If there is no God, Who Governs Right or Wrong?

[kebot]

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please, by all means keep the FAITH. dont use that as your scapegoat. nobody is holding you back regarding such BELIEF. stick to the topic.

well, if you prefer the 2 edged sword(so oldskul, CRUSADES oldskul)...i like to use GUNs to give it a more modern feel.


which really is about the point i'm implying.
we have religion NOW like before. we have god centered states/countries NOW same with before.

can you spot any significant observations? most religious countries...well you'll find these countries are on the brink of poverty, high crime rate, and corrupt. RIGHT or WRONG you ask? religion is either ineffective or just plain dud. its not the religion's fault by the way, its the hands pulling its strings...MEN, not GOD.

same sh!t different packaging.

Now you're serious. I want to see the glory of your full knowledge....(PAUSE) feel right?

Ok.

can you spot any significant observations? most religious countries...well you'll find these countries are on the brink of poverty, high crime rate, and corrupt. <---------- FAIL you don't deserve my recognition

Check this Out: Please Observe ("can you spot any significant observations?")
1. Iceland
2. Norway
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Ireland,
6. Sweden,
7. Switzerland
8. Netherlands

and so-on and so-fort. What did you notice?

First of all these are countries right?
They are the most livable Countries.
They are the Top8 Livable Countries in the world.
They are all dominantly CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

you FAIL BIG TIME BRAD. Your Proof does not qualifies your CLAIM. (poverty, high crime rate, and corrupt).
Bsin d pod ka kadawat ani? You see it seems your brain fail you as expected.

Do you still Claim that RELIGION MAKES A COUNTRY Corrupt? ANESAY LANG BRAD? do you? if you say yes, then you are lying to your self.

[bungot25]

Now you're serious. I want to see the glory of your full knowledge....(PAUSE) feel right?

Ok.

can you spot any significant observations? most religious countries...well you'll find these countries are on the brink of poverty, high crime rate, and corrupt. <---------- FAIL you don't deserve my recognition

Check this Out: Please Observe ("can you spot any significant observations?")
1. Iceland
2. Norway
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Ireland,
6. Sweden,
7. Switzerland
8. Netherlands

and so-on and so-fort. What did you notice?

First of all these are countries right?
They are the most livable Countries.
They are the Top8 Livable Countries in the world.
They are all dominantly CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

you FAIL BIG TIME BRAD. Your Proof does not qualifies your CLAIM. (poverty, high crime rate, and corrupt).
Bsin d pod ka kadawat ani? You see it seems your brain fail you as expected.

Do you still Claim that RELIGION MAKES A COUNTRY Corrupt? ANESAY LANG BRAD? do you? if you say yes, then you are lying to your self.

OMG mr MUNSTER has been refuted!!

[kebot]

OMG mr MUNSTER has been refuted!!

ITS BIG TIME IDIOCITY. Pride is down.... Pride is down... Pride is down... (i need to retaliate... wtf. i'm panicked, o shit what should i do... omg... i better go study this country... o my im down, this cant be, help, i need help, o idont need help. i better talk other things... bye! bye! )

Wanted to make a comic strip. I just started with words first...

[munzter666]

Now you're serious. I want to see the glory of your full knowledge....(PAUSE) feel right?

Ok.

can you spot any significant observations? most religious countries...well you'll find these countries are on the brink of poverty, high crime rate, and corrupt. <---------- FAIL you don't deserve my recognition

Check this Out: Please Observe ("can you spot any significant observations?")
1. Iceland
2. Norway
3. Australia
4. Canada
5. Ireland,
6. Sweden,
7. Switzerland
8. Netherlands

and so-on and so-fort. What did you notice?

First of all these are countries right?
They are the most livable Countries.
They are the Top8 Livable Countries in the world.
They are all dominantly CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES.

you FAIL BIG TIME BRAD. Your Proof does not qualifies your CLAIM. (poverty, high crime rate, and corrupt).
Bsin d pod ka kadawat ani? You see it seems your brain fail you as expected.

Do you still Claim that RELIGION MAKES A COUNTRY Corrupt? ANESAY LANG BRAD? do you? if you say yes, then you are lying to your self.

care to back up your figures with some DATA.
sources, you forgot.
or would you like me to poke it bit by bit?

top livable countries, i dont give a hoot about such list. but you mentioned the above countries are dominantly "christian". lets investigate shall we?

lets start with SWEDEN, just because the vatican prefers her bodyguards swiss doenst really mean its a dead give away.

Several studies have found Sweden to be one of the most secular countries in the world. According to Davie (1999), 80% of Swedes do not believe in God. In the Eurostat survey, 23% of Swedish citizens responded that "they believe there is a God", whereas 53% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force" and 23% that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force". This, according to the survey, would make Swedes the third least religious people in the 27-member European Union,

source: Eurobarometer poll, in 2005

how about Norway, home of black metal unlike Sweden's ABBA.A 2006 survey in the

Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten (on February 17), saw 1,006 inhabitants of Norway answering the question "What do you believe in?". 29% answered "I believe in a god or deity", 23% answered "I believe in a higher power without being certain of what", 26% answered "I don't believe in God or higher powers", and 22% answered "I am in doubt". Still, some 85% of the population are members of the Norwegian state's official Lutheran Protestant church. Part of this deviance is because Norwegians are signed into this church at birth, and that signing out, if they are even aware of being signed in, is a time-consuming, bureaucratic affair yielding no immediate gains

from zuckerman, 2005 survey reveals that: Sweden (population)8,986,000 46 - 85% are nonbelievers of god, not really atheists but not really CHRISTIAN as what you claim.

how about i turn the tables, a dead give away. how about i show you the top WORST countries(in terms of livability), would you like to count how many of them are god centered ones?

nahh...i'll leave that to you.

[regnauld]

care to back up your figures with some DATA.
sources, you forgot.
or would you like me to poke it bit by bit?

top livable countries, i dont give a hoot about such list. but you mentioned the above countries are dominantly "christian". lets investigate shall we?

lets start with SWEDEN, just because the vatican prefers her bodyguards swiss doenst really mean its a dead give away.

source: Eurobarometer poll, in 2005

how about Norway, home of black metal unlike Sweden's ABBA.A 2006 survey in the
from zuckerman, 2005 survey reveals that: Sweden (population)8,986,000 46 - 85% are nonbelievers of god, not really atheists but not really CHRISTIAN as what you claim.

how about i turn the tables, a dead give away. how about i show you the top WORST countries(in terms of livability), would you like to count how many of them are god centered ones?

nahh...i'll leave that to you.

I love this one. Very reliable and scientific!

[munzter666]

ITS BIG TIME IDIOCITY. Pride is down.... Pride is down... Pride is down... (i need to retaliate... wtf. i'm panicked, o shit what should i do... omg... i better go study this country... o my im down, this cant be, help, i need help, o idont need help. i better talk other things... bye! bye! )

Wanted to make a comic strip. I just started with words first...

what ever helps you sleep, so christ like attitude i sense in you.
ha! i never thought christ like has such a DEMEANING connotation...thanks to people like you.

[regnauld]

what ever helps you sleep, so christ like attitude i sense in you.
ha! i never thought christ like has such a DEMEANING connotation...thanks to people like you.

Smells some hypocrisy to the Christians out there!

[kebot]

what ever helps you sleep, so christ like attitude i sense in you.
ha! i never thought christ like has such a DEMEANING connotation...thanks to people like you.

hahaha, cheap.

Mag Bisaya lang ko brad para mag ka sinabot...

OMG, As expected dili nmo dawaton ang fact presented... No point of telling you what is lies and what is real. dont tell bantug ingon ka swede athiest, sayop ako fact presented. Brad you claim corrupt ang mga countries sa religion <-- i say this is shit, why because your claim does not reconcile with the fact. Ayaw ko ingna na ka2ng uban countries dili tinood. RESEARCH pa brad imo na obligasyon kay pataka raka og yaw yaw... unlesss d nalang ka mo 2o for convenience sake.

What is "demeaning connotation" brad, bsin ma sayop ko sa ako translation. Yea banga kaau ako vocabulary brad binisaya lang ta para wala nay translation or simple English para sayon sabton... We will try to measure content of your brain brad.

SWEDEN:
NationMaster - Swedish Religion statistics
Pataka napod ay.

Athiest?

Lutherans man lage...

INgon Ka:
Several studies have found Sweden to be one of the most secular countries in the world. According to Davie (1999), 80% of Swedes do not believe in God. In the Eurostat survey, 23% of Swedish citizens responded that "they believe there is a God", whereas 53% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force" and 23% that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force". This, according to the survey, would make Swedes the third least religious people in the 27-member European Union,

AKO TUBAG:
Religions statistics - countries compared - NationMaster
Lutheran 87%, other (includes Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist, Muslim, Jewish, and Buddhist) 13%

Brad Jurassic pamana imo proof 1999? ako 2008. Mas Sak2 imo? Pst, pentium 4 nata oi hapit na pentium 5. Pentium 1 pamana imo... ayko ingna mas kusog na imoha...

NORWAY:
Imo ingon:
23% answered "I believe in a higher power without being certain of what",
26% answered "I don't believe in God or higher powers", and
22% answered "I am in doubt".

Still, some 85% of the population are members of the Norwegian state's official Lutheran Protestant church.
<------- kita ka? Brad ambot lang ong naa pa bay logic imo gi pang sulti. SINGOT NA? Let me explain again ha...

IMO MAJOR CLAIM MAO NI:
most religious countries...well you'll find these countries are on the brink of poverty, high crime rate, and corrupt. (i told you some of the most livable countries kay naay religion so? religion has nothing to do with poverty, high crime rate.) <------------- fail doesnt prove anything Norway

If you cant defend or back up your claim satisfactorily then, naa ko question nmo.



IDIOCITY ni brad o Arrogance? Whatever your answer its between two choices.

[kebot]

Smells some hypocrisy to the Christians out there!

Hala pag tinabangay mo... Hypocrite, hahaha. so daog na kay hypocrite. Tabang nalang answer dong... if d k ka answer ayaw apil kay bsin maapil ka sa IDIOCITY OR ARROGANCE?

Hypokrit na kung hypokrit. I don't care either.

PRIDE IS DOWN! PRIDE IS DOWN! PRIDE IS DOWN.

[miyay]

hahaha, cheap.

Mag Bisaya lang ko brad para mag ka sinabot...

OMG, As expected dili nmo dawaton ang fact presented... No point of telling you what is lies and what is real. dont tell bantug ingon ka swede athiest, sayop ako fact presented. Brad you claim corrupt ang mga countries sa religion <-- i say this is shit, why because your claim does not reconcile with the fact. Ayaw ko ingna na ka2ng uban countries dili tinood. RESEARCH pa brad imo na obligasyon kay pataka raka og yaw yaw... unlesss d nalang ka mo 2o for convenience sake.

What is "demeaning connotation" brad, bsin ma sayop ko sa ako translation. Yea banga kaau ako vocabulary brad binisaya lang ta para wala nay translation or simple English para sayon sabton... We will try to measure content of your brain brad.

SWEDEN:
NationMaster - Swedish Religion statistics
Pataka napod ay.

Athiest?

Lutherans man lage...

INgon Ka:
Several studies have found Sweden to be one of the most secular countries in the world. According to Davie (1999), 80% of Swedes do not believe in God. In the Eurostat survey, 23% of Swedish citizens responded that "they believe there is a God", whereas 53% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force" and 23% that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force". This, according to the survey, would make Swedes the third least religious people in the 27-member European Union,

AKO TUBAG:
Religions statistics - countries compared - NationMaster
Lutheran 87%, other (includes Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist, Muslim, Jewish, and Buddhist) 13%

Brad Jurassic pamana imo proof 1999? ako 2008. Mas Sak2 imo? Pst, pentium 4 nata oi hapit na pentium 5. Pentium 1 pamana imo... ayko ingna mas kusog na imoha...

NORWAY:
Imo ingon:
23% answered "I believe in a higher power without being certain of what",
26% answered "I don't believe in God or higher powers", and
22% answered "I am in doubt".

Still, some 85% of the population are members of the Norwegian state's official Lutheran Protestant church.
<------- kita ka? Brad ambot lang ong naa pa bay logic imo gi pang sulti. SINGOT NA? Let me explain again ha...

IMO MAJOR CLAIM MAO NI:
most religious countries...well you'll find these countries are on the brink of poverty, high crime rate, and corrupt. (i told you some of the most livable countries kay naay religion so? religion has nothing to do with poverty, high crime rate.) <------------- fail doesnt prove anything Norway

If you cant defend or back up your claim satisfactorily then, naa ko question nmo.



IDIOCITY ni brad o Arrogance? Whatever your answer its between two choices.

i think naa siya qualification sir, ngano most are lutheran prostestants. if you read back his post, it says most norwegians are signed in as lutherans at birth but if they want to sign out, it is time consuming. since, if the survey is to be believed, they don't feel strongly about anything else anyway, why go through the hassle of signing out. besides, you are only obligated to go to church (if you want to) and not to go to war for your beliefs

but then, the same could be said of poverty ridden philippines