WLC Challenge To all the religious leaders, theologians, and Bible students

[Soul Doctor]

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^Its a plain stupidity for Him to exist just as a challenge. He was here to save us from the moment He was resurrected until now. The part where He violated the Sabbath Day and thrashed the merchant stalls inside the temple were just made to remind the Jews that there are more important laws to implement, laws which will help them enter the kingdom of God rather than those laws which are very superficial in nature.
He will never do those things out of severe emotions, but rather it was a will of God that He was following.

Well if thats what you think.
I respect your views on that.

By the way, was His "saving the world from sin" effective?
Are we all saved from sin now, after 2000 years?
Or we are just the same sinners 2000 years ago?

[handsoff241]

It's not my view it is as it was told.

We are all saved from sin, His saving power is being channeled through the Blessed Sacraments.

[Soul Doctor]

It's not my view it is as it was told.

We are all saved from sin, His saving power is being channeled through the Blessed Sacraments.

So are we still the same sinners 2000 years ago?

I would expect from the "Son of God" that after he gave his life in the cross
-- the world will be saved from sin.

Its 2000 years from there but I can see it is even getting worse from what I've seen.
So I can say that "saving the world from sin" stunt
was not that effective in really saving man from sin, was it?.

[newtonscousin]

Actually in the Bible, Jesus violated the Sabbath Day rule.
This is one of the grounds why the pharisees charged him.
So if the "son of God" cannot follow his fathers "law of Sabbath"-
--then why the hell should we?

pwede ko mangayo ug verse nga gi violate ni Jesus ang Sabbath? and also what is your religion bro?

Salamat.

[Soul Doctor]

pwede ko mangayo ug verse nga gi violate ni Jesus ang Sabbath? and also what is your religion bro?

Salamat.

no bible verse
no religion bro.

[handsoff241]

So are we still the same sinners 2000 years ago?

No we are not the same sinners.

I would expect from the "Son of God" that after he gave his life in the cross
-- the world will be saved from sin.

It was saved and is saved until now, as I mentioned, through the Blessed Sacraments.

Its 2000 years from there but I can see it is even getting worse from what I've seen.
So I can say that "saving the world from sin" stunt
was not that effective in really saving man from sin, was it?.

As what you have said from various threads, man as a being evolves, he finds new ways to commit sin (internet pornography, drugs etc) but God is till here to help us, if He is not around this world will be far more chaotic than what you are seeing now.
And also, if you have deep understanding of things... you should take time examining not just a small amount of information from this world, so you will know more than what you know.

[handsoff241]

pwede ko mangayo ug verse nga gi violate ni Jesus ang Sabbath? and also what is your religion bro?

Salamat.

Please refrain from asking bible verses alone. It will not work here, not all people are not fundamentalist.
Don;t expect a dog poo from a fish.

[Soul Doctor]

No we are not the same sinners.


It was saved and is saved until now, as I mentioned, through the Blessed Sacraments.


As what you have said from various threads, man as a being evolves, he finds new ways to commit sin (internet pornography, drugs etc) but God is till here to help us, if He is not around this world will be far more chaotic than what you are seeing now.
And also, if you have deep understanding of things... you should take time examining not just a small amount of information from this world, so you will know more than what you know.

Did God know, that people will evolve into other form of sinners?
Or does He have to send another Son to save us again from our evolved sins.

[handsoff241]

I have no rights to say that He knows or not, but I do think He knows. He already know everyone even before they were born, how much more man as a specie evolving.
His powers was enough and will always be enough to save us. No more sending another son (or the same one), Jesus will come back as a victor.

[Soul Doctor]

I have no rights to say that He knows or not, but I do think He knows. He already know everyone even before they were born, how much more man as a specie evolving.
His powers was enough and will always be enough to save us. No more sending another son (or the same one), Jesus will come back as a victor.

Owkie!

No argument intended.

I was just asking my questions out loud.

And sharing my questions about this "Jesus saves the world from sin" concept.