Marcos Wealth: Stolen money stolen again?

[LytSlpr]

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@LytSlpr

So basta call centers, we should complain and try to do something about it. Pero about the disappearance of billions of pesos from the country's treasury... don't fret?

So we hold call centers to a higher standard than the government? If thats how everyone here in the Philippines thinks... I'm not surprised we're going to the dogs.

you totally missed my point! i did not say that. by principle we should fight for all injustices but personally i choose to fight didto ra sa kaya nako or something i could do something about. it is my personal choice. but if you are those kind people or group who can fight the injustices sa atong government, go ahead. get the picture now?

[LytSlpr]

so "selective idealism" does not apply if we are going to use logic.

no matter what logic you are using, coz logic does not make a right to wrong and a wrong to right.

did i say that? you assumed! clearly the logic that i was talking about does not apply to your perception.

[bfg9000]

@LytSlpr

Then you shouldn't say "Don't fret", then complain when people tell you "Don't Fret" when it comes to your call center complaints.

And you CAN always do something about government, we're in a democracy so you can vote and we do have free speech so you can voice out your opinions (like you do here in istorya.net).

[LytSlpr]

@LytSlpr

Then you shouldn't say "Don't fret", then complain when people tell you "Don't Fret" when it comes to your call center complaints.

HAHAHA!!! if they said that, then fine with me. it is their personal choice. if they interacted in that thread because they were affected or had the same cause or the "same level" of cause then so much the better. it's as simple as that really! and that thread was not about complaining or convincing anybody to join any cause. if you followed the threas closely it was just merely "to let everyone know" that's all. if it was really a cause theyn you won't be reading it in this forum but reading it in the papers or watching it on the news where it was conducted in the prper forum, court or venue.

[FK]

but personally i choose to fight didto ra sa kaya nako or something i could do something about. Â*it is my personal choice. but Â*if you are those kind people or group who can fight the injustices sa atong government, go ahead. Â*get the picture now?

just got me wondering... i believe you were involve/participated one way or another when pinoys ousted ERAP. so i believe you are in a position who can certainly help fight injustices in our government. Â*So in your own personal way you can't fight injustice you would just say... don't fret or don't be surprise it's nothing new. huh? wow... so much for a person who think that injustices should be fought.

did i say that? you assumed! clearly the logic that i was talking about does not apply to your perception.

so you were not using logic to select when you should be idealistic... so what's logic got to do with being idealistic?

[bfg9000]

HAHAHA!!! if they said that, then fine with me. it is their personal choice. if they interacted in that thread because they were affected or had the same cause or the "same level" of cause then so much the better. it's as simple as that really! and that thread was not about complaining or convincing anybody to join any cause.

In that case then, it should also be fine by you when people choose NOT to ignore the case of the missing billions and instead call GMA to task for having the money disappear without a clear explanation of where it went, and worse, with allegations that it was spent on cheating. Right?

[LytSlpr]

that is not okay sir! but she is better na lang. get my point? if nobody will run after her for this, who do you suggest will run after her? you? as i've said, i chose to fight battles na kaya nako.

[FK]

that is not okay sir! but she is better na lang. get my point? if nobody will run after her for this, who do you suggest will run after her? you? as i've said, i chose to fight battles na kaya nako.

sa pag-ingon pa nimo bai... we are not totally convincing one another here, and expressing our point of view, so if you say "DON'T FRET", you are implying that we, who are against this corruption should just accept it because it's the way of life, and forget about it and stop expressing our views.

[bfg9000]

that is not okay sir! but she is better na lang. get my point? if nobody will run after her for this, who do you suggest will run after her? you? as i've said, i chose to fight battles na kaya nako.

Ah... choose the "lesser evil". But that just sends the message to our youth that you can lie, cheat, and steal, and get away with it.

If everyone just chose to "fight battles na kaya nako" then we'll always be taken advantage of. If we all individually just chose to stay lethargic then we'll never get anywhere. But if all, or at least most of us, learned to not suffer in silence, then we'll get results. Exact same reason why unions are formed...

[LytSlpr]

that is not okay sir! but she is better na lang. get my point? if nobody will run after her for this, who do you suggest will run after her? you? as i've said, i chose to fight battles na kaya nako.

Ah... choose the "lesser evil". But that just sends the message to our youth that you can lie, cheat, and steal, and get away with it.

If everyone just chose to "fight battles na kaya nako" then we'll always be taken advantage of. If we all individually just chose to stay lethargic then we'll never get anywhere. But if all, or at least most of us, learned to not suffer in silence, then we'll get results. Exact same reason why unions are formed...

i understand but it all still boils down to personal choice. i don't want to be a hero to EVERYBODY just because of principle. i only want to make a difference in my circle, the people around me and a little further. that's all and that's my personal choice!

if ever i want to have a union so be it but i don't want to join the perrenial rallyists or worst the NPA. i have yet to fathom and accept the principles of THOSE people.

kay kung magpadala gyud ta sa atong tama, sa kahimtang sa atong nasud ug sa kabulok sa atong gobyerno, angay man gyud ta mo apil ug NPA tanan ba kung maayo gyud ni ilang programa pero nganong wa man or di man gyud ni mahitabo? ang tubag ani, mao pu'y tubag nako.