Is the Catholic Church a Christian Church ?

[Traditz]

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If that is the case, then it cannot exist after death but only in this world!

why not? naa man ta'y souls di ba? og ato'ng souls kay immortal man di ba? naa ma'y souls nga bad when they died, so ang ma-experience ana nga soul kay eternal nga separation from God, mao na ni-ingun si JPII nga state of being ang hell, state of being siya sa soul.

[st.anthony]

well i think we should understand the sate of life now, and the sate of life after death? we can experience hell, heaven and purgatory in our current life. but after death then we will have the experience of these states of life, however we could not yet prove the real hell or heaven or purgatory after death since no one has ever experienced it and then came back after a short vacation, all we know it that is it written in the bible and has been taught in church tradition

[regnauld]

SEE now you have the popes exact statements, YES there is a HELL forever. Cus we have the 1st judgement which is directly after death then the final judgement when Christ returns to judge the living and dead

Hell as forever is just only a belief and not grounded on Truth!

[Traditz]

How can there be hell in after life when in fact the soul is created in the image and likeness of GOD? The ESSENCE of the soul is ONE with GOD and therefore cannot be destroyed!

there can be a hell in the afterlife because the soul has the freedom to choose God's love or reject it. ma-adto ta sa Hell kung ato'ng gi-reject ang gugma sa Ginoo. pero will ni God nga mu-duol ta niya og mu-commune ta niya, dili siya ganahan nga mahilayo ta niya forever.

dili ma-destroy ang soul, "it" will live forever, mao na nga naa'y eternal torment kay eternal man ang experience sa soul nga layo siya sa Ginoo.

[st.anthony]

Yes your correct it could not be destroyed, but can suffer. and yes we are created in his likeness but it does not mean that all of us can go to heaven and be saved

[regnauld]

why not? naa man ta'y souls di ba? og ato'ng souls kay immortal man di ba? naa ma'y souls nga bad when they died, so ang ma-experience ana nga soul kay eternal nga separation from God, mao na ni-ingun si JPII nga state of being ang hell, state of being siya sa soul.

Are you sure there are souls who are bad? Maybe you are only referring to man's action but not the soul per se is bad! NO SOUL IS BAD only the ACTIONS of men but not his ESSENCE which is his SOUL for GOD created the soul according to his image and likeness and therefore, GOOD!

[Traditz]

Hell as forever is just only a belief and not grounded on Truth!

just because dili ta ganahan sa idea sa hell, doesn't mean wala siya nag-exist.

[st.anthony]

thats what i fear of hell cus our souls could be destroyed we will be suffering from that unfathomable fires of hell that will consume us; and much more scary is on the final judgement in which body and soul will suffer forever

[regnauld]

just because dili ta ganahan sa idea sa hell, doesn't mean wala siya nag-exist.

How come it exists when GOD created man in his image and likeness? If there is hell and there will be people who will be condemned to hell, then GOD is contradicting himself!

[st.anthony]

NOPE your opinion is not correct that no soul is bad even if we are created in the likeness of GOD since we have the freedom to choose. Our soul and body have the same freedom to choose since its one even with different essence. When we do bad things both physical and soul or spirit have comitted them not just the physical body