Yemeni plane crashes with 150 aboard

[Dorothea]

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im taking the boat to manila.

MV Princess of the Stars? of the Sun? r'member?

Just stay home.

[rodsky]

How does turbulence bring an aircraft down? Doesn't it interfere with the plane's electronic, electromagnetic signal/power whatchatmacallit? It makes the plane lose power completely and crash. What if Dr. Evil came up with a device that interferes with the plane's power? shutting it off completely? Doesn't seem far-fetched to me. But of course, I know nothing about planes.

The only way for turbulence to bring an aircraft down is if it's violent enough to cause structural damage (i.e. wing tearing off, etc). The only way for an aircraft powered by turbofan engines (like in the A310) to lose engine power while in cruise, is:

a) it runs out of fuel
b) if something gets physically ingested in the engine (i.e. bird strike, etc.)
c) the pilot reduces the throttle to idle

Dr. Evil doesn't exist. Ergo, the device you mentioned doesn't exist, and yes, it's far-fetched.

-RODION

[Dorothea]

Can a person hack into a plane's computer sytem and bring down the aircraft that way? If modern science makes it possible to make a car stop remotely, then it must be within the realms of possibility to do that with planes as well.

Rodsky, you're the science guy, come up with something! Otherwise, I'll be forced to declare that the Decepticons did it.

[rodsky]

Can a person hack into a plane's computer sytem and bring down the aircraft that way? If modern science makes it possible to make a car stop remotely, then it must be within the realms of possibility to do that with planes as well.

Unfortunately, the way you envision aircraft control systems and its avionics aren't what they're like in real life. And how do you make a car stop remotely? And will that method work with a 1979 Mitsubishi Lancer? Give me an example please.

Rodsky, you're the science guy, come up with something! Otherwise, I'll be forced to declare that the Decepticons did it.

Yes, the Decepticons did it.

-RODION

[penigabz]

The only way for turbulence to bring an aircraft down is if it's violent enough to cause structural damage (i.e. wing tearing off, etc). The only way for an aircraft powered by turbofan engines (like in the A310) to lose engine power while in cruise, is:

a) it runs out of fuel
b) if something gets physically ingested in the engine (i.e. bird strike, etc.)
c) the pilot reduces the throttle to idle

Dr. Evil doesn't exist. Ergo, the device you mentioned doesn't exist, and yes, it's far-fetched.

-RODION

Bright Boy lagi kaau ka manulti bro? ru a Military Enthusiast? OR a Personnel jud? Sweto ka bout SAM's means Surface to Air Missile ug uban pang mga kagamitan kabahin sa Modern Military Technologies. Na kurioso jud ko pag ayo. Making a Plane crash by remote is now possible na bro. mga UAV parehas sa global hawk ug predator plane. Dili jud kalikayan na Terrorist Attack maoy huna2x dayon sa mga tao. hehehehe

[rodsky]

Bright Boy lagi kaau ka manulti bro? ru a Military Enthusiast? OR a Personnel jud? Sweto ka bout SAM's means Surface to Air Missile ug uban pang mga kagamitan kabahin sa Modern Military Technologies. Na kurioso jud ko pag ayo. Making a Plane crash by remote is now possible na bro. mga UAV parehas sa global hawk ug predator plane. Dili jud kalikayan na Terrorist Attack maoy huna2x dayon sa mga tao. hehehehe

Making an airliner crash remotely is different from making an airliner crash due to collision with a remotely piloted aircraft (i.e. UAV). Current airliners, by default, have absolutely no system in place for it to be controlled remotely. If this were possible, then that emergency two weeks ago (involving a pilot that suffered cardiac arrest and died in flight), would have been simplified by the ATC/control tower controlling and flying the aircraft remotely back to a safe landing. But no, the aircraft was still piloted and landed by the F/O and another pilot who was on deadhead. So your comparison of airliners and UAVs is best described as comparing apples to oranges.

I'm no expert. I'm just holding crap at bay as I wait for "meaty" input from Tarmac and/or PissKhanXXX on the matter.

-RODION

[penigabz]

Making an airliner crash remotely is different from making an airliner crash due to collision with a remotely piloted aircraft (i.e. UAV). Current airlines, by default, have absolutely no system in place for it to be controlled remotely. If this were possible, then that emergency two weeks ago (involving a pilot that suffered cardiac arrest and died in flight), would have been simplified by the ATC/control tower controlling and flying the aircraft remotely back to a safe landing. But no, the aircraft was still piloted and landed by the F/O and another pilot who was on deadhead.

-RODION

O bro, naka dungog ko aning balita-a na namatay ang piloto samtang na lawig sila sa kahanginan. Akong pasabot kabahin aning remotely na pag guide sa mga abyon ni exist na, gani lang sa mga military aircraft ra ni applicable. Example lang bro ha, USS Abraham Lincoln Aircraft carrier naa ni silay guiding system sa ilang mga aircraft na mo automatically land sa ilang mga eroplano labi kung gabie kay mag lisod jud ang mga piloto anang mga panahona. Ang pag pa lupad pud pina-agi sa CATAPULT LUNCH SYSTEM sa Aircraft Carrier is controlled by computers. Pero wala cguro jud ni gi apply na systema sa mga commercial airlines tungod sa mga hulga na basin tu-od gimiton ni sa mga di maayong buhat. Pasensya na bro kung akong tubag dili English, sagol2x ra kay dili jud kaau ko hanas ana. hehehe

[rodsky]

O bro, naka dungog ko aning balita-a na namatay ang piloto samtang na lawig sila sa kahanginan. Akong pasabot kabahin aning remotely na pag guide sa mga abyon ni exist na, gani lang sa mga military aircraft ra ni applicable. Example lang bro ha, USS Abraham Lincoln Aircraft carrier naa ni silay guiding system sa ilang mga aircraft na mo automatically land sa ilang mga eroplano labi kung gabie kay mag lisod jud ang mga piloto anang mga panahona. Ang pag pa lupad pud pina-agi sa CATAPULT LUNCH SYSTEM sa Aircraft Carrier is controlled by computers. Pero wala cguro jud ni gi apply na systema sa mga commercial airlines tungod sa mga hulga na basin tu-od gimiton ni sa mga di maayong buhat. Pasensya na bro kung akong tubag dili English, sagol2x ra kay dili jud kaau ko hanas ana. hehehe

That's precisely my point. We are not talking about military avionics or systems. We're talking about systems implemented in airliners. Wala ma'y nag deny nga ga-exist ang remotely-piloted aerial vehicles. We were discussing its application on airliners, and I'm afraid that such systems do not exist.

-RODION

[penigabz]

That's precisely my point. We are not talking about military avionics or systems. We're talking about systems implemented in airliners. Wala ma'y nag deny nga ga-exist ang remotely-piloted aerial vehicles. We were discussing its application on airliners, and I'm afraid that such systems do not exist.

-RODION

Mao ba? Pastilan jud d ay ning National Geographic Na documentary. Binuang ra d ay to ilaha...tsk tsk tsk. By d way bro, ikaw man to ga Buhat sa Thread na Titled Phil. Airforce one of the Weakest in The World?

[rodsky]

Mao ba? Pastilan jud d ay ning National Geographic Na documentary. Binuang ra d ay to ilaha...tsk tsk tsk. By d way bro, ikaw man to ga Buhat sa Thread na Titled Phil. Airforce one of the Weakest in The World?

Nope, flanker started that thread.

-RODION