If there is no God, Who Governs Right or Wrong?

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Mura ug tipal-o lolz.

So where is that humble chance of conceding?

you tell me, hands. i don't even know what you're talking about anymore.

[kebot]

Sir, I think you have to research more on these claims because smoking pot is a threat to your health.


Actually Kim isn't their god. What they see on him is future of their race but not all believed in him because 80% of their population live in poverty. He isn't atheist also because COMMUNISM is considered religion. 20% of the population think that what they do is right. What you see, you're basing your moral standards on them then it isn't right. My question[s] now, What if you are a nokor? Would you justify right and wrong while your leaders are following communism?

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Sir, I think you have to research more on these claims because smoking pot is a threat to your health.
- I have seen a documentary About marijuana... still there is no convincing evidence that marijuana is bad.

Ok heres how it goes,
Is marijuana bad for your health?

Marijuana smoke contains many of the same carcinogens and toxins found in tobacco smoke, sometimes in higher concentrations. The daily use or intake of one to three joints or ‘cones’, appears to produce the same lung diseases and potential cancer risks as smoking five times as many cigarettes.

Marijuana: The risks to your health :: ABC South Australia

Well the danger is not about marijuana its about smoking... (sometimes in higher concentrations.
) see the difference sometimes not most of the times... Worst is Cigar. I tell you i havent heard of someone diagnosed of lung/mouth/throat cancer because of marijuana... its because of smoking. I do smoke but never on weed.

Communism is Religion? Well its better accepted in this statement. "Communism suppress Religion". KIM Not thier god? Well they pray for him... have you seen the documentary in Discovery Channel. You must have missed it.

=What if you are a nokor? Would you justify right and wrong while your leaders are following communism?
-thats not my point. my point is SOCIETY DICTATES RIGHT and Wrong based to what is accepted presented by the man/men in power. If they behave like it because they were taught to do so.

that is why if you say we are good on our own about RIGHT or Wrong. I am not convinced. We are just fortunate people are still on the line and that line is extending so much.

Must look at this topic to be precise.... we cannot talk about communism because we do not experience the feeling.

What about ABORTION. Please state why it is right or wrong.

[ace_ndahouse]

i couldnt agree more

[kebot]

ill open a new thread then... lets see what you guys can say...

[tripwire]

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Sir, I think you have to research more on these claims because smoking pot is a threat to your health.
- I have seen a documentary About marijuana... still there is no convincing evidence that marijuana is bad.

Ok heres how it goes,
Is marijuana bad for your health?

Marijuana smoke contains many of the same carcinogens and toxins found in tobacco smoke, sometimes in higher concentrations. The daily use or intake of one to three joints or ‘cones’, appears to produce the same lung diseases and potential cancer risks as smoking five times as many cigarettes.

Marijuana: The risks to your health :: ABC South Australia

Sir, that write up is 6 years old. You have to update yourself to 2009. Try researching CDC websites, they are updated. Also, that's one of the reason why it's illegal to most country because there are causes of ill-effect. You just said it yourself that there is potential cancer risks as smoking...

Well the danger is not about marijuana its about smoking... (sometimes in higher concentrations.) see the difference sometimes not most of the times... Worst is Cigar. I tell you i havent heard of someone diagnosed of lung/mouth/throat cancer because of marijuana... its because of smoking. I do smoke but never on weed.

To be frank sir kebot and I think you have misled by others as well. Marijuana slows down your brain and reflexes, and does kill brain cells. If you know any "stoners" then you know they are pretty dumb. People who smoke a lot of marijuana have mood problems also. Marijuana is addictive, which means that the more you smoke, the more you want to smoke. Damage caused by marijuana is usually permanent. In addition, people who use illegal drugs like marijuana usually break other laws as well - they steal and lie and cheat in order to get more drugs - and that leads to going to jail, which can also be bad for you!

I know this because I work in a Hospital and I am a nurse.

Communism is Religion? Well its better accepted in this statement. "Communism suppress Religion". KIM Not thier god? Well they pray for him... have you seen the documentary in Discovery Channel. You must have missed it.

Don't you think that COMMUNISM IS A STATE OF BELIEF? These people are so much convinced about their "believe" that they fiercely challenge you if you only try to criticize their "believe" (their "religion"). "In praise of our leaders", "Following the rules of the Great Chairman".

=What if you are a nokor? Would you justify right and wrong while your leaders are following communism?
-thats not my point. my point is SOCIETY DICTATES RIGHT and Wrong based to what is accepted presented by the man/men in power. If they behave like it because they were taught to do so.

Right or wrong is relative. Meaning society does not govern morality. Society shouldn't even be collectively seen as a moral entity. It should be seen as a community of people that have individual ideas. If they collectively believe that murder is right, that doesn't make murder right. If it is acceptable to kill someone unjustly in the society... the fact that we can even discern the idea of things being just and unjust proves that murder is universally wrong.

that is why if you say we are good on our own about RIGHT or Wrong. I am not convinced. We are just fortunate people are still on the line and that line is extending so much.

Must look at this topic to be precise.... we cannot talk about communism because we do not experience the feeling.

What about ABORTION. Please state why it is right or wrong.

What's there to convince? apparently right or wrong is dependent on your own. Society does not dictate that your behavior towards your fellowmen are awkward and rudely blatant, that's your choice. Your personal choice!

Of course we don't have experiences about communism BUT we can discuss it and read more about it. The fact is that we enough good understanding about communism. Communism is not governed by society either it's a choice chosen by their leaders.

Abortion? What about it? In christian world it is immoral but universally we know that is life taken and it's universally wrong.

[Lovely Charm]

Please govern yourself properly,,utilise whatever you have,,dont wait for your god to do it for you.

[handsoff241]

you tell me, hands. i don't even know what you're talking about anymore.

Mao na dha, you tried slapping me with sarcasm nya nalimot na ka.

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Mao na dha, you tried slapping me with sarcasm nya nalimot na ka.

really? sarcasm jud? could you refresh me please? is this smiley bothering you?

[handsoff241]

To make it simplier for you ... without CONSCIENCE , the KNOWLEDGE is neutral when it is set MORALLY if it is right or wrong . Get it ?

No, conscience exist as a reminder, knowledge will tell you what is right or wrong for it is on our knowledge that we declare what is right or wrong, knowing is perceiving, decisions arise from factors foreign to us. Conscience is innate, as you have said, a "natural" accessory of man. How can an "innate" factor be the reason for our comprehension of good or right when the goodness and the wrongness we are apprehending or trying to apprehend are outside stimulus of our perception? We need to know before we can tell what is right or wrong.

Knowledge is dictates what is right or wrong, not consciousness.

you can ask any ATHEIST that they too can relate the 10 COmmandments except for the first 3 . They need not know who made it , why it was made or who is it for . Bottom line , it is against their morals and to the neighbors because the conscience says so .

See, because they know of that commandment and because they are AWARE(Knowing) of the morals of their neighbors and of the world.


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n a literal understanding to your perception , you are right . I was referring to everytime you discover new things , you generate KNOWLEDGE . You have to discover first before you gain knowledge . You were not born in this world and knew everything already unlike CONSCIENCE , the moment nagka " BUOT " ka , you knew which is RIGHT and WRONG w/o discrimination and bias of whatever it is .

OMG! I never imagined a child knowing what is wrong and right at the very moment he was born! You can't even compose your own thinking how much more generate a second consciousness(consciousness)?!

Is that even possible? If a child knows what he is doing, of what is wrong or right, we don't need to understand them then if they commit mistakes, we need to punish them as we do with adults who knows. Are you even thinking?

Like I said also , have a new scenario . SOmething that is worth talking about since by using HOLY WATER as a accessory , it doesnt relate anything at all to what we are talking about . To make it more funny , we are talking about the ABSENCE of GOD so we are left in determining what is RIGHT or WRONG bound only for ourselves without the MORALS of the CHRISTIANS you are leaning on .

I am not begging from you a scenario, mine was enough example and you are wasting it by taking it wrong. You completely missed my explanation, that I intened to disregard the Catholic church and faith as to maintain track that our topic is about unbiased knowing of what is right or wrong.

OK le me ask you this , how will a person who is a NO READ and NO WRITE set himself or herself in the society as an HONEST CITIZEN since dili ta mo gamit ug GOOD CHRISTIAN una?

Regardless of the fact that he can't read nor right, he still knows. His/Her inability to read or write will not hinder his ability to know what is good or bad. My nanay is illeterate she can't even read the PUJ's route number, but she knows, for a fact and for 3 generations, what is right or wrong. She KNOWS and out of her conscience she reminds us.

[handsoff241]

really? sarcasm jud? could you refresh me please? is this smiley bothering you?

lol no not the smiley but the original posts. you are not reg, i deem your smiley true when you post them hhahahahaah amawa jud ani niya oi cge mo ug istorya ni reg sa? misumbong tingale to nimo nga gisamokan ko sa iyang smiley, that's what friends are for.