Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) Discussion: Inquiries and Information.

[merijaan]

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I'm not a theology expert. All I can tell you is that I know he is our savior. He is a member of the Godhead: God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. He is our God. We answer to him.

You can search it in Google about more theological insights about Jesus Christ. This is the one I find to be probably the best explanation out there and one I agree: Jesus Christ

Probably the simplest analogy is this:
For example you loaned a huge amount of money from someone. Say 1,000,000.00 pesos. And you signed a contract for the loan. Imo supposedly bayran within 1 year.

So lipay kaayo ka. Then happy-happy dayon! But nilapas na ang 1 year nahurot nimo ug gasto ang 1M. Karon naningil na imo gi-utangan. Ang problema wala na kay ikabayad.

So the lender wants 'Justice'. If dili ka makabayad karon, kinahanglan ka ipa-priso kay nakasulat sa contract.

You want 'Mercy'. Nangayo ka ug kaluoy sa lender nga dili ka ipa-priso.

So there's a conflict between Justice and Mercy. Two important principles in life. If maluoy ang lender sa imo then ma satisfy ang Mercy but ang Justice mu-suffer. If ipa-priso ka then ma-satisfy ang Justice but ang Mercy mu-suffer.

Unsa ma'y solution?

Maayo gani naa kay amigo! Ni-offer imo amigo nga siya ang mubayad sa 1M nga utang para dili ka ma-priso.

So nabayran ang lender - na satisfy ang Justice. And wala na ka napriso - na satisfy ang Mercy.

But karon kinahanglan ka gihapon mubayad sa imong amigo. Ingon imo migo nga pwede ko nimo bayaran hinay-hinay. Anam-anama lang ug bayad. (Ninduta ug naa ta ani nga amigo gyud no )

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So we can say the lender is God. He has set a law that "no unclean thing can enter His kingdom". Ang katong amigo or mediator is Jesus Christ.

Since ang tao makasala man gyud but sa law sa Ginuo kung makasala ta dili na ta kabalik sa iyang giningharian. Jesus Christ stands as the Mediator. He was sent to earth to answer for our sins.

So thanks to him we now have a way back to God's kingdom. But since iya tang gi-tubag, then we answer to him now. We can pay him through keeping his commandments.

--question again bro....Unsa diay commandments ni Jesus Christ?...di lagi ko familiar ani...
kato ra 10 commandments akong nahibaw an kang moses...wa pa man si jesus ato dba

[vulture08]

Dli bro mas una pa c JESUS CHRIST kaysa ni MOISES bro......
Dghan ug COMMANDMENTS c JESUS......Giwala naman gani nya ang 10% ug ang SABBATH DAY.....

[angelfyre]

Mao cguro mag check attendance na cla kay para sa MONITORING sa ilang mga myembro....

monitoring kung kinsay namugnaw, para bisitahon ug pangutan-on why nabugnaw cla ug wa na mosamba...para matambagan sa ilang probs, etc

[vulture08]

ahh..ana diay na? INC diay ka SIS?

tnx 4 da INFO ha....

[maddox22]

monitoring kung kinsay namugnaw, para bisitahon ug pangutan-on why nabugnaw cla ug wa na mosamba...para matambagan sa ilang probs, etc

but ngano naa may multa kung ma-late or ma-absent? as in mubayad ka ug kwarta.

[gabstafari]

very good compliment for vulture. mao nay sakto!! haha

[merijaan]

Dli bro mas una pa c JESUS CHRIST kaysa ni MOISES bro......
Dghan ug COMMANDMENTS c JESUS......Giwala naman gani nya ang 10% ug ang SABBATH DAY.....

mao ba...wa ko khbaw ug kinsay una nila..

unsa man kaayo ang commandment ni Jesus Christ nga gi practise pa kaau karon..

[angelfyre]

but ngano naa may multa kung ma-late or ma-absent? as in mubayad ka ug kwarta.

im not inc. i have a roommate and a close friend who is one. no dili na tinuod na mubayad ka oi. nakatry kog kuyog sa ilang pamamahayag, adto didto tubagon tanan nimong pangutana. ni try pd kog kuyog sa ilang simba2 for curiosity. ok man. wa gane samok nuon kay manira man sila.

so my advice sa tanang daghang questions abt inc, adto mo didto pangutana sa ilang pastor. ganahan man cla kung naay bisita.

abt sa tithes: not true. prehas ras catholics, mohatag kag pila ra imong gusto. kung wa kay ikahatag, aw wa gud

abt jesus: for them, jesus is NOT JUST AN ORDINARY HUMAN. watever that means, dont ask me kay nakalimot nako ato ilang explanation daghan verses, etc which im not really buying.

[maddox22]

--question again bro....Unsa diay commandments ni Jesus Christ?...di lagi ko familiar ani...
kato ra 10 commandments akong nahibaw an kang moses...wa pa man si jesus ato dba

Tinuod daghan commandments si Jesus Christ. But when he was asked "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"

He answered:

1. "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength." (Mark 12:28-30)

2. "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." (Mark 12:31)

Para sa ako lang, siguro dali ra masabtan ang no. 2 and we have an idea how to show the we love our neighbor. But how do we show that we love God?

I believe these are the things I can do...

Perform the necessary steps for my salvation:
1. Have faith in Jesus Christ -- I must believe and know that he is my savior and because of him I have a way to go back to God's presence.
2. Repentance -- I must repent of my sins. But bisag makasala gihapon ta, dili lang ta madiscourage. Padayon lang gihapon ta ug strive to improve and overcome our sins and weaknesses.
3. Be baptized by someone who has the power and authority from God to perform the ordinance of baptism.
4. Recieve the Gift of the Holy Ghost -- let the Holy Ghost be my constant companion to guide me day to day and help me make the right choices.

Other things I can do would be:
1. Go to church regularly - at least once a week we need to show God nga naa ta'y igahin nga panahon para sa iyaha. I know others would say nga we don't have to go to church to worship God, we can worship him in our hearts. But the church is where we partake of the Sacrament (not the Catholic sacrament) and renew our covenants to God.
2. Pay my tithings - this is a commandment from God. And no, wala ni gi-tang-tang ni Jesus Christ. We need to give back from the blessings that we receive from Him. But make sure dili ra ni mupadulong sa bulsa sa inyo Pastor.
3. Help others know that Jesus Christ is their savior. Dili man siguro ta kinahanglan mag-wali tunga tunga sa kalsada or sa plaza independencia. In our own little ways we can help others sad to know about Jesus Christ.
4. Be true to your family. Be loyal to your wife / husband. Be a good parent. Be a good son. etc...
5. Be honest.

Daghan pa... It's not easy. We fail now and then, but the important thing is that we don't discouraged.

Hope this helps.

[maddox22]

im not inc. i have a roommate and a close friend who is one. no dili na tinuod na mubayad ka oi. nakatry kog kuyog sa ilang pamamahayag, adto didto tubagon tanan nimong pangutana. ni try pd kog kuyog sa ilang simba2 for curiosity. ok man. wa gane samok nuon kay manira man sila.

so my advice sa tanang daghang questions abt inc, adto mo didto pangutana sa ilang pastor. ganahan man cla kung naay bisita.

abt sa tithes: not true. prehas ras catholics, mohatag kag pila ra imong gusto. kung wa kay ikahatag, aw wa gud

abt jesus: for them, jesus is NOT JUST AN ORDINARY HUMAN. watever that means, dont ask me kay nakalimot nako ato ilang explanation daghan verses, etc which im not really buying.

Mao ba? Ambot sad kay naa man ko'y amigo sauna nga INC. He's whole family is INC. He told me nga naa daw na nga mga multa sa ilaha. Ma-absent and ma-late.

Pero siguro mas maayo bitaw didto ta mangutana sa ila mga ministro gyud.