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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Bro you have to learn this practical wisdom which is not found in your bible: EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED! (Tao Te Ching)
    Christians Do not Forget

    One old catechism says that our chief goal in life is to glorify and enjoy God forever. This is true. Scripture says that we were created for God’s glory and to proclaim his praises (1 Corinthians 10:31; Ephesians 1:11-12; 1 Peter 2:9). We exist to worship God, and in order to be genuine, this worship must come from the heart. It must be a genuine expression of our real feelings. We adore God above everything else, and we submit to his every command.

    It is Indeed beyond Wisdom.

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    kabalo na ko asa ni padulong nga topic...
    either mahimo na sad ning new age or debate na sad sa catholic ug protestants. hahayz...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao-xiao View Post
    kabalo na ko asa ni padulong nga topic...
    either mahimo na sad ning new age or debate na sad sa catholic ug protestants. hahayz...
    Mura diay ka si NOSTRADAMUS!

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    mao mn gud akong nakitan sa bolang krystal. ahehe. btaw ui... balik mo topic ui.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao-xiao View Post
    mao mn gud akong nakitan sa bolang krystal. ahehe. btaw ui... balik mo topic ui.
    OT: Patudlo ko brad sa imong bolang krystal beh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    @kebot What is your answer about? This thread asks about a question if saints including Mary, can hear us even if they are in heaven. I already gave an answer in the first page.
    Romans 6:23
    For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Based on this verse bro. If you die then you are a sinner. Every person in the Bible Died except one. You guess it Jesus Christ.

    The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other than God. The Bible nowhere encourages, or even mentions, believers asking individuals in Heaven for their prayers. Why, then, do many Catholic pray to Mary and/or the saints, or request their prayers? Catholics view Mary and saints as "intercessors" before God. They believe that a saint, who is glorified in Heaven, has more "direct access" to God than we do. Therefore, if a saint delivers a prayer to God, it is more effective than us praying to God directly. This concept is blatantly unbiblical. Hebrews 4:16 tells us that we, believers here on earth, can "...approach the throne of grace with confidence..."

    1 Timothy 2:5 declares, "For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." There is no one else that can mediate with God for us. If Jesus is the ONLY mediator, that indicates Mary and saints cannot be mediators. They cannot mediate our prayer requests to God. Further, the Bible tells us that Jesus Christ Himself is interceding for us before the Father, "Therefore He is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always lives to intercede for them" (Hebrews 7:25). With Jesus Himself interceding for us, why would we need Mary or the saints to intercede for us? Who would God listen to more closely than His Son? Romans 8:26-27 describes the Holy Spirit interceding for us. With the 2nd and 3rd members of the Trinity already interceding for us before the Father in Heaven, what possible need could there be to have Mary or the saints interceding for us?

    Is prayer to saints / Mary Biblical?

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    if you are a Catholic Bro this is where our worship differs. Its the doctrine bro. We dont pray to anyone except Christ. I am the way the truth and the life... Its clearly stated bro and you cannot find anyother way to worship and pray God via-proxy.

    What I am explaining is that Our way of worship is exclusive to Christ and Christ alone. That makes me convicted because everytime I confess I am at his mercy.

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    Bro I am just an ordinary guy. I play dota and yeah I play World of Warcraft. There is nothing special about me but when it comes to faith I will stand with it. If you ask me if I will die with my faith. I will definitely say YES. But im afraid to die bro.

    For the Catholic No Offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiao-xiao View Post
    kabalo na ko asa ni padulong nga topic...
    either mahimo na sad ning new age or debate na sad sa catholic ug protestants. hahayz...
    Bro. Yea this is possible. To avoid. Stop Destroying each one's Faith. Because in this Thread not one is ready for change. Its just a matter of who's knowledgeable and who's not.

    Well for me its the heart that matters not Wisdom to some Wisdom is everything. Then let it be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    Bro. Yea this is possible. To avoid. Stop Destroying each one's Faith. Because in this Thread not one is ready for change. Its just a matter of who's knowledgeable and who's not.

    Well for me its the heart that matters not Wisdom to some Wisdom is everything. Then let it be.
    Don't you know that there is a BOOK OF WISDOM in the BIBLE? I think you are just contradicting yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Don't you know that there is a BOOK OF WISDOM in the BIBLE? I think you are just contradicting yourself!
    Book of what? can you be more specific. or is it WISDOM as proper noun. if thats the case... No. there is no book in the Jewish Bible as Book of Wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Don't you know that there is a BOOK OF WISDOM in the BIBLE? I think you are just contradicting yourself!
    BIBLE ABOUT WISDOM

    The Lord has said: "These people praise me with their words, but they never really think about me. They worship me by repeating rules made up by humans. So once again I will do things that shock and amaze them, and I will destroy the wisdom of those who claim to know and understand." (Is 29:13-14 CEV)

    The Lord said, "These people claim to worship me, but their words are meaningless, and their hearts are somewhere else. Their religion is nothing but human rules and traditions, which they have simply memorized. So I will startle them with one unexpected blow after another. Those who are wise will turn out to be fools, and all their cleverness will be useless." (Is 29:13-14 GNB)

    I make fools of fortunetellers and frustrate the predictions of astrologers. The words of the wise I refute and show that their wisdom is foolishness. (Is 44:25 GNB)

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