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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    In Eastern Philosophy, man is believed to be inherently good. But this goodness, in due time are obscured by envy, hate, prejudice, covetousness and the likes. Once this obscuration are understood and eliminated, we then revert back to our inherent goodness. All this are achievable without any intervention from deities.

    Peace!
    u trust too much of urself, ur strenght and ur knowledge..

    hopefully u can resist this u said : in due time are obscured by envy, hate, prejudice, covetousness and the likes.

    and
    Once this obscuration are understood and eliminated,we then revert back to our inherent goodness
    gudluck!

    u dont need GOD ( hopefully u can defy death as well )

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    So you guys directly against them or just not with them but not against them?
    against them? who's them? nobody's against anybody, hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butitoy View Post
    yes..we're not evil..

    we are not gods either.

    we are what we are. created by someone higher in nature.

    before there was law..we are as we are..good human according to our personal gauge.

    but not anymore. we are sinners.


    So, why did Jesus say in John 10:34 "You are gods?"

    Jesus answered them, "Has it not been written in your Law, 'I
    said, you are gods'?
    If he called them gods, to whom the word
    of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of
    Him, whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You
    are blaspheming,' because I said, 'I am the Son of God'?" (John
    10:34-36).

    Can you comment on this passage on John 10:34?

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    Quote Originally Posted by butitoy View Post
    u trust too much of urself, ur strenght and ur knowledge..

    hopefully u can resist this u said : in due time are obscured by envy, hate, prejudice, covetousness and the likes.

    and

    gudluck!

    u dont need GOD ( hopefully u can defy death as well )
    Did I say I don't need GOD? I am ONE with GOD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    resist no evil -Christ-

    one of the steps to sainthood..
    In Vedanta Philosophy, evil is just an illusion and therefore, ignorance of your true nature is the root of suffering!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    really everything jud?..hehe

    hmmmmmmm i dont need a priest to ask about it when i can get so many ideas from you..

    "which we call evil is merely ignorance and that good is that which everyone desires" -The Philosophy of Socrates-



    hmmmmmm well good is an absence of evil deeds man sad so dapat naay neuter.. its like there is no such thing as cold or hot.. you believe about the duality theory nya opposite au ka ug gipangstorya sa theory..hmmmmmm that's quite weird..

    naa nsad ka ask nsad ka question wala pa gani ka tubag if unsa lagi naa sa tao why mubuhat jud siya ug sin even though kabaw cya nga sayop.. hehe



    well you can't say that its not nature of man to commit sin sad.. you said if man can commit sin that doesn't mean he is evil?.. sureness nga all negative intentional moral acts are evil man.. but that doesn't answer my question what is in man that he can't resist to commit sin man jud?..
    It is just like asking this question: What makes a chair a chair? what makes a thing, a thing or a man a man? That is ESSENCE my friend and ESSENCE has nothing to do with EVIL and in philosophy, essence is the attribute or set of attributes that make an object or substance what it fundamentally is, and which it has by necessity, and without which it loses its identity.

    The question is what is man and what composes man? Man is compose of MIND, BODY and SPIRIT.

    Question: Are MIND, BODY and SPIRIT fundamentally EVIL? Are they fundamentally GOOD? In ESSENCE, MIND, BODY and SPIRIT are fundamentally GOOD. WHy? because they are not accident.
    Essence is contrasted with accident: a property that the object or substance has contingently, without which the substance can still retain its identity. If they are not acident, what are they? EVIL?

    Everything in NATURE is fundamentally GOOD. Even the LAW of DUALITY is a PERFECT LAW and therefore fundamentally GOOD!

    BTW, I am not talking about morality here about good or bad which is not absolute when I say fundamentally GOOD but rather I refer it to to the ESSENCE itself!
    Last edited by regnauld; 06-30-2009 at 02:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    against them? who's them? nobody's against anybody, hands.
    The new age guys... that's why I was asking, fish only gave an outline of Theosophy's ideas and did not directly concluded if you guys are with them or against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    It is just like asking this question: What makes a chair a chair? what makes a thing, a thing or a man a man? That is ESSENCE my friend and ESSENCE has nothing to do with EVIL and in philosophy, essence is the attribute or set of attributes that make an object or substance what it fundamentally is, and which it has by necessity, and without which it loses its identity.

    The question is what is man and what composes man? Man is compose of MIND, BODY and SPIRIT.

    Question: Are MIND, BODY and SPIRIT fundamentally EVIL? Are they fundamentally GOOD? In ESSENCE, MIND, BODY and SPIRIT are fundamentally GOOD. WHy? because they are not accident.
    Essence is contrasted with accident: a property that the object or substance has contingently, without which the substance can still retain its identity. If they are not acident, what are they? EVIL?
    if man commits evil does it changes its attributes/composition?.. does it changes man into something that he can't be called as man?.. if yes what will he be then?.. man can be evil yet he is still a man that doesn't change any attributes in him thus his essence.. very nice!..

    deli jud cla accident alangan attribute/composition man kaha na cla..nyahahaha naa dai na sa philosophy nga Good na cla?.. ikaw ikaw raman nagsulti good na cla oi buot buot sad ka dah..hehe

    pero kabantay ko naabot natag essence when i was just talking on Evil nature of man..hehe kaaligre sad nimo kastorya oi..



    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Everything in NATURE is fundamentally GOOD. Even the LAW of DUALITY is a PERFECT LAW and therefore fundamentally GOOD!

    BTW, I am not talking about morality here about good or bad which is not absolute when I say fundamentally GOOD but rather I refer it to to the ESSENCE itself!
    in the law of duality Good and Evil is not separable.. in fact both can't exist without the each other.. now why would you say it's just all Good there nga d mana cla mabuwag..

    you said nature sad sa man makasala dba?.. according nsad nimo krn "Everything in NATURE is fundamentally GOOD" was making sin Good then?.. wow nice!..

    but again you're storming ideas nsad nga layo na au sa ako question.. so what's in man that he can't resist to commit sin?.. <<--- imo pani tubagon mahuman ni daun..
    Last edited by dartzed; 06-30-2009 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    In Vedanta Philosophy, evil is just an illusion and therefore, ignorance of your true nature is the root of suffering!
    well in Vedanta Philosophy of yours tells that evil does not exist unfortunately so as good.. Vedanta Philosophy simply is following the law of duality which means one thing Good and Evil are not separable.. an absence of one of them is the absence of both..

    i think you have some issues regarding knowing too much, just a hunch though..
    Last edited by dartzed; 06-30-2009 at 03:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    The new age guys... that's why I was asking, fish only gave an outline of Theosophy's ideas and did not directly concluded if you guys are with them or against them.
    ah ok. tell you what, these so-called new age mumbo-jumbo are crackpots who may/may not know of a thing or two and then flaunt what they've discovered without checking the sources. their "newly picked up flowers at the sidewalk" are controlling them instead of focusing on the Path. gi-career na nila ang mga conspiracy theories, pseudo-occult, and power-power. and that is slowly destroying them because gi-indulge man nila ilang kaugalingon diha anang mga butanga.

    Theosophy is not like that. Theosophy is never like that. there's nothing new age about it because it's an Ancient Divine Wisdom, and ageless wisdom taught by mystics and sages of old.

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