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    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    motoo gyud mi as believers,, kay as what the saints and the church reveals to us,there is a supernatural GOD that governs to us,, heaven and hell are real my friend..think about the facts here!
    what facts?

    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    if they dont believe why would they profess it?
    good question.

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    Is there such thing as desbelievers who go to heaven and hell? What is it in belief that you go somewhere out there?

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    There is no excuse actually... have you ever heard or seen of a person who came back that from the dead and tells you that there is heaven and hell? That's no excuse that is a FACT that it hasn't been debunked as FALSE. Otherwise, do you?

    DEATH will always be the reality but judgement? I don't think there is judgement after you die... why? let's go back to the same question, Have you heard or seen of a person who came back from the dead and tells you that there is heaven and hell?

    My skepticism will always play a great value for me because this will only prove me that I am wrong if it answered the proper way.
    Jesus Christ did comeback from the dead, he proves it to his apostles...so you are wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SORBETES View Post
    what facts?

    Our Lord

    good question.
    this makes sense arent you?

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    Jesus Christ did comeback from the dead, he proves it to his apostles...so you are wrong!
    Well, I could be but if comes back again then I am definitely wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    Jesus Christ did comeback from the dead, he proves it to his apostles...so you are wrong!
    Osiris, Horus, Dionysius, Mithras came back from the dead too! That's nothing new! Are you saying those gods were wrong when they came back from the dead too?

  7. #37
    Ok, so I am a believer.
    This question went through my head while I was reading the Qur'an, "disbelievers shall perish in Hell".
    Even the the 1st commandment in the Bible says, 'have no other God but me'.
    But i also remembered the Bible saying that those that instinctively obey God will be acceptable to Him.
    I mean if you havn't done anything wrong, like you have respected the law etc.
    Where do u fall?
    If you die, would you go to Hell for not believing in him?
    This has nothing to do with intelligence or academic knowledge or religion.
    Where do non believers go after they die? coz if what the holy book is saying is true, then I feel sad for them.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by pigrah View Post
    What if theres someone who doesnt believe in GOD, an aethiest perhaps, is like a saint?

    Someone who is almost perfect. Someone who doesnt do evil things but wont believe in God.
    Gives donations, faithful to his wife/husband, compassionate to people, doesnt swear, helps in any way he can possible, respects others and nature, all good character named, s/he possesses it.

    But the Bible or Qur'an says the disbelievers shall perish in hell.
    does someone as good as that count?



    PS
    i dunno if there is already a thread similar to this, but if there is, feel free to del it, if there isnt, feel free to leave ur thoughts. thanks.
    what?disbelievers?i think you mean unbelievers or an atheist...

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by pingforpresident View Post
    what?disbelievers?i think you mean unbelievers or an atheist...
    o cge gud unbelievers or if u want me to be more specific rejects belief, not believe, not worthy of belief, doubt, skeptic...unsa paman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pigrah View Post
    o cge gud unbelievers or if u want me to be more specific rejects belief, not believe, not worthy of belief, doubt, skeptic...unsa paman?
    ic ang imong pangutana para diay na sa pareha nimo og pagtuo. sa akong pasabot nangutana ka kung asa mo-ad2 ang buotan nga tawo pero dili mo-tuo sa gino-o ninyo. aw sayon tubagon diba naa man ten commandments nya ang numero uno nga commandment kay dapat motuo mo sa gino-o so maskin imo pang sundon ang siyam nga uban commandments pero wala sa numero uno aw impyerno jud. pero dili pa ka moad2 sa impyerno dayon2x kay inig kamatay nimo hulaton pa nga mona-og pa si hesukristo gikan sa langit.. nya karon 2009 pa wala pa jud sya munaog nya murag wala pa may signus nga munaog sya mao na nga maghulat2x pa jud mo og pila pa ka tuig basin milyons o bilions of years...

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