Second Look on Islam

[JX]

you are getting more confuse, the more you want to explain yourself the more your feet is buried in deep swine sh*t. Because of anger you seem to missed the main point of my statement, very typical!

anger? why would i be angry? hehe.. if that's typical.. then yours is definitely archetypal.. hehe..
next time, read and comprehend before pasting.. just an advice.. hehe..

tsk tsk you are getting worse everyday...the fact that you are denying medical science's report on how dirty pork meat is shows that you are a hopeless case. yeah unscientific justifications, you are so full of it. i wonder why? magoba ang negosyo noh?

oh but i dont think theres a case in anyway.. your ramblings would not sway the pork industry.. hotdogs, canned goods, etc.. those people who check the quality of pork meat must have not read your so called medical science.. hehe..

but what's the point of bringing up the bacterias in humans? we dont eat human flesh...i mean I dont...I dont know about you? See, you are missing the main points of my statements, and you've been at it for so many times already since the first discussion we had. Thats why ill say with all clarity that you are indeed in a confuse state.

well you said pork meat is full of bacterias.. therefore they are dirty.. humans on the other hand is full of bacteria, is it therefore safe to say that humans are dirty? hehe.. oh well, if im confused, what an understatement that would be for you.. hehe..

We put labels on just about anything...pigs for us belong to the same category that of rats, cats, dogs. It is worth mentioning also that there are bacterias and diseases in rats,dogs,cats that can also be found in pork meat. People nowadays eat dogs and cats for some barbaric and uncultured reason we as Muslims treat pigs as something unclean and thats why we dont eat it.

well i think its safe to say that "devout muslims" treat pigs as something unclean because back in college, my lebanese muslim classmates loved eating pork meat during lunch.. hehe..

Well if that being "arent of a something" would lead me to eat smelly food then I am happy that i am not really "arent that of something", whatever that means.

hehe.. oh dont mind that.. just another failed attempt at humor.. boy, dont i suck.. hehe..

Blame the alcohol not the pig? haha...again you didnt get the drift boy... well lisod jud pasabton ang hubog, They will just open their mouths w/o thinking.

just as i thought.. hehe.. anyways, if you didnt get it, just ignore it.. hehe..

With all the care,there is still no assurance that they are free from their dirty habit of eating their own sh*t.

well i beg to disagree.. after all, if pork meat is certified by medical experts, then who should i be inclined to believe in? hehe..

Have you ever heard the expression...ka baboy nimo ug batasan oi...I guess this also proves how dirty pigs are that even our own culture coined such a derogatory phrase.

yeah ive heard of that one.. yet as i see it, you have not grasped the idea of its etymologies.. hehe..

This is what you should do...Give me a scientific data that proves beyond reasonable doubt that pigs are clean animals. Instead of wasting your time rambling how clean and safe pork is...because let me tell you...pork is the number one contributor sa mga tao nga naa'y highblood ug mga sakit sakit.

Certainly..

Legal Basis: R.A. 3720
Title: Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act
Date of Promulgation:1987
Salient Provision:Provides for the "adoption of measures to ensure pure and safe supply of food, to protect the health of the people and for the promulgation of food standards"

Legal Basis: DA A.O. No. 39, S. 2000
Title: Amended Rules and Regulations Governing Importation of Meat and Meat Products into the Philippines
Date of Promulgation: 2000
Salient Provision: "Rules and regulations to prevent the entry of disease-carrying, contaminated, and/or adulterated meat and/or meat products, which endanger the lives and safety/health of the consuming public and which could lead to potentially serious economic consequences to the livestock and poultry and related industries."

Legal Basis: R.A. 8435, Ch. 7
Title: Establishment of Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Product Standards as mandated by AFMA
Date of Promulgation: 1997
Salient Provision: Provides for "product standardization and food safety"

Legal Basis: D.A. A.O. No.1, S.2000
Title: Banning and Withdrawal of Olaquindox and Carbadox from the Market
Date of Promulgation: 2000
Salient Provision: Banning of these "anti-microbial drugs used in livestock production to reduce salmonella shedding in animals because of long withdrawal periods of about 70 days"

contributor of high blood? do you really know what causes high blood pressures? hehe.. come on.. you can do better than that..

What Causes High Blood Pressure?
In 90 to 95 percent of high blood pressure cases, the cause is unknown. In fact, you can have high blood pressure for years without knowing it. That's why it's the “silent killer” — it creeps up on you. When the cause is unknown, you have what's called essential or primary hypertension.

-americanheart.org

then again.. blame it on the swine says a medical expert..

Still Pigs eat their won sh*t... i dont eat animals that eats their won sh*t...yaaiks...

So you dont eat chicken as well? because from time to time they do.. hehe.. (i meant not the chicken from the poultry farm, just so you know in advance)

oh by the way...just read this now. There is an ongoing research that says pigs are most healthy in a dirty environment than a clean one. But this is bad news for humans, like our friend here.

oh wow.. an ongoing research that has a conclusion already? nice.. it perfectly supports your claim.. hehe..
well of course its healthy because of constant exposure to dirty things, the swines immune system builds up like a buff in a gym.. just my two cents.. hehe..

[Malic]

anger? why would i be angry? hehe.. if that's typical.. then yours is definitely archetypal.. hehe..
next time, read and comprehend before pasting.. just an advice.. hehe..



oh but i dont think theres a case in anyway.. your ramblings would not sway the pork industry.. hotdogs, canned goods, etc.. those people who check the quality of pork meat must have not read your so called medical science.. hehe..



well you said pork meat is full of bacterias.. therefore they are dirty.. humans on the other hand is full of bacteria, is it therefore safe to say that humans are dirty? hehe.. oh well, if im confused, what an understatement that would be for you.. hehe..



well i think its safe to say that "devout muslims" treat pigs as something unclean because back in college, my lebanese muslim classmates loved eating pork meat during lunch.. hehe..



hehe.. oh dont mind that.. just another failed attempt at humor.. boy, dont i suck.. hehe..



just as i thought.. hehe.. anyways, if you didnt get it, just ignore it.. hehe..



well i beg to disagree.. after all, if pork meat is certified by medical experts, then who should i be inclined to believe in? hehe..



yeah ive heard of that one.. yet as i see it, you have not grasped the idea of its etymologies.. hehe..



Certainly..

Legal Basis: R.A. 3720
Title: Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act
Date of Promulgation:1987
Salient Provision:Provides for the "adoption of measures to ensure pure and safe supply of food, to protect the health of the people and for the promulgation of food standards"

Legal Basis: DA A.O. No. 39, S. 2000
Title: Amended Rules and Regulations Governing Importation of Meat and Meat Products into the Philippines
Date of Promulgation: 2000
Salient Provision: "Rules and regulations to prevent the entry of disease-carrying, contaminated, and/or adulterated meat and/or meat products, which endanger the lives and safety/health of the consuming public and which could lead to potentially serious economic consequences to the livestock and poultry and related industries."

Legal Basis: R.A. 8435, Ch. 7
Title: Establishment of Bureau of Agriculture and Fisheries Product Standards as mandated by AFMA
Date of Promulgation: 1997
Salient Provision: Provides for "product standardization and food safety"

Legal Basis: D.A. A.O. No.1, S.2000
Title: Banning and Withdrawal of Olaquindox and Carbadox from the Market
Date of Promulgation: 2000
Salient Provision: Banning of these "anti-microbial drugs used in livestock production to reduce salmonella shedding in animals because of long withdrawal periods of about 70 days"

contributor of high blood? do you really know what causes high blood pressures? hehe.. come on.. you can do better than that..

What Causes High Blood Pressure?
In 90 to 95 percent of high blood pressure cases, the cause is unknown. In fact, you can have high blood pressure for years without knowing it. That's why it's the “silent killer” — it creeps up on you. When the cause is unknown, you have what's called essential or primary hypertension.

-americanheart.org

then again.. blame it on the swine says a medical expert..



So you dont eat chicken as well? because from time to time they do.. hehe.. (i meant not the chicken from the poultry farm, just so you know in advance)



oh wow.. an ongoing research that has a conclusion already? nice.. it perfectly supports your claim.. hehe..
well of course its healthy because of constant exposure to dirty things, the swines immune system builds up like a buff in a gym.. just my two cents.. hehe..

I can read and spot real issues well, that is why I can sense your disappointment turned confusion in your statement.

oh sure they have read it but a Million dollar producing industry seem too expensive to sacrifice. By the way again you missed big time here...so just you know, canned goods are also one major cancer contributor. Do your homework well please.


oh my...tsk tsk...Is it stupidity or shame that you still continue to push this "human dirt" argument? As ive said, whats the point? We dont eat human flesh...I mean I dont, I dont know about you. Who cares if humans carry bacterias. Sure you are confuse, that is expected from a spin doctor like you.


oh no...hehe, again focus my friend focus, the issue is not "if muslims eat pork or not" but how does Islam views pigs. Focus okay focus...tsk tsk, no wonder you are so confuse...and its building up... I just hope it wont pile up to the point of eruption.


I dont see any humor...that was your suggestion...and again you are suggesting something that isnt there...hmm, psychologist has a name for that kind of thing.


I was asking for a document that shows data that pigs are clean animals.

oh yes i know what high blood pressure is...tsk tsk...let us not be too technical. Lets hear it from the practical day to day experience. when someone is diagnosed of having HBP first thing that the doctor will tell you is to avoid pork meat.


hahaha, so desperate...FYI chickens dont eat their shit and here is the catch...there is a context here that you need to be aware of.

It is an ongoing research...because they are divided between two sides: providing a dirty environment for the pigs that would make the animals healthier or take the pigs out from their natural environment and cater to man's greed for dirty pleasure.


Still Pigs eat their own sh*t and i dont eat animals that eat their own sh*t.

[JX]

I can read and spot real issues well, that is why I can sense your disappointment turned confusion in your statement.

no rebuttal at all for the "copy and pasting w/o comprehending" issue? very well then, lets move on.. hehe..

oh sure they have read it but a Million dollar producing industry seem too expensive to sacrifice. By the way again you missed big time here...so just you know, canned goods are also one major cancer contributor. Do your homework well please.

canned goods indeed are major cancer contributors, that is if consumed not in moderation, what do you expect, excessive intake of sugar causes diabetes.. but then again, blame it on the swine? hehe.. or rather, blame it on the preservatives that causes cancer? hehe..

oh my...tsk tsk...Is it stupidity or shame that you still continue to push this "human dirt" argument? As ive said, whats the point? We dont eat human flesh...I mean I dont, I dont know about you. Who cares if humans carry bacterias. Sure you are confuse, that is expected from a spin doctor like you.

yet again, no rebuttal at all.. it was just a plain question.. do you see bacterias as ground to say that an organism is dirty.. plain yes or no.. hehe..

oh no...hehe, again focus my friend focus, the issue is not "if muslims eat pork or not" but how does Islam views pigs. Focus okay focus...tsk tsk, no wonder you are so confuse...and its building up... I just hope it wont pile up to the point of eruption.

then why state: "we as Muslims treat pigs as something unclean and thats why we dont eat it."
well i know some Muslims who does.. hehe..

I dont see any humor...that was your suggestion...and again you are suggesting something that isnt there...hmm, psychologist has a name for that kind of thing.

well you didnt see it there because you didnt get it.. get it? hehe.. kidding..

I was asking for a document that shows data that pigs are clean animals.

sentido comun.. if there are legal basis, then medical facts are behind it, obviously.. right? hehe.. then you can check the meat section at the supermarket.. hehe..

oh yes i know what high blood pressure is...tsk tsk...let us not be too technical. Lets hear it from the practical day to day experience. when someone is diagnosed of having HBP first thing that the doctor will tell you is to avoid pork meat.

oh now its "let us not be too technical"? hehe.. well FYI, its not automatically avoid pork.. rather, it depends on the diagnosis.. could be stress, smoking, drinking.. etc2x.. hehe..

hahaha, so desperate...FYI chickens dont eat their shit and here is the catch...there is a context here that you need to be aware of.

really.. so now you're the chicken expert? well my grandparents used to have a poultry farm.. they had layers, so i know they do from time to time..
just so you know, i dont feel like talking if I dont know what im talking about.. hehe.. but thats just me..

It is an ongoing research...because they are divided between two sides: providing a dirty environment for the pigs that would make the animals healthier or take the pigs out from their natural environment and cater to man's greed for dirty pleasure.

maybe you should read again about that "ongoing research" you have there.. hehe.. is it really about the
dirty environment? or open space, fresher air, and sunshine? plus reducing the cost of production? is it called farrowing? hehe..

Still Pigs eat their own sh*t and i dont eat animals that eat their own sh*t.

let me tell you what they eat in a controlled environment:

>2-7 gallons of water per day per l00 pounds
>grains for energy containing 75-90% of total feed ration
>protein 14-15% of ration for growing
>finishing period, 16-18% for growing pigs under l00 pounds
>12-14% for finishing hogs over 170 pounds
>Vitamins and minerals should be provided as a mix or by access to pasture grasses, roots, soil, or sunshine
>Vitamins A, D, E, K, B-Series and other vitamins plus iron, calcium, phosphorus and other minerals are needed.
>Salt is required in a feed ration of 0.24% of feed ration maxium and fat should only be 10% of the ration.

but thats just for the pigs i know.. but in anyways, i do understand your frustrations about pigs that eat their sh*t.. hehe..

[Malic]

no rebuttal at all for the "copy and pasting w/o comprehending" issue? very well then, lets move on.. hehe..

I'm forced to do it this way-quote for quote- to minimize the percentage of you being caught in confusion. Giving a rebuttal for inaccurate statement like what you did is like arguing to a mental patient. Sure let's continue...nice move!

canned goods indeed are major cancer contributors, that is if consumed not in moderation, what do you expect, excessive intake of sugar causes diabetes.. but then again, blame it on the swine? hehe.. or rather, blame it on the preservatives that causes cancer? hehe..

There goes the magic word 'moderation' but this word can not really give us the assurance. Canned goods taken moderately or not contain cancerous ingredients and that's the point. Sorry your magic word is no good when science is involve.

yet again, no rebuttal at all.. it was just a plain question.. do you see bacterias as ground to say that an organism is dirty.. plain yes or no.. hehe..

dont be too excited now...you are still entangled by your own carelessness. Again focus...the point is this, I dont care how dirty human flesh are, as long as We i mean I dont take it as part of my diet, I have no problem with that. Again giving rebuttal to a misinformed statement is like arguing to a mental patient.

then why state: "we as Muslims treat pigs as something unclean and thats why we dont eat it."well i know some Muslims who does.. hehe..

You see i have no time to explain to you about doctrines and ruling when it comes to Muslims eating pork because I'm sure your head would turn around. But as a general rule Muslims dont eat pork. I pity you because you take your points on things that are not so significant in relation to the discussion we are having. Are you sa bisaya pa nangapa ug mga tubag tungod kay nahutdan naka?.

well you didnt see it there because you didnt get it.. get it? hehe.. kidding..

Well i didn get it because Im normal. Maybe you have an I.Q that is too way up for a normal guy...Maybe you have a 'beauiful mind'. I saw that movie.

sentido comun.. if there are legal basis, then medical facts are behind it, obviously.. right? hehe.. then you can check the meat section at the supermarket.. hehe..

well medical facts says its dirty and the mere fact that it is being controlled and monitored gives you the idea that there is really something in there that causes disease and medical facts can prove it that even with all the safety measures done still the risk is there and pigs are still one of the major source of deadly diseases. Have you seen news lately?

oh now its "let us not be too technical"? hehe.. well FYI, its not automatically avoid pork.. rather, it depends on the diagnosis.. could be stress, smoking, drinking.. etc2x.. hehe..

oh sorry...but i do have friends from the medical field. Your palusot wont work here. I also have friends with relatives who are instructed by the doctors never to eat pork again or else they go below 6 feet under. Your justification is too weak my friend.

really.. so now you're the chicken expert? well my grandparents used to have a poultry farm.. they had layers, so i know they do from time to time..
just so you know, i dont feel like talking if I dont know what im talking about.. hehe.. but thats just me..

you know what...Im amazed...you've been to pig farms and then your Grannies have poultry farms...hmmm...is this how you want to put credibility to your weak arguments? Im beginning to doubt your stories to be honest with you. Where else have you been too...asucena restos...you've been there too? yeah better shu up, nice idea.

maybe you should read again about that "ongoing research" you have there.. hehe.. is it really about the
dirty environment? or open space, fresher air, and sunshine? plus reducing the cost of production? is it called farrowing? hehe..

FYI, I have read it and was so happy about it. The data shows that pigs are healthier in dirty environment than a clean one. You know the reason behind this? Hope this wont shock you...Because by nature pigs love dirt.

let me tell you what they eat in a controlled environment:

>2-7 gallons of water per day per l00 pounds
>grains for energy containing 75-90% of total feed ration
>protein 14-15% of ration for growing
>finishing period, 16-18% for growing pigs under l00 pounds
>12-14% for finishing hogs over 170 pounds
>Vitamins and minerals should be provided as a mix or by access to pasture grasses, roots, soil, or sunshine
>Vitamins A, D, E, K, B-Series and other vitamins plus iron, calcium, phosphorus and other minerals are needed.
>Salt is required in a feed ration of 0.24% of feed ration maxium and fat should only be 10% of the ration.

but thats just for the pigs i know.. but in anyways, i do understand your frustrations about pigs that eat their sh*t.. hehe..

That's nice...but still there is NO assurance that they wont eat their own sh*t. Oh no...im not frustrated at all because i dont eat pork.


By nature pigs love dirt. Thats why they eat their own sh*t. Here are another interesting facts about pigs.

They also eat their own kind. I dont know but as far as know i have never seen dogs eating dog meat. But pigs hmm they eat their own kind.

Pigs are lazy by nature thats why there fat is so dangerous to human health.

Ever heard of the expressions...lubog na pod ay and Ka baboy nimo ug batasan oi?

[JX]

I'm forced to do it this way-quote for quote- to minimize the percentage of you being caught in confusion. Giving a rebuttal for inaccurate statement like what you did is like arguing to a mental patient. Sure let's continue...nice move!

uhm.. didnt i just copy and pasted your own statements? therefore, your statement, your confusion.. hehe..

There goes the magic word 'moderation' but this word can not really give us the assurance. Canned goods taken moderately or not contain cancerous ingredients and that's the point. Sorry your magic word is no good when science is involve.

anybody who has consumed canned goods say aye.. aye! aye! aye!.. all those who said aye, do you all have cancer? say aye.. otherwise say nay.. nay! nay! nay! hehe..

do you have any idea about carcinogens? asbestos, DDT, and tobacco smoke?.. hehe..
i remember my sisters thesis was about carcinogens, she learned scuba diving bec of those darn algae.. but she won an award for that.. hehe..

dont be too excited now...you are still entangled by your own carelessness. Again focus...the point is this, I dont care how dirty human flesh are, as long as We i mean I dont take it as part of my diet, I have no problem with that. Again giving rebuttal to a misinformed statement is like arguing to a mental patient.

"entangled by my own carelessness?" im sorry but i dont see the connection.. but yet, still no answer.. is it so hard? its only yes or no.. hehe..

You see i have no time to explain to you about doctrines and ruling when it comes to Muslims eating pork because I'm sure your head would turn around. But as a general rule Muslims dont eat pork. I pity you because you take your points on things that are not so significant in relation to the discussion we are having. Are you sa bisaya pa nangapa ug mga tubag tungod kay nahutdan naka?.

or rather my head would roll? hehe.. you pity me because i have a point? why thank you.. hehe..

Well i didn get it because Im normal. Maybe you have an I.Q that is too way up for a normal guy...Maybe you have a 'beauiful mind'. I saw that movie.

well i havent seen that movie sorry.. cant relate.. and i have a low I.Q. but not too low that petty reasonings are easily accepted.. hehe..

well medical facts says its dirty and the mere fact that it is being controlled and monitored gives you the idea that there is really something in there that causes disease and medical facts can prove it that even with all the safety measures done still the risk is there and pigs are still one of the major source of deadly diseases. Have you seen news lately?

again, sentido comun.. hehe.. everything organic is bound to be infected in some way or the other..

oh sorry...but i do have friends from the medical field. Your palusot wont work here. I also have friends with relatives who are instructed by the doctors never to eat pork again or else they go below 6 feet under. Your justification is too weak my friend.

and if they dont eat pork they'll not go 6 feet under? hehe..
again, what causes high blood pressure? simply pork? well your friends must be interns.. hehe..

you know what...Im amazed...you've been to pig farms and then your Grannies have poultry farms...hmmm...is this how you want to put credibility to your weak arguments? Im beginning to doubt your stories to be honest with you. Where else have you been too...asucena restos...you've been there too? yeah better shu up, nice idea.

well at least at some point you believed my made up stories.. hehe..
well one summertime, we were on our way to malapascua and my sis's barkada worked for a piggery farm as an accountant, and the site was just along the way heading north..
whats cool with that farm is they convert pig sh*t into methane.. pigs might just lick a little on their sh*t on that farm.. hehe..

FYI, I have read it and was so happy about it. The data shows that pigs are healthier in dirty environment than a clean one. You know the reason behind this? Hope this wont shock you...Because by nature pigs love dirt.

oh please.. try reading more about farrowing.. try reading more on mud rooting.. im sorry but this seems like talking to a kid.. hehe..

That's nice...but still there is NO assurance that they wont eat their own sh*t. Oh no...im not frustrated at all because i dont eat pork.

why have you taken cared of one pig at all? just curios.. hehe..

By nature pigs love dirt. Thats why they eat their own sh*t. Here are another interesting facts about pigs.

objection:

irrelevant to the case of pigs being dirty. if thats the case, the chicken as an omnivore and a scavenger must also be dirty..

read less, more tv.. -house

hehe..

They also eat their own kind. I dont know but as far as know i have never seen dogs eating dog meat. But pigs hmm they eat their own kind.

well what you dont know, do happen.. learn more about scavengers.. hehe..

Pigs are lazy by nature thats why there fat is so dangerous to human health.
Ever heard of the expressions...lubog na pod ay and Ka baboy nimo ug batasan oi?

derogatory cliches which are untrue.. heard about "sweat like a pig"? well pigs dont sweat at all.. they need to wallow in mud baths to cool off.. which lead to unjustified reputation as dirty animals.. as you said, pigs are intelligent animals.. equal or even superior to dogs.. and actually, if given the choice, they refuse to excrete waste in their living or eating areas..

-Humane Society of the US (HSUS.org)

The great thing is to last and get your work done, and see and hear and understand and write when there is something that you know and not before and not too damn much after. -Hemingway

[Malic]

uhm.. didnt i just copy and pasted your own statements? therefore, your statement, your confusion.. hehe..

my statement was fine. Consistency was there but your disappointment led you to look for a hole in what i said and finding none you resorted into taking points from irrelevant side issues. hehe...uh uh careful now...here comes the trick of the spin doctor.

anybody who has consumed canned goods say aye.. aye! aye! aye!.. all those who said aye, do you all have cancer? say aye.. otherwise say nay.. nay! nay! nay! hehe..

do you have any idea about carcinogens? asbestos, DDT, and tobacco smoke?.. hehe..
i remember my sisters thesis was about carcinogens, she learned scuba diving bec of those darn algae.. but she won an award for that.. hehe..

hahahaha...this is what I have pointed out from the very start. You have this bad habit of stretching a point beyond the scope of its premise. Get this..." ALL CANNED GOODS CONTAINED CANCEROUS INGREDIENT".

disappointed na jud...abot naka ug tobacco asbestos ug oban pa...Focus pls...confuse indeed!

learn the proper rule of debates. ting ting...a flagrant violation committed by JX.

"entangled by my own carelessness?" im sorry but i dont see the connection.. but yet, still no answer.. is it so hard? its only yes or no.. hehe..

oh now you want to sway this discussion from your confusion? tsk tsk...I dont eat human flesh, so whats the point? I dont see the connection of bringing up this issue. Dirty or not its irrelevant, why? because I dont eat human flesh. Ikaw kaon ka? hahaha...dont play your trick om me mr. spin doctor. Is not working.

or rather my head would roll? hehe.. you pity me because i have a point? why thank you.. hehe..

oh now this is humor. Sure, a point that you alone knew. hahaha

well i havent seen that movie sorry.. cant relate.. and i have a low I.Q. but not too low that petty reasonings are easily accepted.. hehe..

really?...because you remind me of the movie.

again, sentido comun.. hehe.. everything organic is bound to be infected in some way or the other..

but nothing like pigs, they are so fatal.

and if they dont eat pork they'll not go 6 feet under? hehe..
again, what causes high blood pressure? simply pork? well your friends must be interns.. hehe..

oh here again...trying to stay away from the real issue. The premise is...A person with a high blood pressure and the doctor would tell them not to eat pork because they might go six feet under. Get it? hehe. But look how you rebutted my statement? tsk tsk...again you are stretching the point beyond its premise.

well at least at some point you believed my made up stories.. hehe..
well one summertime, we were on our way to malapascua and my sis's barkada worked for a piggery farm as an accountant, and the site was just along the way heading north..
whats cool with that farm is they convert pig sh*t into methane.. pigs might just lick a little on their sh*t on that farm.. hehe..

Got you...should I again believed this story? you just stripped your honor right here. Pig's shit into methane or whatever...still it can not change the fact that pigs eat their own shit.

oh please.. try reading more about farrowing.. try reading more on mud rooting.. im sorry but this seems like talking to a kid.. hehe..

hahaha here again a proof that you want to shift the argument to avoid my point. Very lame I must say. Its not about farrowing at all. It was a study about how to give pigs a healthier environment. It shows that they are more healthy in a dirty environment. yucks...!

why have you taken cared of one pig at all? just curios.. hehe..

well like what you said...sentido comun...there is no assurance.

objection:

irrelevant to the case of pigs being dirty. if thats the case, the chicken as an omnivore and a scavenger must also be dirty..

read less, more tv.. -house

hehe..



well what you dont know, do happen.. learn more about scavengers.. hehe..

but not as dirty as the pigs...not as fatal as pigs. Thats the point i was pointing out since this discussion started.

derogatory cliches which are untrue.. heard about "sweat like a pig"? well pigs dont sweat at all.. they need to wallow in mud baths to cool off.. which lead to unjustified reputation as dirty animals.. as you said, pigs are intelligent animals.. equal or even superior to dogs.. and actually, if given the choice, they refuse to excrete waste in their living or eating areas..

-Humane Society of the US (HSUS.org)

The great thing is to last and get your work done, and see and hear and understand and write when there is something that you know and not before and not too damn much after. -Hemingway

hahahahahaha, untrue? wow! where have you been lately my boy? Your want of justification made a fool out of you to the point that you want to spread a lie. What do you mean derogatory cliches w/c are untrue? hahaha. bungol siguro ka.

theory vs reality...pigs excrete and eat their shit...himoon man gani usahay ug higdaanan. yucks...

By nature pigs love dirt. and still they eat their own sh*t.



Here is something that you need to understand...

There are people or culture that has no appetite for dogs and cats and there are also a group of people who has no appetite for pigs because they consider swine to be a dirty animal. Meditate upon this truth JX and everything will go fine ...relax and chill...


Have you seen the news on TV lately?



You know what, I must say that your gay-wit is very entertaining, try to audition for a comedy act, comedy bars are IN nowadays. This is not the right place for your gift.

[Malic]

They eat almost anything.


wala lang nako gidako ang pic kay basin ma misunderstood ninyo. Im not here to discredit any pig farms or discouraging any people here not to eat pigs. My only point is...pls dont force us to think that pigs are clean.

[NASYO]

i tried not to eat pig anymore.
mura'g niga-an gamay akong gibati.
niga-an sad akong timbang.

i guess i'm more healthy na sukad wala nay mamoy akong gika-on.

[kebot]

They eat almost anything.


wala lang nako gidako ang pic kay basin ma misunderstood ninyo. Im not here to discredit any pig farms or discouraging any people here not to eat pigs. My only point is...pls dont force us to think that pigs are clean.

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Your posts is very informative one. Unfortunately we cannot force people to think Islam is a Peaceful Religion as what you have intended to do. But at least you made your point.


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I would love to see verses on your scriptures bro with you explaining things, you know why? Qouran is your foundation and you better stick with your foundation to make things Credible for Qouran not to take stories from the Bible. I believe you are the best person who can explain it and I hope you will. I want to understand MUSLIMS why they felt different and passionate on this matter of things.

There is so much mis-understanding that leads to violence. Lets then try to learn it. I hope we will.

[Malic]

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Your posts is very informative one. Unfortunately we cannot force people to think Islam is a Peaceful Religion as what you have intended to do. But at least you made your point.


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I would love to see verses on your scriptures bro with you explaining things, you know why? Qouran is your foundation and you better stick with your foundation to make things Credible for Qouran not to take stories from the Bible. I believe you are the best person who can explain it and I hope you will. I want to understand MUSLIMS why they felt different and passionate on this matter of things.

There is so much mis-understanding that leads to violence. Lets then try to learn it. I hope we will.

thank you...

Im not forcing anyone to believe that Islam is a peaceful religion. My problem lies in their irresponsible remarks about Islam. Believe it or not most of these people never even bothered to open the Qur'an or search for a balance view.

Reality is, these people heard a few stuff about Islam and they think that thats it. Islam is this and that...but whats their basis? Hollywood? western news? American-Jews? Zionists?