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  1. #31

    r5s3cryan daghan kaau ang kalaban No they're not enemies - they are our brothers. And it doesn't mean kung catholic ang tao dautan na daun. Although dili man ko catholic (baptist boy ni hehe) but I have friends - GOOD friends - who are catholics. Nakasulod na pod ko sa catholic church and met a bunch of good fellas who openly welcomed me as a visitor to their church.

    Dili lang unta ta manghusga dayon. Although yes tama man pod na magpoint-out og mali sa uban KUNG based imong proof sa bible. But then again make sure pod na credible ka para mobuhat ana. Kung gusto ninyo mahibalan ang tinuod og ang tama, read the bible. No need to argue.

    But I tell you if God wants you to "not to bow down to idols" then do it. I know we're not perfect but let's take it one step at a time. Plus the bible encourages us to be vigilant. We all have the right to question and to seek out the truth.

    The bible as described by our pastor: "what it says is what it means." Kung feel nimo na mali na jud ning ginabuhat nimo then stop it. Ana mana siya. Yes it's hard na buhaton tanan - lisodan kaau ko na magbago lang gani (hilig gihapon ko mag girl watching hehe ) - pero wala man tay choice ana man jud ang gusto ni Lord.

    So ani na lang para mareconcile tanan. Believe whatever you want to believe as long as you don't break any rules. I know it's hard but the rewards, I'm sure, are tangible.

    NOTE: Gina "worship" diay nako akong "idol" na si Minase Yashiro kay chix kaau hehe peace!

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    HUH? asa man diha nga ang tawo pwedi mu hukom sa iya isig ka tawo if nakasala ba or wala?

    wa man tingali ka kasabot sa verse 5 bro, explainan taka ha...

    "5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

    - Hinloi sah daw ang imu sala before ka mu judge sa uban...pangutana: makahibalo diay tah if nahinlo na atu sala or wala? Tubag: dili, Dios ray nakahibalo ana. So, wala man diay tah kahibalo if wala na ba tay sala or wala so di tah mu qualify to Judge others kay hasta kita mismu wa kahibalo if SAKTO ba kita or DILI.

    Question: Ikaw, nakahibalo na ba ka nga sakto ka or gidawat naka sa DIOS?

    Kung wala, ikaw ni gipasabot sa verse 5 nga "Thou hypocrite"... hehehe

    Peace...
    well ang ibig ko lang namang sabihin dito is pwede mong sabihing mali or judge people na mali ang ginagawa nya kung ikaw mismo ay di guilty sa inihahatol mo.

    Romans 2:21 Ikaw nga na nagtuturo sa iba, hindi mo tinuturuan ang iyong sarili? ikaw na nangangaral sa tao na huwag magnanakaw, ay nagnanakaw ka?

    in this case i dont bow down or worship idols or sculpture.

  3. #33
    r5s3cryan,

    iya ka ni Soriano? nag tatanong lang.

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff702 View Post
    r5s3cryan daghan kaau ang kalaban No they're not enemies - they are our brothers. And it doesn't mean kung catholic ang tao dautan na daun. Although dili man ko catholic (baptist boy ni hehe) but I have friends - GOOD friends - who are catholics. Nakasulod na pod ko sa catholic church and met a bunch of good fellas who openly welcomed me as a visitor to their church.

    Dili lang unta ta manghusga dayon. Although yes tama man pod na magpoint-out og mali sa uban KUNG based imong proof sa bible. But then again make sure pod na credible ka para mobuhat ana. Kung gusto ninyo mahibalan ang tinuod og ang tama, read the bible. No need to argue.

    But I tell you if God wants you to "not to bow down to idols" then do it. I know we're not perfect but let's take it one step at a time. Plus the bible encourages us to be vigilant. We all have the right to question and to seek out the truth.

    The bible as described by our pastor: "what it says is what it means." Kung feel nimo na mali na jud ning ginabuhat nimo then stop it. Ana mana siya. Yes it's hard na buhaton tanan - lisodan kaau ko na magbago lang gani (hilig gihapon ko mag girl watching hehe ) - pero wala man tay choice ana man jud ang gusto ni Lord.

    So ani na lang para mareconcile tanan. Believe whatever you want to believe as long as you don't break any rules. I know it's hard but the rewards, I'm sure, are tangible.

    NOTE: Gina "worship" diay nako akong "idol" na si Minase Yashiro kay chix kaau hehe peace!
    dont worry sanay na ako sa mga taong pilosopo at sa mga taong palalo sa sarili.basta confident akong ipaalam ang nalalaman kong tama sa tao.

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    Brad I am with you all the way. But, if you want to convict someone who do wrong. Please start with your friends... Preaching these people in public manner = embarassment. No body will accept that without a fight... I mean if you have the burden to help others c the light do it with your friends... Forum/Blog is too anonymous your credential is nothing to these people.

    Personal take lang ni nako brothers in Faith.

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by r5s3cryan View Post
    well ang ibig ko lang namang sabihin dito is pwede mong sabihing mali or judge people na mali ang ginagawa nya kung ikaw mismo ay di guilty sa inihahatol mo.

    Romans 2:21 Ikaw nga na nagtuturo sa iba, hindi mo tinuturuan ang iyong sarili? ikaw na nangangaral sa tao na huwag magnanakaw, ay nagnanakaw ka?

    in this case i dont bow down or worship idols or sculpture.
    well meaning ang intention pero nasayop ka sa pagsabot may pag moundang na lang ka!

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by tarpolano View Post
    well meaning ang intention pero nasayop ka sa pagsabot may pag moundang na lang ka!
    ok im giving you the floor
    use the bible and give verse(s) that, it is righteous to kneel down idols...

  8. #38
    ila sad na. pasagdihi na lang gud.

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by r5s3cryan View Post
    ok im giving you the floor
    use the bible and give verse(s) that, it is righteous to kneel down idols...
    murag wala man tingali.. nya naa diay sa bibliya nga dili ampo-an ang imahe ni hesukristo og sa mga santo? lahi ra ba ya na sa imahe sa baka og kanding.. be tagai kuno ko og birsikulo sa bibliya nga dili pwede? aside ana ang dili lang nako ganahan ang imong taras nga mang husga sa ubang tawo tungod kay sa imong pagsabot nya dili na pareha nimo imo dayon husgahan.. ka kuyaw gud nimo.. kinsa gud ka? gino-o ka? pag chure oi.. ayg palabi anang bibliya kay maka huna-huna ka og dili maayo sa imong isig katawo kuyaw na.. basin mag inquisition nya ka.. sayang kaw pa ra ba nag post atong thread na inquisition abi gani nako pareha ka nako athiest. twawawanggg

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by r5s3cryan View Post
    ok im giving you the floor
    use the bible and give verse(s) that, it is righteous to kneel down idols...

    I am not a person who goes with craps like these ... anyway, ask any catholic and they will tell you that they are not worshiping an idol ... now, take it or leave it ... because you have to enter into our catholic psyche to understand it ... or maybe you are like any convert from catholicism to born again or any other who suddenly saw the "light" even before understanding the catholic faith you have just renegaded ... don't worry, even the Holy Spirit can work in that way ... If ever asking for intercessory prayers from those who lived authentic catholic and christian lives,(and we call them saints, as st. paul would also write), is idolatry for you, then for God's sake, stop asking anybody to pray for you! ... now all those who have studied the scriptures would say, and here even many protestant scripturists (go to any christian bookstore and you can find them!), the Bible which to you is the absolute norm, should be accompanied by the SOUND TRADITIONS of the PRIMITIVE CHURCH! basin nakalimot ka nga ang written books of the new testament came many many years after the pentecost? asa na ka ani? samok na kaayo ang mga arguments nga maka divide sa katilingban ... show your good works, and we will believe what you say! without good works, your faith is dead, di man ni akoang words ... kay san pablo.

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