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    Reincarnation is More like a deception. If you consider other religions you have to be good so that you can go to heaven. While in Reincarnation you can be as bad as you can be and still be reborn. So its ok to mess you life take drugs, kill people, be what you can be anyway you can still be "reincarnated" and have another chance.

    Reincarnation = ok to murder people, steal and be what you can be. Anyway we have another chance. to be reborn.

    Heres the question does the reincarnated person exactly the same person as before he was? with 100% recollection of his previous being? they may have delusions of their prev beings like lunatics who think that they are gods in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Reincarnation is More like a deception. If you consider other religions you have to be good so that you can go to heaven. While in Reincarnation you can be as bad as you can be and still be reborn. So its ok to mess you life take drugs, kill people, be what you can be anyway you can still be "reincarnated" and have another chance.

    Reincarnation = ok to murder people, steal and be what you can be. Anyway we have another chance. to be reborn.

    Heres the question does the reincarnated person exactly the same person as before he was? with 100% recollection of his previous being? they may have delusions of their prev beings like lunatics who think that they are gods in the past.
    That's a very nice question sir!

    let us first analyze your statements.

    I beg to disagree with you! Reincarnation is not deception for it is based on the UNIVERSAL LAW OF KARMA. In Karma and Reincarnation, everything is NEUTRAL which means to say GOD does not punish nor reward you. You punish and reward yourself through the CONSEQUENCES of your ACTIONS. If you were bad and commited evil actions, you have to REAP what YOU SOW, No one can escape the LAW of KARMA. It's not ok to mess with your life for there are always NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES and the LAW will always tend to BALANCE everything what has been done. You only have to test the action which produces a reaction whether the effect is immediate or not. Take for example SMOKING. You know that SMOKING IS DANGEROUS TO YOUR HEALTH because it can cause cancer. If you smoke regularly, you don't get the effect of cancer right away but in the long run you will always REAP WHAT YOU SOW (LAW OF KARMA).

    The LAW OF KARMA is not meant to be abused and IGNORANCE OF THIS LAW EXCUSES NO ONE!

    When a person is reincarnated, there are personality and character traits that will manifest as natural when he had his previous life. For example there have been gifted men and women whom we know that when they were small children they had manifested these GIFTS and TALENTS. Just like in the case of MOZART, the CHILD PRODIGY who can compose music symphony at an early age.

    With regards to recollection of his past, no one can recall 100% about his past especailly when he is CONSCIOUS but there is a method to recall our PAST LIFE. It is called REGRESSION THERAPY. You might want to read the work of Dr. Brian Weiss and the scientific research of Dr. Ian Stevenson on Reincarnation!

    I beg to disgagree. In Psychology as a science, those people who were able to recall their PAST LIFE using REGRESSION THERAPY were not considered as LUNATICS or CRAZY but only from RELIGIOUS FANATICS' POV!

    Sources:

    "Many Lives, Many masters" (Dr. Brian Weiss)

    Selected books by Ian Stevenson


    • Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation. (1966). (Second revised and enlarged edition 1974), University of Virginia Press, ISBN 0813908728
    • Cases of the Reincarnation Type Vol. I: Ten Cases in India, (1975). University of Virginia Press.
    • Cases of the Reincarnation Type Vol. II: Ten Cases in Sri Lanka. (197. University of Virginia Press.
    • Cases of the Reincarnation Type Vol. III: Twelve Cases in Lebanon and Turkey. (1980). University of Virginia Press.
    • Cases of the Reincarnation Type Vol. IV: Twelve Cases in Thailand and Burma. (1983). University of Virginia Press.
    • Unlearned Language: New Studies in Xenoglossy. (1984). University of Virginia Press, ISBN 0813909945
    • Reincarnation and Biology: A Contribution to the Etiology of Birthmarks and Birth Defects Volume 1: Birthmarks and Reincarnation and Biology: A Contribution to the Etiology of Birthmarks and Birth Defects Volume 2: Birth Defects and Other Anomalies. (1997). (2 volumes), Praeger Publishers, ISBN 0-275-95282-7
    • Where Reincarnation and Biology Intersect. (1997). Praeger Publishers, ISBN 0-275-95282-7 . (A short and non-technical version of the scientific two-volumes work, for the general reader)
    • Children Who Remember Previous Lives: A Quest of Reincarnation. (2001). McFarland & Company, ISBN 0-7864-0913-4 , (A general non-technical introduction into reincarnation-research)
    • European Cases of the Reincarnation Type. (2003). McFarland & Company, ISBN 0786414588

    Selected articles published by Stevenson in scientific journals

    • "The Explanatory Value of the Idea of Reincarnation" (1977) Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 164:305-326.
    • "American Children Who Claim to Remember Previous Lives" (1983) Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 171:742-748.
    • "The Belief in Reincarnation Among the Igbo of Nigeria" (1985) Journal of Asian and African Studies, XX:13-30.
    • "Characteristics of Cases of the Reincarnation Type Among the Igbo of Nigeria" (1986) Journal of Asian and African Studies, XXI:204-216.
    • "Birthmarks and Birth Defects Corresponding to Wounds on Deceased Persons", (1993). Journal of Scientific Exploration, 7:403-410.
    • (with Cook, E.W., Greyson, B.) (199. "Do Any Near-Death Experiences Provide Evidence for the Survival of Human Personality after Death? Relevant Features and Illustrative Case Reports",Journal of Scientific Exploration, 12(3): 377-406.
    • "Past lives of twins"(1999). Lancet, Apr 17; 353(9161):1359-60. (Letter to editor)
    • "The phenomenon of claimed memories of previous lives: possible interpretations and importance"(2000). Medical Hypotheses, 54(4), 652-659.
    • "Ropelike Birthmarks on Children Who Claim to Remember Past Lives" (2001). Psychological Reports, Aug 89(1):142-144.
    • (with Pasricha, S.K., Keil, J. and J.B. Tucker), (2005). "Some Bodily Malformations Attributed to Previous Lives" Journal of Scientific Exploration 19(3):359-383.


    Books and articles about Ian Stevenson


    • Fox, Margalit. (2007). "Ian Stevenson, Academic Psychiatrist Who Studied Claims of Past Lives, Dies at 88." New York Times, February 18, p. 27.
    • Shroder, Tom (1999). Old Souls: The Scientific Evidence for Past Lives.
    • Tucker, Jim B. (2005). Life Before Life: A Scientific Investigation of Children's Memories of Previous Lives.



    Ian Stevenson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Reincarnation is More like a deception. If you consider other religions you have to be good so that you can go to heaven. While in Reincarnation you can be as bad as you can be and still be reborn. So its ok to mess you life take drugs, kill people, be what you can be anyway you can still be "reincarnated" and have another chance.

    Reincarnation = ok to murder people, steal and be what you can be. Anyway we have another chance. to be reborn.

    Heres the question does the reincarnated person exactly the same person as before he was? with 100% recollection of his previous being? they may have delusions of their prev beings like lunatics who think that they are gods in the past.
    whether reincarnation is deception or not, you will still reincarnate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    unsa daw? hehe
    He just said, well everything is recycled and smiled.
    Then I made up a conclusion... kato tingale nang mga gisawilik, gitrapo sa tissue, gi-tulon or naa gibutang sa nawng.

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    ^ nice one!!! gisawilik!!! hahaha!

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    super OT:
    matud pa sa akong P.E. teacher pag high school,
    "it's" lifespan is averaged at 72 hours, but, there are those who die almost instantaneously, mangabali ang li-og, class.

    ha? nganu gd sir?

    aw, kato diay'ng mga nasawilik sa bungbong

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    And then, by law of karma, of their right to live, they get reincarnated. hehehe mao na siya ang explanation schmuck hahaha

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    naa koy bag-ong nabasahan bahin aning death. ang concept kay inig kamatay sa tawo susama ra sa katong wala pa sya mabuhi. mao na nga dili nimo angay kahadlukan ang pagkamatay kay wala na kay bati-on pa, pareha ra na sa katong wala pa ka gipakatawo.

  9. #589
    if you believe in God, death is not the end...

    it is just the beginning... you are going to start your real life, your life with your Ultimate Creator

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    super OT:
    matud pa sa akong P.E. teacher pag high school,
    "it's" lifespan is averaged at 72 hours, but, there are those who die almost instantaneously, mangabali ang li-og, class.

    ha? nganu gd sir?

    aw, kato diay'ng mga nasawilik sa bungbong
    sama sa vandal sa elementary CR sauna naay "graveyard" naka sulat....kusog man mag boarding diddto gud.

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