to heaven or hell?..

they wud go to their own perception of paradise...

or bilin lang sa inbetween void.

selling ice water and paypay for the soul going to hell

and

cellular phones for the souls going to heaven.( that they may call persons they left behind )

......

[SioDenz]

What if theres someone who doesnt believe in GOD, an aethiest perhaps, is like a saint?

Someone who is almost perfect. Someone who doesnt do evil things but wont believe in God.
Gives donations, faithful to his wife/husband, compassionate to people, doesnt swear, helps in any way he can possible, respects others and nature, all good character named, s/he possesses it.

But the Bible or Qur'an says the disbelievers shall perish in hell.
does someone as good as that count?


PS
i dunno if there is already a thread similar to this, but if there is, feel free to del it, if there isnt, feel free to leave ur thoughts. thanks.

I dont think its gonna be your or our problem, wala man kaha ni ingun an Bible or Qur'an nga kita maoy mu Judge? so leave it kung kinsay incharge ana...

"We were called to be witnesses, not lawyers or judges"

[pigrah]

I dont think its gonna be your or our problem, wala man kaha ni ingun an Bible or Qur'an nga kita maoy mu Judge? so leave it kung kinsay incharge ana...

"We were called to be witnesses, not lawyers or judges"

well im not considering it as my problem, i was just wonderin Siodenz...excuze meee for bein' curious

d bitaw, i just wanna know the diff points of view sa mga peeps, if thats not too much to ask

[SioDenz]

well im not considering it as my problem, i was just wonderin Siodenz...excuze meee for bein' curious

d bitaw, i just wanna know the diff points of view sa mga peeps, if thats not too much to ask

Gani, mao nay answer sa bibliya bro, Ni anhi si Kristo para pag sangyaw sa maayung balita para musunod tah and then mamahimu tah nga mga witnesses, not judges. If unsa gitudlo sa atu, atu na sundon - Kay kita nasakop nman sa balod then we will be judge according to the law, nya kadtong nabuhi nga wala nagsunod sa balod, they will be judge according na sa Ginoo. Sa imu pangutana nag mahilangit ba sila - di tah katubag ana kay wala tah kahibalo sa unsay naa sa ila kasing kasing, most of the time di man gani tah ka kahibalo if nakasala na ba tah or wala. So mao nay reason nga wala ta sugua para mu judge kay Ginoo ra man nakahibalo sa atu isig ka kaugalingun...

Peace...

[pigrah]

Gani, mao nay answer sa bibliya bro, Ni anhi si Kristo para pag sangyaw sa maayung balita para musunod tah and then mamahimu tah nga mga witnesses, not judges. If unsa gitudlo sa atu, atu na sundon - Kay kita nasakop nman sa balod then we will be judge according to the law, nya kadtong nabuhi nga wala nagsunod sa balod, they will be judge according na sa Ginoo. Sa imu pangutana nag mahilangit ba sila - di tah katubag ana kay wala tah kahibalo sa unsay naa sa ila kasing kasing, most of the time di man gani tah ka kahibalo if nakasala na ba tah or wala. So mao nay reason nga wala ta sugua para mu judge kay Ginoo ra man nakahibalo sa atu isig ka kaugalingun...

Peace...

Yes, thank u for the input. I am aware of that.
It is written in the Bible, in the Holy Qur'an that the ones who dont believe in Him will perish in Hell.
As i have shared, I do believe in Him and the holy book however I also believe that He is merciful and forgiving. That is why when I read that line i got a little confused.
If musunod jud tas kasulatan, meaning mga tao na dili mutuo miski na buutan, wa na lay kwenta?

But then again nobody can aswer this question except Him coz He is the Judge after all.

[cromagnon]

But then again nobody can aswer this question except Him coz He is the Judge after all.

this him ur refering doesn't exist , . These are just instrument to govern and sytemized ealry humans .And this technique is now starting to becom obsolete.