Is Creationist Science Worth Believing?

[bluedes]

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hahahaha.
not even an iota of common sense.

p.s talking about reproduction, for all our sakes, for humanity's sake, dont reproduce.

"Ignavum, fucos, pecus a praesepibus arcent. Georgics, IV 168."

hahay... undang na lng ta ani oi..
wa namay sense gud..

imbis productive intellectual discussions, you are so bent on trying to put me down..

so, undang na lng oi..

[The_Child]

hahay... undang na lng ta ani oi..
wa namay sense gud..

imbis productive intellectual discussions, you are so bent on trying to put me down..

so, undang na lng oi..

ako pa moy walay sense, my god, you really have to practice reading and comprehension skills.
either that or youve got some serious issues, seek help immediately.

cheers!

[handsoff241]

let me ask this question then.with that being *unnatural* so it therefore means it is an act of God? this was our issue in the our first place.when you say this kind of *unnatural*, does it necessarily mean it is not good?

If you are a Catholic, you can say cloning is acting like God. But to be fair (I also agree on this), cloning is acting like nature doing what only nature can do WITHOUT side effects, remember only nature shows almost 100% efficiency in processes, human's can barely accomplish 5% of efficiency. It is not actually bad, the idea itself, but the process and the outcome are quite destructive.

I do not base my ideas on movies.. I base my ideas on sound scientific findings and discoveries.. I am not a fan of hollywood's portrayal of these things.. it is entertaining at most but hardly close to our current reality.

What you have just stated, a clone totally different from someone(it's source) is a total scifi. It will be a great debate, like the other thread, Do Clone Have Souls?

no matter how much of the ethics that are being debated around these issues, scientists in these areas are silently going on with their research.. because a true scientist is in the pursuit of knowledge.. he would rather not let any issues on ethics slow his study down.. those ethics are better left with people specializing in those areas.

I hope you know, that there are knowledge better left unknown.

[handsoff241]

@child daog na mo?

[bluedes]

If you are a Catholic, you can say cloning is acting like God. But to be fair (I also agree on this), cloning is acting like nature doing what only nature can do WITHOUT side effects, remember only nature shows almost 100% efficiency in processes, human's can barely accomplish 5% of efficiency. It is not actually bad, the idea itself, but the process and the outcome are quite destructive.

precisely why there are state laws prohibiting cloning.. personally, these laws are there to prevent abuse.. but if you ask me, if only all men were angels, we would not need these laws..

What you have just stated, a clone totally different from someone(it's source) is a total scifi. It will be a great debate, like the other thread, Do Clone Have Souls?

please don't get me wrong. a clone is different from the original in the sense that its brain will register a different set of experiences than the original. the human personality is largely defined by the experiences of the individual.. the only way a clone will be totally the same with the original is when they experience everything about them in the same manner.. which is very very unlikely..

take a look at identical twins.. they are in essence almost clones as they have nearly identical DNA.. but in reality, they develop quite different personalities because the *experiences* these two undergo are totally different also..

however, i cannot talk of actual human clones, because i do not know of any actual human clones to have a basis of comparison on.. but if you talk of sheep like dolly, i doubt he was pretty much the same with his mother.. the brain registers a different set of experiences.....

as for clones having souls.. egad! i am not even gonna start that.. im not in the position to debate who has souls or not.. i merely talk of simple brain activity, neurons recording memories in the brain.. that we can realistically talk of..

I hope you know, that there are knowledge better left unknown.

oh, dont worry, i assure you, i do not talk of knowledge that i know barely little of..
when i dont know, i simply respond i dont know.. u see, its easier to admit i dont know when i really dont know at all.. than risk appearing foolish pretending to know..

[handsoff241]

however, i cannot talk of actual human clones, because i do not know of any actual human clones to have a basis of comparison on

You just presented yourself a dead-end. Just wait till it opens up.

[bluedes]

You just presented yourself a dead-end. Just wait till it opens up.

and your point is? what kind of dead-end are you talking about?

so, mu-atras na lng ko ani and back track? mu-u-turn?

i suppose you still don't get the gist of the discussion on how clones are different.. oh well.. let's just end it here then..

[handsoff241]

i suppose you still don't get the gist of the discussion on how clones are different

Look who is talking.

and your point is? what kind of dead-end are you talking about?
so, mu-atras na lng ko ani and back track? mu-u-turn?

This was the dead end I was talking about.
You said...

and you see, a clone may be a physical copy, but the inherent consciousness of a clone is totally different from the original.. the set of experiences a clone undergoes is totally unique.. which still makes a clone *special* or *unique*.. if you view a clone as nothing but a mere low-life trying-hard second-rate pussy-cat

then went against your own post...

however, i cannot talk of actual human clones, because i do not know of any actual human clones to have a basis of comparison on.. but if you talk of sheep like dolly, i doubt he was pretty much the same with his mother.. the brain registers a different set of experiences.

so I said...

You just presented yourself a dead-end. Just wait till it opens up.

You'd better remember your posts well.

[bluedes]

^ huh? where did i go against myself again?

what kind of rules on discussion do you follow here anyway?

[Hellblazer 2.1]

if clones could be "created," i want a maria ozawa clone. hehehe.