Second Look on Islam

[Lovely Charm]

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@ malic, your right sir ang pinupuna nila kasi yung mga extrmist that happen to embrace islam as their religion, its the same case din naman ng christianity di ba? thou shall not kill daw pero ang daming pinapatay, its human nature po kasi yung hatred, selfishness, etc,

so kung failure man yung tao di naman dapat sisihin sa relihiyon, sa tao kasi yan eh, ang daming kagaguhanag interpretasyon at gustong isalpak sa kukute ng ibang tao, pwede ba yun ?
sad talaga sir,hmmp

[merijaan]

so kung failure man yung tao di naman dapat sisihin sa relihiyon, sa tao kasi yan eh, ang daming kagaguhanag interpretasyon at gustong isalpak sa kukute ng ibang tao, pwede ba yun ?
sad talaga sir,hmmp[/quote]


Exactly

[JX]

my statement was fine. Consistency was there but your disappointment led you to look for a hole in what i said and finding none you resorted into taking points from irrelevant side issues. hehe...uh uh careful now...here comes the trick of the spin doctor.

irrelevant side issues? oh but I thought the issue was pork being dirty and unhealthy to be consumed.. you claimed that even with proper food preparation, it still would be unwise to eat pork.. yet you contradicted yourself with your own statements.. heard of "careful what you say, in case you have to eat your own words"?.. hehe..

hahahaha...this is what I have pointed out from the very start. You have this bad habit of stretching a point beyond the scope of its premise. Get this..." ALL CANNED GOODS CONTAINED CANCEROUS INGREDIENT".

and yet i am accused of taking points from irrelevant side issues.. moreover.. i thought the issue was about pork being dangerous and unhealthy to be consumed? hehe.. yet now its about "all canned goods".. it dont seem to connect to the main issue.. hehe..

disappointed na jud...abot naka ug tobacco asbestos ug oban pa...Focus pls...confuse indeed!

indeed i am disappointed.. literal interpretation of my own resolution.. hehe..

learn the proper rule of debates. ting ting...a flagrant violation committed by JX.

proper rules of debates? hahaha.. well my advise to you is, refute the argument, not the debater, or its character.. hehe..

oh now you want to sway this discussion from your confusion? tsk tsk...I dont eat human flesh, so whats the point? I dont see the connection of bringing up this issue. Dirty or not its irrelevant, why? because I dont eat human flesh. Ikaw kaon ka? hahaha...dont play your trick om me mr. spin doctor. Is not working.

it seems you are learning.. being careful with your own words, because it might come back to haunt you.. (sounded cool yeah?) hehe.. I believe i have literally explained, as simple as I can, yet still no rebuttal.. oh well, you can just let it go.. again.. hehe..

oh now this is humor. Sure, a point that you alone knew. hahaha

thank God you got it.. hehe..

really?...because you remind me of the movie.

well, again, am I the one taking points of irrelevant side issues? refute the argument, not the debater, or its character.. hehe..

but nothing like pigs, they are so fatal.

so fatal that credible medical agencies allow the public to consume pork.. yeah.. tell it to the marines.. hehe..

oh here again...trying to stay away from the real issue. The premise is...A person with a high blood pressure and the doctor would tell them not to eat pork because they might go six feet under. Get it? hehe. But look how you rebutted my statement? tsk tsk...again you are stretching the point beyond its premise.

hahaha.. premise? and i thought i've explained it pure and simple already.. again, high blood pressure is not from pork fats alone.. gets? it doesnt support your conclusion exactly.. hehe..

Got you...should I again believed this story? you just stripped your honor right here. Pig's shit into methane or whatever...still it can not change the fact that pigs eat their own shit.

oh but im glad i had an honor.. hehe.. let me tell you something, pigs eat thei own sh*t, only if theres no other source of food, its called survival mode.. hehe..

hahaha here again a proof that you want to shift the argument to avoid my point. Very lame I must say. Its not about farrowing at all. It was a study about how to give pigs a healthier environment. It shows that they are more healthy in a dirty environment. yucks...!

and whats it called? if you think mud is dirty, learn more about mud baths for humans.. its good for exfoliation actually.. hehe..

well like what you said...sentido comun...there is no assurance.

you have not.. hehe.. yet you generalize they all do.. again, they only eat if theres no other food available..

but not as dirty as the pigs...not as fatal as pigs. Thats the point i was pointing out since this discussion started.

says you.. hehe.. medical and health organizations says otherwise.. sorry.. hehe..

hahahahahaha, untrue? wow! where have you been lately my boy? Your want of justification made a fool out of you to the point that you want to spread a lie. What do you mean derogatory cliches w/c are untrue? hahaha. bungol siguro ka.

oh i've been busy.. eating pork.. hehe.. hopefully ill get swine flu.. but so far im healthy as a swine.. hehe..

theory vs reality...pigs excrete and eat their shit...himoon man gani usahay ug higdaanan. yucks...

theory? oh but i thought you havent taken cared of one pig? yet you know reality.. hehe..

By nature pigs love dirt. and still they eat their own sh*t.

By nature they have to root in mud, not dirt, theres a big difference.. hehe..

Here is something that you need to understand...

There are people or culture that has no appetite for dogs and cats and there are also a group of people who has no appetite for pigs because they consider swine to be a dirty animal. Meditate upon this truth JX and everything will go fine ...relax and chill...

Here is something that you need to understand also..

Meditation doesnt cure illness(medically speaking that is).. science does.. if science says i am infected with the A(h1n1) virus i will believe it, rather than a faith healer's word that i am accursed and have faith for evil demons to be exorcised..

Have you seen the news on TV lately?

oh yes i have.. if youre referring to the A(h1n1) virus..

What is H1N1 (swine) flu?

H1N1 (referred to as “swine flu” early on) is a new influenza virus causing illness in people. This new virus was first detected in people in the United States in April 2009. Other countries, including Mexico and Canada, have reported people sick with this new virus. This virus is spreading from person-to-person, probably in much the same way that regular seasonal influenza viruses spread.

Why is this new H1N1 virus sometimes called “swine flu”?

This virus was originally referred to as “swine flu” because laboratory testing showed that many of the genes in this new virus were very similar to influenza viruses that normally occur in pigs in North America. But further study has shown that this new virus is very different from what normally circulates in North American pigs. It has two genes from flu viruses that normally circulate in pigs in Europe and Asia and avian genes and human genes. Scientists call this a “quadruple reassortant” virus.

-pandemicflu.gov

yet, blame it on the swine? hehehe.. research more..

You know what, I must say that your gay-wit is very entertaining, try to audition for a comedy act, comedy bars are IN nowadays. This is not the right place for your gift.

yet again, attacking character.. well anyways, im not going down the level.. hehe..

addendum:

what do you mean by "gay-wit" by the way? hehe..

[JX]

They eat almost anything.


wala lang nako gidako ang pic kay basin ma misunderstood ninyo. Im not here to discredit any pig farms or discouraging any people here not to eat pigs. My only point is...pls dont force us to think that pigs are clean.

a pig scavenging for food in a dumpster.. dirty pig i might say.. therefore all pigs are dirty..

same logic:

a muslim blowing himself up.. terrorist i might say.. therefore all muslims are terrorists?

[brownprose]

i tried not to eat pig anymore.
mura'g niga-an gamay akong gibati.
niga-an sad akong timbang.

i guess i'm more healthy na sukad wala nay mamoy akong gika-on.

Nas, i tried to eat pigs before pero moshagit man sila...so pork nalang akong gikaon ron.

[Malic]

irrelevant side issues? oh but I thought the issue was pork being dirty and unhealthy to be consumed.. you claimed that even with proper food preparation, it still would be unwise to eat pork.. yet you contradicted yourself with your own statements.. heard of "careful what you say, in case you have to eat your own words"?.. hehe..

you thought...review it pls. hehe

and yet i am accused of taking points from irrelevant side issues.. moreover.. i thought the issue was about pork being dangerous and unhealthy to be consumed? hehe.. yet now its about "all canned goods".. it dont seem to connect to the main issue.. hehe..

oh you brought the "canned good" issue, tsk tsk...hahaha. im scratching my head right now...wala na jud confuse na...by the way i am not accusing you...It is a proven fact. tan-awa ga patak ka ug bali sa istorya. ikaw ang gasugod sa canned good issue dili ako, ikaw ga pataka ug connect.

hala basaha sugod ayaw ug tuyok tuyok. spin doctor jud.



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ndeed i am disappointed.. literal interpretation of my own resolution.. hehe..

proper rules of debates? hahaha.. well my advise to you is, refute the argument, not the debater, or its character.. hehe..

why would i refute something that is not in line with our discussion? di ko ana ka desperado. hahaha basin ikaw kay bisag asa lang lagpot imong issue. nya kung akong tubagon aw wala na mosamot ka layo ang issue and I know mao nay imong gusto. focus ha pls...hehe



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t seems you are learning.. being careful with your own words, because it might come back to haunt you.. (sounded cool yeah?) hehe.. I believe i have literally explained, as simple as I can, yet still no rebuttal.. oh well, you can just let it go.. again.. hehe..

learning what? tan-awa imong tubag diri wala jud connection sa atong discussion. intawn kalooy na ngapa ug unsay itubag.

thank God you got it.. hehe..

now we agree that it was really a humor...unlike the first one nga ikaw ray nakakita. hehehe

well, again, am I the one taking points of irrelevant side issues? refute the argument, not the debater, or its character.. hehe..

oh yes you are 100% sure about it. gusto man gud ka nga molusot hehe. di jud ka kalusot.

so fatal that credible medical agencies allow the public to consume pork.. yeah.. tell it to the marines.. hehe..

so fatal that credible medical science tagged it as a major source of diseases.

hahaha.. premise? and i thought i've explained it pure and simple already.. again, high blood pressure is not from pork fats alone.. gets? it doesnt support your conclusion exactly.. hehe..

toink...get the premise pls...ayaw ug kuha sa side issue...so desperate to turn this argument sa imong side? Its not working, sorry!

oh but im glad i had an honor.. hehe.. let me tell you something, pigs eat thei own sh*t, only if theres no other source of food, its called survival mode.. hehe..

oh thank God after all the hardship I finally got a confession...hahahahaha. ayaw na bawia ha, basin imo na pod liko liko on ang storya.

and whats it called? if you think mud is dirty, learn more about mud baths for humans.. its good for exfoliation actually.. hehe..

hahahaha na bogo na...loz. ang kanang mud sa mga baboy mao pod ng mud nga gamiton sa unsa na? exfoliation? hahahahah , pagtoon oi. see another proof nga ga patak na lang ka ug tubag basta lang makatubag bahalg wala sa topic. dili lagi ka ka ipsot lagi.

layoa sa tubag oi...toink and toink! mud sa baboy nya mud baths sa human nga gamiton sa matud pa nimo exfoliation hahahahahahahaha sakit akong tiyan sa katawa.

you have not.. hehe.. yet you generalize they all do.. again, they only eat if theres no other food available..

mao bitaw na ang point...they eat their own sh*t...and I want to thank you for making adding legs to my point.

says you.. hehe.. medical and health organizations says otherwise.. sorry.. hehe..

sorry...medical and health organizations



oh i've been busy.. eating pork.. hehe.. hopefully ill get swine flu.. but so far im healthy as a swine.. hehe..[/quote]


laayo jud sa tubag oi...kalooy. mao ba, maayo nga healthy ka kay aktong mga hingaon kaayo ug baboy nangamatay naman ang oban.

theory? oh but i thought you havent taken cared of one pig? yet you know reality.. hehe..

reality can be learned too from what you see. tsk tsk...like nag kasakit tungod sa sigeg kaon ug mamoy. dili na kinahanglan mobuhi pa ug baboy...kaw jud...lapses na pod...

By nature they have to root in mud, not dirt, theres a big difference.. hehe..

toink! sige jud duwa jud ug semantics...hahaha...pigs by nature love dirt. mao nay sulti sa mga expert. usa man ni mud nga para exfoliation? hahaha

Here is something that you need to understand also..

Meditation doesnt cure illness(medically speaking that is).. science does.. if science says i am infected with the A(h1n1) virus i will believe it, rather than a faith healer's word that i am accursed and have faith for evil demons to be exorcised..



oh yes i have.. if youre referring to the A(h1n1) virus..

What is H1N1 (swine) flu?

H1N1 (referred to as “swine flu” early on) is a new influenza virus causing illness in people. This new virus was first detected in people in the United States in April 2009. Other countries, including Mexico and Canada, have reported people sick with this new virus. This virus is spreading from person-to-person, probably in much the same way that regular seasonal influenza viruses spread.

Why is this new H1N1 virus sometimes called “swine flu”?

This virus was originally referred to as “swine flu” because laboratory testing showed that many of the genes in this new virus were very similar to influenza viruses that normally occur in pigs in North America. But further study has shown that this new virus is very different from what normally circulates in North American pigs. It has two genes from flu viruses that normally circulate in pigs in Europe and Asia and avian genes and human genes. Scientists call this a “quadruple reassortant” virus.

-pandemicflu.gov

yet, blame it on the swine? hehehe.. research more..



yet again, attacking character.. well anyways, im not going down the level.. hehe..

addendum:

what do you mean by "gay-wit" by the way? hehe..

taking pride of your google research? tsk tsk...wala pa na nimo na post kabsa nako bahin ana. Other research shows a different result. hehehe, you forgot to mention that this virus evolved from swine. Making it as one source of the virus. research more...


ow gay-wit... i heard it from a female friend...iya man gud gi praise iyang bayot nga amigo nga nindot kuno ug gay-wit...and you so sound like him.

kana bitaw pataka na lang ug yaw yaw bisan wala sa toipic basta makapakatawa lang sa iyang mga listeners.

[Malic]

a pig scavenging for food in a dumpster.. dirty pig i might say.. therefore all pigs are dirty..

same logic:

a muslim blowing himself up.. terrorist i might say.. therefore all muslims are terrorists?

flagrant violation of logic...ting ting proving once again nga...patak lang jud ka ug storya.

wrong illustration.

Pigs are by nature a scanvenger animal and by nature it loves dirt, science said that.


Muslims by nature are not terrorist tho we can see nga naay mga extremist that would blow themself up but not all muslims are extremist.

get the proper logic now? oh boy you need to school yourself again.

[JX]

you thought...review it pls. hehe

nah.. no need for a review.. after all.. theres no rebuttal at all.. hehe..

oh you brought the "canned good" issue, tsk tsk...hahaha. im scratching my head right now...wala na jud confuse na...by the way i am not accusing you...It is a proven fact. tan-awa ga patak ka ug bali sa istorya. ikaw ang gasugod sa canned good issue dili ako, ikaw ga pataka ug connect.

hala basaha sugod ayaw ug tuyok tuyok. spin doctor jud. [/QUOTE]

uhmm.. just to make you understand better.. correct me if im wrong but youre on the affirmative side that pork is dirty and resorted to processed meat products to canned goods..

anyways, i understand, scratching ones head is ones natural reflexes for being confused.. hehe..

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much better.. just smile if you didnt get it.. hehe..

why would i refute something that is not in line with our discussion? di ko ana ka desperado. hahaha basin ikaw kay bisag asa lang lagpot imong issue. nya kung akong tubagon aw wala na mosamot ka layo ang issue and I know mao nay imong gusto. focus ha pls...hehe

oh but it seems desperation led you to attack my character not the issue.. but thats just me i think.. hehe..

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learning what? tan-awa imong tubag diri wala jud connection sa atong discussion. intawn kalooy na ngapa ug unsay itubag.

yet the one who's "nangapa" has more statement posted than the one who has all the dots connected.. hehehe..

now we agree that it was really a humor...unlike the first one nga ikaw ray nakakita. hehehe

well sometimes, ignorance is a bliss.. hehe..

oh yes you are 100% sure about it. gusto man gud ka nga molusot hehe. di jud ka kalusot.

so who's "nangapa" now? hehe..

so fatal that credible medical science tagged it as a major source of diseases.

so now you decide whats credible and whats not? tagged? actually its tagged with a price tag at the meat section.. theres the proof.. hehe..

toink...get the premise pls...ayaw ug kuha sa side issue...so desperate to turn this argument sa imong side? Its not working, sorry!

do you know what premise means? check mr. webster pls.. hehe..

oh thank God after all the hardship I finally got a confession...hahahahaha. ayaw na bawia ha, basin imo na pod liko liko on ang storya.

now you cant even sense puns and sarcasms? thats ok.. hehe..

hahahaha na bogo na...loz. ang kanang mud sa mga baboy mao pod ng mud nga gamiton sa unsa na? exfoliation? hahahahah , pagtoon oi. see another proof nga ga patak na lang ka ug tubag basta lang makatubag bahalg wala sa topic. dili lagi ka ka ipsot lagi.

layoa sa tubag oi...toink and toink! mud sa baboy nya mud baths sa human nga gamiton sa matud pa nimo exfoliation hahahahahahahaha sakit akong tiyan sa katawa. [/QUOTE]

yet again, do i need a more literal translation of my own resolution? hehe.. just let it go if you didnt get it.. just an advise, coz if it was me, i most def would.. hehe..

mao bitaw na ang point...they eat their own sh*t...and I want to thank you for making adding legs to my point.

and you dont see the "if" and the "survival mode"? all you see is the sh*t part.. hehe.. and exactly adding legs to the point of understanding more about pigs.. hehe..

sorry...medical and health organizations

oh i've been busy.. eating pork.. hehe.. hopefully ill get swine flu.. but so far im healthy as a swine..

laayo jud sa tubag oi...kalooy. mao ba, maayo nga healthy ka kay aktong mga hingaon kaayo ug baboy nangamatay naman ang oban. [/QUOTE]

thats ok, its thats usually how one percieves if one didnt get it.. just resort to "layoa oi".. hehe..
and by the way, i dont eat much pork fat, its vary dangerous.. hehehe..

reality can be learned too from what you see. tsk tsk...like nag kasakit tungod sa sigeg kaon ug mamoy. dili na kinahanglan mobuhi pa ug baboy...kaw jud...lapses na pod...

then let me assure you, i've seen more of a reality about pigs than you do or did.. but i dont claim i've seen it all.. hehe..

toink! sige jud duwa jud ug semantics...hahaha...pigs by nature love dirt. mao nay sulti sa mga expert. usa man ni mud nga para exfoliation? hahaha

is there such a game? didnt know that..
uhmm.. exfoliation issue is the overall idea of mud in regards to exfoliation, not literally in a way.. hehe..

taking pride of your google research? tsk tsk...wala pa na nimo na post kabsa nako bahin ana. Other research shows a different result. hehehe, you forgot to mention that this virus evolved from swine. Making it as one source of the virus. research more...

uhm.. maybe you didnt understand.. reading and comprehension is the key.. A(h1n1) virus looks similar to the flu virus that occurs in swines.. and by the way, human flu virus is more fatal than the swine flu, just so you know.. hehe..

by the way, instead of yapping about other research results, just post it and the source.. hehe..

ow gay-wit... i heard it from a female friend...iya man gud gi praise iyang bayot nga amigo nga nindot kuno ug gay-wit...and you so sound like him.

uhm.. ok.. female friend.. oh well if thats the case, why thank you.. i thought it came from a gay friend.. hehe

kana bitaw pataka na lang ug yaw yaw bisan wala sa toipic basta makapakatawa lang sa iyang mga listeners.

really? sounds condescending to gay people.. but anyways, youre entitled to your opinion.. hehe..

[JX]

flagrant violation of logic...ting ting proving once again nga...patak lang jud ka ug storya.

wrong illustration.

Pigs are by nature a scanvenger animal and by nature it loves dirt, science said that.


Muslims by nature are not terrorist tho we can see nga naay mga extremist that would blow themself up but not all muslims are extremist.

get the proper logic now? oh boy you need to school yourself again.

indeed.. pigs by nature are and pigs that are in their natural habitat.. however, pigs commercially produced are controlled.. hehe..

muslims by nature are not? muslims must not be humans if thats the case, because as far as I know, humans by nature has always resorted to terrorism for what they believe is right and for a higher cause.. history wise, consider wars.. or better yet, just take into account of the idea of discipline in children.. thats if we take into account the meaning of terrorism provided by mr webster.. hehe..

[NASYO]

if muslims don't eat PIG/pork, so be it.
there's nothing wrong with it.

but if they'll try to threat you as a PIG/pork, then, eat them..