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    ^Ah tahay ba gud... sabot mo lang!

    Let me ask you, why are you asking in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    ^Ah tahay ba gud... sabot mo lang!

    Let me ask you, why are you asking in the first place?
    aw nakasabot diay ka? beh explain kuno beh...

    nganong nangutana ko ana? kay mao may topic diri! hahahaha!

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    aw nakasabot diay ka? beh explain kuno beh...
    We already did, I won't bark for you. If you still itch to read it and scrutinize those explanation, feel free to scour the internet. If you don't believe that I understand, not my fault not my problem.
    nganong nangutana ko ana? kay mao may topic diri! hahahaha!
    At first I laugh, honestly it made me smile, but then I realized.. YOU a stand up comedian? EPIC FAIL

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    let me ask you pein. have you ever kneeled when praying?

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    OT: why do ADD fanatics, are naruto fanatics pud? almost all of them. hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    ngano jud kaha mo bow down man sila anang mga rebulto noh nga wala manay mahimo.

    YouTube - Religious Statue Falls And Breaks In Church
    bow down man gani aw subra pas bow down kay naghapa man si joshua infront sa mga rebulto sa altar.. but that doesnt mean he's worshiping them..lolz

    wala dai ka kabasa ana sa inyo bible bro or bcn lain na ang nakasulat sa inyo bible bro kay inyo gpang.usab mao wa ka kabasa did2?..hehe
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabstafari View Post
    OT: why do ADD fanatics, are naruto fanatics pud? almost all of them. hahaha
    because

    uzumaki naruto = soriano eli

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    An idol is not the same as an image. An image may be a symbol, that is a physical representation, whether life-like or not, of non-physical being. 'Idol' is a pejorative term used by the followers of certain religions with the purpose of bringing other religions into contempt by suggesting that the images and symbols they worship are not in fact symbols but idols, that is to say, objects to which independent reality and sanctity are attributed. That implies that there can be no hard and fast rule when an object is an idol and when it is not. When independent divinity is attributed to an object it is being treated as an idol; when the same object is used as a support to concentrate the devotion of the worshipper and canalise the grace of God, it is a symbol. Therefore to use the term 'idol' indiscriminately is tendentious.


    However, the term 'idol' has come to be used in a wider connotation and need not necessarily imply an image or symbol; it can also mean a cause or idea. It is natural for man to give his allegiance to pure Being or a symbol of Being. When he ceases to do so he can either live for mere pleasure and convenience, like an animal, or switch his allegiance to some substitute, and this is idolatry, whether the substitute is in the form of an image or not.


    The lowest kind of idolatry is the worship of some other human being, some Hitler or Stalin or Mao Tse Tung, because worship of the human degrades one to the subhuman level. This does not apply, of course, to a disciple's worship of his Guru, because it is not the human but the superhuman that he is worshipping in the Guru; he is not worshipping him as a man but as a manifestation of the Divine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    An idol is not the same as an image. An image may be a symbol, that is a physical representation, whether life-like or not, of non-physical being. 'Idol' is a pejorative term used by the followers of certain religions with the purpose of bringing other religions into contempt by suggesting that the images and symbols they worship are not in fact symbols but idols, that is to say, objects to which independent reality and sanctity are attributed. That implies that there can be no hard and fast rule when an object is an idol and when it is not. When independent divinity is attributed to an object it is being treated as an idol; when the same object is used as a support to concentrate the devotion of the worshipper and canalise the grace of God, it is a symbol. Therefore to use the term 'idol' indiscriminately is tendentious.


    However, the term 'idol' has come to be used in a wider connotation and need not necessarily imply an image or symbol; it can also mean a cause or idea. It is natural for man to give his allegiance to pure Being or a symbol of Being. When he ceases to do so he can either live for mere pleasure and convenience, like an animal, or switch his allegiance to some substitute, and this is idolatry, whether the substitute is in the form of an image or not.


    The lowest kind of idolatry is the worship of some other human being, some Hitler or Stalin or Mao Tse Tung, because worship of the human degrades one to the subhuman level. This does not apply, of course, to a disciple's worship of his Guru, because it is not the human but the superhuman that he is worshipping in the Guru; he is not worshipping him as a man but as a manifestation of the Divine.

    but a real guru would never want any of his disciples to bow down to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    but a real guru would never want any of his disciples to bow down to him.
    Yes bro and that's what Jiddu Krishnamurti admonished!

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