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    millions of pipol fought there lives just of faith we are morbid creatures in this world that cant live together....

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Thank you! GOD bless!

    hmm, i smell luv in the air, maybe the two of you are luvers in the previous lifetime, just guessing

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    The Real god of the Masonic Lodge Home

    "He shall honour the God of forces: a god whom his fathers knew not"... he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws Dan:7:25;11:38

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    "The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine." (Albert Pike)

    [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/REDTIG%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.jpg[/IMG] From what we have learned, one would half expect to see Lucifer lurking around somewhere in the Freemasonry Organization just as he is in the New Age Movement! ...and if that thought has already crossed your mind, you would be right! Manly P. Hall, a 33rd degree Mason, tells us on pg. 48 of his book Lost Keys of Freemasonry, who the real God of Freemasonry is: "When a Mason learns that the Key is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, the seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply this energy."
    Washington DC.'s Masonic "House of the Temple" is the headquarters for the Scottish Rite Temple, which is the World's largest Masonic Organization. It is here that the Masons receive their "honorable" 33rd degree. There are actually 2 golden serpents behind the main altar in Washington DC.'s "House of the Temple".
    We previously learned that Masons do their rituals facing East. When a Satanic Ritual is performed, and the Princes of Hell are called forth, Lucifer, the "light-Bearer" is the god that is called in "from the East". -Anton Szandor LaVey, The Satanic Bible, pg. 131, 57 And in the book called "The Treasury of Witchcraft," pg. 170,171, by Harry E. Wedeck, we are told that Lucifer the Light-Bearer "has his home in the East". We can see Lucifer's presence all over the Rituals and symbols of Freemasonry!

    ALBERT PIKE SPEAKS

    [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/REDTIG%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image002.jpg[/IMG] Albert Pike, a highly revered 33rd degree Mason, issued this statement on July 14, 1889 to the 23 Supreme Councils of the World: "That which we must say to the crowd is: We worship a God, but it is the God one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees: The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine." -Albert Pike
    Des Griffin quotes Lady Queensborough's book, "Occult Theocrasy," that records Albert Pike's own words: "Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay (Jehovah) is also God. For the eternal Law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black. For the Absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue and the brake to the locomotive. The doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic Religion 'is the belief in Lucifer,' the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil." (La Femme et L' enfant dans La Frac-Maconnerie Universelle, by A.C. De La Rive, pg. 588, and Occult Theocrasy, by Lady Queensborough, pg. 220,221) Quoted from Fourth Reich of the Rich, Griffin, pg. 70,71
    Take notice of the ideas presented here by Albert Pike. He is saying that there is an "Absolute" composed of both darkness and light. This of course refers to the pantheistic idea that "God" is a force that pervades throughout all Nature and is both a negative and positive or dark and light force. This is the very same idea that is found in the New Age Religion! Then if that were not bad enough, Pike goes on to say that the "Two Gods" are in a struggle to win the souls of humanity. This of course is the same thought we find in Mithraism, which was ancient Sun Worship, where Lucifer and Jehovah struggle for humanity, but in the end, Lucifer wins!
    Albert Pike continues on abusing the truth on page 567 of his book, "Morals and Dogma" by saying, "To prevent the light from escaping at once, the Demons forbade Adam to eat the fruit of 'knowledge of good and evil,' by which he would have known the Empire of Light and that of Darkness. He obeyed; and Angel of Light induced him to transgress, and gave him the means of victory; but the Demons created Eve, who seduced him into an act of Sensualism, that enfeebled him, and bound him anew in the bonds of matter."
    The entire statement that Albert Pike made is heresy! He turns the truth upside down, making Lucifer out to be an "Angel of Light" who just wanted Adam to have the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, and then if that isn't quite bad enough, he tries to turn Jehovah God into a "demon!"
    William Josiah reports: "Very few Masons know that Albert Pike, the highest authority of Freemasonry, the Prince Adept, Mystic Poet, and Scholar of Freemasonry, was himself also the head of the Palladist, another Secret Society which openly worshipped Lucifer and was bent on destroying Christianity, replacing it with the worship of Lucifer himself. Albert Pike the head of Freemasons, was also an apostle of Lucifer." -Carrico, quoting William Sutton, "Lucifer- Eliphas Levi -Albert Pike and the Masonic Lodge", pg. 16
    Occultist and 33rd degree Mason, Aurthur Edward Waite tells us that Albert Pike was called: "The Pontiff of Luciferian Freemasonry" -Waite, An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and of Cognate Instituted Mysteries: Their Rites, Literature and History, Vol. II, pg. 253
    Albert Pike, "The Pontiff of Luciferian Freemasonry" was the President of the Supreme Dogmatic Directory. In fact, by the year 1889 he even became even more important in the Masonic Organization: "Pike simultaneously occupied the positions of Grand Master of the Central Directory of Washington DC. (the head of the DC. Masonry), Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of Charleston (head of American Masonry), and Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry (head of World Masonry)." -William T. Still, New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies", pg. 124
    And there has been more recent praise by Masons of Albert Pike, coming from the very head of the Southern Jurisdiction of Masonry. Fred Kleinknecht, who is the Sovereign Grand Commander said, in the January 1989 issue of "The New Age" that the "apex" of our teachings has been the rituals of our degrees and Morals and Dogma (which was written by Albert Pike)." -"A Bridge to Light", Fred C. Kleinknecht, The New Age Magazine, January 1989 Vol. 97, pg. 1 It was Albert Pike who wrote all of the Masonic Rituals from the 4th to the 33rd degrees! -Henry S. Clausen, Messages for a Mission (Supreme Council, 1977) pg. 20
    In the November 1992 Issue of "The Scottish Rite Journal" (which by the way, was called "The New Age" from 1903 till 1990) Kleinknecht again praises Albert Pike and his book: "Correctly understood, Albert Pikes Morals and Dogma provides our brethren a stimulus to thought, a source of inspiration, and even an aid to Scottish Rite growth. Pike's great work is not the book of an hour, a decade, or a century. It is a book for all time... Abandon Morals and Dogma? Never!" Scottish Rite Journal, November 1992, Vol.100, Number 11, pg. 6
    And Finally here it is in plain English who "The Great Architect Of The Universe" that Masons worship really is: "Lucifer is the equal of the Adonay, with Lucifer the god of light and goodness struggled for humanity against *Adonay the God of Darkness and Evil. Albert Pike had only specified and unveiled dogmas of the high grades of all other Masonry's, for in no matter what rite, the Great Architect of the Universe is not the God worshipped by the Christians."Quote from Domenico Margiotta, a 33rd Degree Mason; William Still, New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies Page 123

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASONPALA View Post
    Freemasonry Lodge
    The Real god of the Masonic Lodge Home

    "He shall honour the God of forces: a god whom his fathers knew not"... he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws Dan:7:25;11:38

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    "The Masonic religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine." (Albert Pike)

    [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/REDTIG%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.jpg[/IMG] From what we have learned, one would half expect to see Lucifer lurking around somewhere in the Freemasonry Organization just as he is in the New Age Movement! ...and if that thought has already crossed your mind, you would be right! Manly P. Hall, a 33rd degree Mason, tells us on pg. 48 of his book Lost Keys of Freemasonry, who the real God of Freemasonry is: "When a Mason learns that the Key is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, the seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply this energy."
    Washington DC.'s Masonic "House of the Temple" is the headquarters for the Scottish Rite Temple, which is the World's largest Masonic Organization. It is here that the Masons receive their "honorable" 33rd degree. There are actually 2 golden serpents behind the main altar in Washington DC.'s "House of the Temple".
    We previously learned that Masons do their rituals facing East. When a Satanic Ritual is performed, and the Princes of Hell are called forth, Lucifer, the "light-Bearer" is the god that is called in "from the East". -Anton Szandor LaVey, The Satanic Bible, pg. 131, 57 And in the book called "The Treasury of Witchcraft," pg. 170,171, by Harry E. Wedeck, we are told that Lucifer the Light-Bearer "has his home in the East". We can see Lucifer's presence all over the Rituals and symbols of Freemasonry!

    ALBERT PIKE SPEAKS

    [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/REDTIG%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image002.jpg[/IMG] Albert Pike, a highly revered 33rd degree Mason, issued this statement on July 14, 1889 to the 23 Supreme Councils of the World: "That which we must say to the crowd is: We worship a God, but it is the God one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees: The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine." -Albert Pike
    Des Griffin quotes Lady Queensborough's book, "Occult Theocrasy," that records Albert Pike's own words: "Yes, Lucifer is God, and unfortunately Adonay (Jehovah) is also God. For the eternal Law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black. For the Absolute can only exist as two Gods: darkness being necessary to light to serve as its foil as the pedestal is necessary to the statue and the brake to the locomotive. The doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure philosophic Religion 'is the belief in Lucifer,' the equal of Adonay; but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the God of Darkness and Evil." (La Femme et L' enfant dans La Frac-Maconnerie Universelle, by A.C. De La Rive, pg. 588, and Occult Theocrasy, by Lady Queensborough, pg. 220,221) Quoted from Fourth Reich of the Rich, Griffin, pg. 70,71
    Take notice of the ideas presented here by Albert Pike. He is saying that there is an "Absolute" composed of both darkness and light. This of course refers to the pantheistic idea that "God" is a force that pervades throughout all Nature and is both a negative and positive or dark and light force. This is the very same idea that is found in the New Age Religion! Then if that were not bad enough, Pike goes on to say that the "Two Gods" are in a struggle to win the souls of humanity. This of course is the same thought we find in Mithraism, which was ancient Sun Worship, where Lucifer and Jehovah struggle for humanity, but in the end, Lucifer wins!
    Albert Pike continues on abusing the truth on page 567 of his book, "Morals and Dogma" by saying, "To prevent the light from escaping at once, the Demons forbade Adam to eat the fruit of 'knowledge of good and evil,' by which he would have known the Empire of Light and that of Darkness. He obeyed; and Angel of Light induced him to transgress, and gave him the means of victory; but the Demons created Eve, who seduced him into an act of Sensualism, that enfeebled him, and bound him anew in the bonds of matter."
    The entire statement that Albert Pike made is heresy! He turns the truth upside down, making Lucifer out to be an "Angel of Light" who just wanted Adam to have the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, and then if that isn't quite bad enough, he tries to turn Jehovah God into a "demon!"
    William Josiah reports: "Very few Masons know that Albert Pike, the highest authority of Freemasonry, the Prince Adept, Mystic Poet, and Scholar of Freemasonry, was himself also the head of the Palladist, another Secret Society which openly worshipped Lucifer and was bent on destroying Christianity, replacing it with the worship of Lucifer himself. Albert Pike the head of Freemasons, was also an apostle of Lucifer." -Carrico, quoting William Sutton, "Lucifer- Eliphas Levi -Albert Pike and the Masonic Lodge", pg. 16
    Occultist and 33rd degree Mason, Aurthur Edward Waite tells us that Albert Pike was called: "The Pontiff of Luciferian Freemasonry" -Waite, An Encyclopedia of Freemasonry and of Cognate Instituted Mysteries: Their Rites, Literature and History, Vol. II, pg. 253
    Albert Pike, "The Pontiff of Luciferian Freemasonry" was the President of the Supreme Dogmatic Directory. In fact, by the year 1889 he even became even more important in the Masonic Organization: "Pike simultaneously occupied the positions of Grand Master of the Central Directory of Washington DC. (the head of the DC. Masonry), Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of Charleston (head of American Masonry), and Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry (head of World Masonry)." -William T. Still, New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies", pg. 124
    And there has been more recent praise by Masons of Albert Pike, coming from the very head of the Southern Jurisdiction of Masonry. Fred Kleinknecht, who is the Sovereign Grand Commander said, in the January 1989 issue of "The New Age" that the "apex" of our teachings has been the rituals of our degrees and Morals and Dogma (which was written by Albert Pike)." -"A Bridge to Light", Fred C. Kleinknecht, The New Age Magazine, January 1989 Vol. 97, pg. 1 It was Albert Pike who wrote all of the Masonic Rituals from the 4th to the 33rd degrees! -Henry S. Clausen, Messages for a Mission (Supreme Council, 1977) pg. 20
    In the November 1992 Issue of "The Scottish Rite Journal" (which by the way, was called "The New Age" from 1903 till 1990) Kleinknecht again praises Albert Pike and his book: "Correctly understood, Albert Pikes Morals and Dogma provides our brethren a stimulus to thought, a source of inspiration, and even an aid to Scottish Rite growth. Pike's great work is not the book of an hour, a decade, or a century. It is a book for all time... Abandon Morals and Dogma? Never!" Scottish Rite Journal, November 1992, Vol.100, Number 11, pg. 6
    And Finally here it is in plain English who "The Great Architect Of The Universe" that Masons worship really is: "Lucifer is the equal of the Adonay, with Lucifer the god of light and goodness struggled for humanity against *Adonay the God of Darkness and Evil. Albert Pike had only specified and unveiled dogmas of the high grades of all other Masonry's, for in no matter what rite, the Great Architect of the Universe is not the God worshipped by the Christians."Quote from Domenico Margiotta, a 33rd Degree Mason; William Still, New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies Page 123
    So, what is you point here my friend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    So, what is you point here my friend?
    just to tell us that one can just copy and paste long passages -- and make it pass as a post.

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    nindot ang imo question bro.sakit man madunggan pero ang tinoud nilihis naman jud sa hustong dan ang mga tholic.....

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    When we do good we feel good When we do bad we feel bad Thats our religion.

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    for me man made bible 2,000 yrs ago, and christ came as a person and turn out to be a model . of course not all the story is true in the bible just like from the movie (the vinci code).
    of course during that time it was the great minds that created religion and the bible. it created pwer over others , whether in political or religion. People that time are too ignorant compared to now. so they can be diverted. of course despite it's well created false bible stories.
    it did gave mankind a big step forward. probaly the cause of fast development in just a mellinia.
    Howver as people learned the truth, most of what the bible said is turn out to be inconsistent , disregarding the helpful message it has. which is on the list of what i thought is false:
    1. the world is flat - which was defy by christopher columbus
    2. the earth is 6,000 yrs old. instead of 6billion ( they dont have no idea that time)
    3. the red sea separated wide openly (maybe in anime)
    4. noah's ark ( they did not include dinosaur thats why it became isnstict. how can human survie if there are dinossaurs before noah made the ark)
    5. adan and eve - from ashes and from ribs ( its a nice fairy tale, who taught them ***?)
    6. the Genesis , creating the world in six days ( maybe in online games)
    6 the reason why wars doesn't end is because most stories in the bible are fighting and killing ( that hurts really)
    7. so much more


    i know we all want the feeling of faith we need that , but i jus want to open that peole are defending it knowing they are blinding their self from reality.

    for me i dont want to say that you must stop doing what you do , bec its better to live there , than face the harshnes of life and reality.

    but of course as long as you dont violate other people then it wont relly matter.


    there are lots of religion around the world, what i dont like is they fight with each other , among all different gods --- they only send same mesage awareness.

    but through science i am able to appreciate how wonderful life itself created it own through billions of years. how gratefull i am to be in this world.

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    The Religion of the Future

    The religion which is to guide and fulfill the present and coming ages, whatever else it be, must be intellectual. The scientific mind must have a faith which is science. "There are two things," said Mahomet, "which I abhor, the learned in his infidelities and the fool in his devotions." Our times are impatient of both, and specially of the last. Let us have nothing now which is not its own evidence. There is surely enough for the heart and imagination in the religion itself.

    Let us not be pestered with assertions and half-truths, with emotions and snuffle.

    There will be a new church founded on moral science, at first cold and naked, a babe in a manner again, the algebra and mathematics of ethical law, the church of men to come, without shawms, or psaltery, or sackbut. But it will have heaven and earth for its beams and rafters, science for symbol and illustration; it will fast enough gather beauty, music, picture, poetry.

    Was never stoicism so stern and exigent as this shall be. It shall send man home to his central solitude, shame these social, supplicating manners, and make him know that much of the time he must have himself to his friend. He shall expect no cooperation, he shall walk with no companion. The nameless Thought, the nameless Power, the superpersonal Heart-he shall repose alone on that. He needs only his own verdict. No good fame can help, no bad fame can hurt him. The Laws are his consolers, the good Laws themselves are alive, they know if he have kept them, they animate him with the leading of great duty, and an endless horizon. Honor and fortune exist to him who always recognizes the neighborhood of the great, always feels himself in the presence of high causes.

    -from the Theosophical Digest no. 81 page 18

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    You guys have been longing for that for so long now.
    In that past that idea was in the future, in the future still it is an idea in the future. Though I agree on the idea, but on a different shade tainted by my current belief.

    *I used the word "tainted" for your amusement.

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