Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) Discussion: Inquiries and Information.

[maddox22]

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mao ba...wa ko khbaw ug kinsay una nila..

unsa man kaayo ang commandment ni Jesus Christ nga gi practise pa kaau karon..

Mas una gipakatao si Moses sa kalibutan. But even before the worlds were created, Jesus Christ was already with God and took part in the creation.

Of course his name during the Old Testament was not 'Jesus Christ'. He was Jehovah in the Old Testament. He appeared and/or spoke to Abraham, Moses, Elijah, etc... and those prophets of old. He was acting under his Father's direction.

Moses and the other prophets in the Old Testament prophesied about the coming of Jesus Christ. Ipakatao siya sa kalibutan to save us from our sins.

[YellowSubmarine]

Dli bro mas una pa c JESUS CHRIST kaysa ni MOISES bro......
Dghan ug COMMANDMENTS c JESUS......Giwala naman gani nya ang 10% ug ang SABBATH DAY.....

wa giwala oi

asa ka kabasa sa bibliya na giwala?

[YellowSubmarine]

abt jesus: for them, jesus is NOT JUST AN ORDINARY HUMAN. watever that means, dont ask me kay nakalimot nako ato ilang explanation daghan verses, etc which im not really buying.

daghan pasikot-sikot no just to prove Jesus is not God.. but to prove Jesus is God pwede ra jud one verse

[Malic]

I'm not a theology expert. All I can tell you is that I know he is our savior. He is a member of the Godhead: God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. He is our God. We answer to him.

You can search it in Google about more theological insights about Jesus Christ. This is the one I find to be probably the best explanation out there and one I agree: Jesus Christ

Probably the simplest analogy is this:
For example you loaned a huge amount of money from someone. Say 1,000,000.00 pesos. And you signed a contract for the loan. Imo supposedly bayran within 1 year.

So lipay kaayo ka. Then happy-happy dayon! But nilapas na ang 1 year nahurot nimo ug gasto ang 1M. Karon naningil na imo gi-utangan. Ang problema wala na kay ikabayad.

So the lender wants 'Justice'. If dili ka makabayad karon, kinahanglan ka ipa-priso kay nakasulat sa contract.

You want 'Mercy'. Nangayo ka ug kaluoy sa lender nga dili ka ipa-priso.

So there's a conflict between Justice and Mercy. Two important principles in life. If maluoy ang lender sa imo then ma satisfy ang Mercy but ang Justice mu-suffer. If ipa-priso ka then ma-satisfy ang Justice but ang Mercy mu-suffer.

Unsa ma'y solution?

Maayo gani naa kay amigo! Ni-offer imo amigo nga siya ang mubayad sa 1M nga utang para dili ka ma-priso.

So nabayran ang lender - na satisfy ang Justice. And wala na ka napriso - na satisfy ang Mercy.

But karon kinahanglan ka gihapon mubayad sa imong amigo. Ingon imo migo nga pwede ko nimo bayaran hinay-hinay. Anam-anama lang ug bayad. (Ninduta ug naa ta ani nga amigo gyud no )

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So we can say the lender is God. He has set a law that "no unclean thing can enter His kingdom". Ang katong amigo or mediator is Jesus Christ.

Since ang tao makasala man gyud but sa law sa Ginuo kung makasala ta dili na ta kabalik sa iyang giningharian. Jesus Christ stands as the Mediator. He was sent to earth to answer for our sins.

So thanks to him we now have a way back to God's kingdom. But since iya tang gi-tubag, then we answer to him now. We can pay him through keeping his commandments.

Flawed...


Abi nako according sa inyo theology si Jesus ug amahan osa ra? so duna diay conflict sa will? Ang gusto sa Amahan e punish ta apan ang gusto ni Jesus siya motubus nato? Unsa diay ni nga Ginoo split personality?


Nya imo jud anak maoy imo ipapatay para lang malowas ang naay utang? This is a twisted brand of Mercy and Justice.

What about this... Ikaw nakasala ikaw bayad. Wa kay ikabayad? well tabangan ka sa Gnioo para makabayad ka but kinahanglan mo sunod ka sa iyang isugo nimo.

Illustration.

naa koy utang 1m. nya e priso ko himo ko ug contract nga ako na bayran then ni demand ang lender nga dapat trabahoan nimo ang imong utang, so ni deal ka sa contract then sugod naka ug bayad by serving the lender. Dili kay imo ipapatay imong anak in exchanged sa utang sa nangutanang nimo.

dakong binoang.

[ferdM16]

About sa tithes, sa una ila man gyud ni gi implement, naa pa gani percentage sa ilang income.
pero sa kadugayan nagrebelde na sila, labi na karon kay krisis na...

[NASYO]

Dli bro mas una pa c JESUS CHRIST kaysa ni MOISES bro......
Dghan ug COMMANDMENTS c JESUS......Giwala naman gani nya ang 10% ug ang SABBATH DAY.....

prove kuno bro.

[merijaan]

Mas una gipakatao si Moses sa kalibutan. But even before the worlds were created, Jesus Christ was already with God and took part in the creation.

Of course his name during the Old Testament was not 'Jesus Christ'. He was Jehovah in the Old Testament. He appeared and/or spoke to Abraham, Moses, Elijah, etc... and those prophets of old. He was acting under his Father's direction.

Moses and the other prophets in the Old Testament prophesied about the coming of Jesus Christ. Ipakatao siya sa kalibutan to save us from our sins.

OMG

Jesus christ was already with GOD and took part in the creation

karon pa ko kadungog ani..

[YJOB]

Mga bro ko nga Iglesia...

Correct me if I'm wrong, you believe nga usa ra ang Ginoo. That would be the father of Jesus Christ. Sakto?

And you believe that Jesus Christ is not a God but a mere human or anything but a God. Sakto?

And you also believe that the Holy Ghost is also not a God. Sakto?

Question:

How do you explain Gen. 1:26 (King's James version) - "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"

Question:

Who was speaking? If that is God then who was he talking to? Notice the use of 'US' and 'OUR'? Wala sad siguro siya nagkig-storya sa iyang kaugalingon no?

Maybe He was talking to His assistant, or treasurer, secretary or auditor.
They may not have powers like Him but they can have the same image and likeness.
Saying us and our does not neccessarily mean that He was talking to His co-Admins or co-Gods.



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[Malic]

Mas una gipakatao si Moses sa kalibutan. But even before the worlds were created, Jesus Christ was already with God and took part in the creation.

Of course his name during the Old Testament was not 'Jesus Christ'. He was Jehovah in the Old Testament. He appeared and/or spoke to Abraham, Moses, Elijah, etc... and those prophets of old. He was acting under his Father's direction.

Moses and the other prophets in the Old Testament prophesied about the coming of Jesus Christ. Ipakatao siya sa kalibutan to save us from our sins.

Sir you got yourself confuse.

Dili jud na puede nga ang name nga Jehovah mao'y ipagnalan ni Jesus bisan sa Old testament pa.

Asa man ka ana kuha sir?

[Malic]

Question:

How do you explain Gen. 1:26 (King's James version) - "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness"

Question:

Who was speaking? If that is God then who was he talking to? Notice the use of 'US' and 'OUR'? Wala sad siguro siya nagkig-storya sa iyang kaugalingon no?


@Maddox

Sir kanang US diha dili na pasabot nga daghan sila oi. Mao kanay gitawag ug PLURALITY of respect.