If there is no God, Who Governs Right or Wrong?

[kebot]

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please improve your comprehension skills. palihug lang.
what has the most livable cities got to do regarding my post about religion and RIGHT and WRONG.


i blame religion?? stop putting words in my mouth. such slanderous is not expected from a christian, so i thought. refer to my first POST, as an observation sabi ko...

i dont have to disprove the others, sweden and norway alone counts against you. nor the rest of the list. if religiosity determines most livable places, how come PINAS and countless others are not.



who's majority members are INACTIVE. and you dare count this countries as RELIGIOUS countries. ASA?


unfortunately your god didnt write the bible did he?she?it? such literature is from words of MEN.


such countries like the Philippines. does that mean living in PINAS is BAD? lulz
ikaw ray ga una una ug react about religion is BAD just because wala ko ni agree. lulz



poor analogy. does that warrant you to MOCK other beliefs such as that new age movent just to make your SUKI look good? nag mamalinis ka pa.



which do you think is more dangerous...
a nutjob atheist who tells you to kill for his selfish cause?
or a nutjob believer who tells you to kill because GOD WILLS IT/GOD's cause?<---which goes back to the question:

"Does God saying something is right make it right?"

if the answer is "yes" then God is arbitrary, and thus not loving, and if the answer is "No" then right and wrong had to exist prior to God and He is not all powerful.



does that sound right to you?

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Nah I don't wana debate anymore brad.

Lets just conclude it...

You win i loose.

Sorry for the offense.

[grovestreet]

hehe... okay

[ace_ndahouse]

hehehe... you cant put an end to those who know the TRUTH kebot... might as well be a free thinker.. ooops its up to you ra na hap..hehehe

[Traditz]

If there's no God, I guess we can govern ourselves according to laws we have made ourselves. In that case, our laws would be subjective.

If there's no God, I don't think there would be a transcendent and objective foundation for morality.

[Sinyalan]

If there's no God, I guess we can govern ourselves according to laws we have made ourselves. In that case, our laws would be subjective.

Ever since the advent of monotheism the human race has been in danger. Slowly they are losing the ability of taking responsibility for their own actions. "The devil made me do it", "god cursed man and woman", "we are born sinful". All these things add up and are expressed on fears that there is something out there who will punish you or deemed in hell because god says it. I find that a scapegoat for taking liability for your behavior. Each of us have a choice but it depends on growth not inane on religious dogmas.

If there's no God, I don't think there would be a transcendent and objective foundation for morality.

Your actions decide who you are, not words. 'Morality' is dependent on a person. Not society. Each individual decides what is right or wrong. It is not society's choice to decide or religion.

[handsoff241]

Nah I don't wana debate anymore brad.

Lets just conclude it...

You win i loose.

Sorry for the offense.

Bot what's this... is this the reason why you left WoW? To be defeated...? Your concession, considering that it is a debate of an atheist and a Catholic, can be interpreted by others, especially the agnostics, that the Catholic(Christian) church somehow has weak points and non-factual teachings.

But I don't know if you are a Catholic or not, but rest assured you are a Christian, still it is not healthy, your statement is not healthy.

[bungot25]

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Nah I don't wana debate anymore brad.

Lets just conclude it...

You win i loose.

Sorry for the offense.

muray dangat aning istoryaha!!! LOL

[kebot]

Bot what's this... is this the reason why you left WoW? To be defeated...? Your concession, considering that it is a debate of an atheist and a Catholic, can be interpreted by others, especially the agnostics, that the Catholic(Christian) church somehow has weak points and non-factual teachings.

But I don't know if you are a Catholic or not, but rest assured you are a Christian, still it is not healthy, your statement is not healthy.

Hands, don't get me wrong brad. They are asking my Christian values. I give them compassion and respect out of love... I don't expect the same way from them.

I had given them a good argument I guess. I think its up to them to evaluate if my accusation is right or wrong to them. To me my peace is what matters most. I cannot force them to do things, we are not living in a communist country brad. Let them win if that matters to them. I found my peace with my belief, I do not have to argue with them.

Now i get it, the more you force them the more they stay away. Again its their choice, and we have a choice... I choose my peace brad.

The Athiest and Gnostic Complained already same as we did. But it will never end brad as long as people get hurt. I won't be a part of their sufferings brad or anything that annoys them, for me its enough that I gave them an argument that people can check their own background.

Thank you Christians for following the thread. God Bless you all. May you find PEACE among yourselves...

[handsoff241]

@That's not my point bot.

[Lovely Charm]

Hands, don't get me wrong brad. They are asking my Christian values. I give them compassion and respect out of love... I don't expect the same way from them.

I had given them a good argument I guess. I think its up to them to evaluate if my accusation is right or wrong to them. To me my peace is what matters most. I cannot force them to do things, we are not living in a communist country brad. Let them win if that matters to them. I found my peace with my belief, I do not have to argue with them.

Now i get it, the more you force them the more they stay away. Again its their choice, and we have a choice... I choose my peace brad.

The Athiest and Gnostic Complained already same as we did. But it will never end brad as long as people get hurt. I won't be a part of their sufferings brad or anything that annoys them, for me its enough that I gave them an argument that people can check their own background.

Thank you Christians for following the thread. God Bless you all. May you find PEACE among yourselves...

i really admire your choice of peace over heated argumnets, over who will be declared as right & wrong, i salute u sir