Same-s*x relationships

[laagan_si_organizer]

oh...an outline?

yep! and this is the 1st post:

Hey guys........ i wanna know your opinion about SAME *** RELATIONSHIP...... because you know na that "Different Folks have Different Strokes.......... pls share with me guys your opinion about it.... coz you know na i'm a gay ang i really have a relationship witha boy....... so, im kinda asking your opinion about it..... ok...... THANKS A LOT

though this one is not my post, i think the poster used "ni"

since the topic is all about same-s e x relationships, logically, the word "ni" being used in the statement simple refers to the topic (which is, again, same s e x relationships). just so because the poster didn't "DROP" the exact words, doesn't necessarily imply that he's NOT pertaining to it. based on his post, he's relating to the "topic"...because if he's not, then i may conclude he's on the wrong thread.

reading between the lines, it would not be attributable if homosexuality wasn't compared to abortion...premarital ***, adultery...right? and who compared it? esep-esep po...

I DID. and for what reasons? several, but i want to point the most important one. homosexuality wouldn't be attributed to things mentioned above if not for people convicting that homosexuality is "a crime"...as if it's a deadly sin. people have been treating homosexuality as a deadly virus... and it's not easy dealing with that. but when they think of it as a DEADLY SIN, they definitely forgot the OTHER DEADLY SINS as well. what i'm trying to imply is the fact that a lot of people have been COMING CLEAN, when in fact, they, themselves, know that they have also committed things that are worse than homosexuality.

though you can see the underlying thoughts, i think its not good to be subjective,
you see, there are alot of sinful acts...doing it because others did it will not make it justifiable.

there! you've just said it. "a lot of sinful acts"...but why do people keep on stressing homosexuality, even highlightening, making it look like homosexuality is the NUMBER ONE sin? have you ever thought of this?

again, we can ask ourselves;

how can we say it is discriminating?
when can we say it is discriminating?

also can somebody define what discrimination is?

is it discrimination, if it doesn't conform to what you want?

discrimination - 1 a: the act of discriminating b: the process by which two stimuli differing in some aspect are responded to differently2: the quality or power of finely distinguishing3 a: the act, practice, or an instance of discriminating categorically rather than individually b: prejudiced or prejudicial outlook, action, or treatment <racial discrimination>
source: Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online

discrimination - Discrimination toward or against a person or group is the treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit. It can be behavior promoting a certain group (e.g. affirmative action), or it can be negative behavior directed against a certain group (e.g. redlining).
source: Wikipedia

discrimination - 1. an act or instance of discriminating. 2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination. 3. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment: She chose the colors with great discrimination. 4. Archaic. something that serves to differentiate.
source: www.dictionary.com

types of discrimination: (direct discrimination vs. subtle discrimination)

Discrimination involves treating an individual differently because of their possession of an attribute unrelated to the situation, in contrast to the treatment received by another individual in the same circumstances.
Subtle discrimination involves setting a condition or requirement which a smaller proportion of those with the attribute are able to comply with, without reasonable justification.

Examples of DISCRIMINATION:

Sexual discrimination can arise in different contexts. For instance an employee may be discriminated against by being asked discriminatory questions during a job interview, or because an employer did not hire, promote or wrongfully terminated an employee based on his or her gender, or employers pay unequally based on gender.


In an educational setting there could be claims that a student was excluded from an educational institution, program, opportunity, loan, student group, or scholarship due to his or her gender. In the housing setting there could be claims that a person was refused negotiations on seeking a house, contracting/leasing a house or getting a loan based on his or her gender. Another setting where there have been claims of gender discrimination is banking; for example if one is refused credit or is offered unequal loan terms based on one’s gender.


Another setting where there is usually gender discrimination is when one is refused to extend his or her credit, refused approval of credit/loan process, and if there is a burden of unequal loan terms based on one’s gender.


Socially, sexual differences have been used to justify different roles for men and women, in some cases giving rise to claims of primary and secondary roles.


While there are alleged non-physical differences between men and women, major reviews of the academic literature on gender difference find only a tiny minority of characteristics where there are consistent psychological differences between men and women, and these relate directly to experiences grounded in biological difference.


Unfair discrimination usually follows the gender stereotyping held by a society.


source: www.wikipedia.org



NEED I SAY MORE?

to answer your question...Discrimination comes in many forms, be it direct or subtle. Sometimes, when a person doesn't conform you, it may be another form of discrimination, depending on how it was delivered. Needless to say, one's act shouldn't be offensive to someone else. All of us want to be respected for who we are, right? Is it too much to ask for that seven-letter word?

[laagan_si_organizer]

sa ako lang. ang babaye para sa laki.
ang laki para sa babaye.

bisan sa mga mananap.
laki sa babaye, babaye sa laki.

Law of Nature ba.

And I don't find issues in same s3ks relationships.
For others, it's more on moral issue na.

Pero para nako. OK ra ng same s3ks relationships basta peace lang.

Minaw lang ta ninyo ug "Imagine" ha

FYI, homosexuality also happens with other animals. i guess, you didn't see that one episode from the National Geographic Channel.

[gkoopir]

sa ako lang. ang babaye para sa laki.
ang laki para sa babaye.

bisan sa mga mananap.
laki sa babaye, babaye sa laki.

Law of Nature ba.

And I don't find issues in same s3ks relationships.
For others, it's more on moral issue na.

Pero para nako. OK ra ng same s3ks relationships basta peace lang.

Minaw lang ta ninyo ug "Imagine" ha

Kanti mani Bro...

Basted ang title. mao ni ang churos..

Ang mga taw sa kalibutan
gi bahig ka duha
kung naay laki ug babaye
ug wa nay lain pa
dakong sayop ang pagtirada
kung kamo pareho ra
kana maoy estorya
kung dakong bakak ang gugma
unsa may hinungdan
nga dili nimo masabtan,sabta nalang

Kay bisag unsaon mo pagpagwapo
dili gyud sakto sa parihas nimo
kay ang babaye para lang sa laki
maoy timan-e aron mag silbe
Dunay laki og babae, wa nay lain pa....

^_^

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NEED I SAY MORE?

to answer your question...Discrimination comes in many forms, be it direct or subtle. Sometimes, when a person doesn't conform you, it may be another form of discrimination,

this is clearly subjective...I guess if you are deprived of you basic rights...that would be discrimination

depending on how it was delivered. Needless to say, one's act shouldn't be offensive to someone else. All of us want to be respected for who we are, right? Is it too much to ask for that seven-letter word?

anyone can have it...deserved it...


homosexuality is not a crime..posted this one, somewhere:

a person can be gay...and at the same time clean...

St Francis of Assisi was gay...but he lived a holy life...

St Joan of Arc, has her masculinity, but she lived a holy life....

no *** with the same one...

I say if you are a Gay or Lesbo...you should be happy and proud!

you have a very big challenge...which is not to have *** with the same one...

and it is very sweet and pleasing to God's eyes...to conquer this!

and avoid such animal pleasure! thereby adhering to be God's child not just a mere earthling.

[laagan_si_organizer]

this is clearly subjective...I guess if you are deprived of you basic rights...that would be discrimination

that's only ONE OF THE MANY forms of discrimination. again, discrimination comes in many forms, if you may not know it...not only because he's deprived of his basic rights.

anyone can have it...deserved it...

homosexuality is not a crime..posted this one, somewhere:

a person can be gay...and at the same time clean...

St Francis of Assisi was gay...but he lived a holy life...

St Joan of Arc, has her masculinity, but she lived a holy life....

no *** with the same one...

I say if you are a Gay or Lesbo...you should be happy and proud!

you have a very big challenge...which is not to have *** with the same one...

and it is very sweet and pleasing to God's eyes...to conquer this!

and avoid such animal pleasure! thereby adhering to be God's child not just a mere earthling.

this thing here is a proof of discrimination. why? let me quote wikipedia with its own description of discrimination...

Discrimination toward or against a person or group is the treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit. It can be behavior promoting a certain group (e.g. affirmative action), or it can be negative behavior directed against a certain group (e.g. redlining).

just because you've seen/heard/known some male prospects having s e x with another specie of the same gender doesn't necessarily imply that everyone (and i say everyone) from the homosexual group is involved primarily on "love-making". being homosexual is not just about the physical activities the partners are involve with. it is also about their emotional, mental, and spiritual needs. some people would want to/prefer to have a partner that they could relate to, rather than making love.

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that's only ONE OF THE MANY forms of discrimination. again, discrimination comes in many forms, if you may not know it...not only because he's deprived of his basic rights.

what more? you may point some...

just because you've seen/heard/known some male prospects having s e x with another specie of the same gender doesn't necessarily imply that everyone (and i say everyone) from the homosexual group is involved primarily on "love-making". being homosexual is not just about the physical activities the partners are involve with. it is also about their emotional, mental, and spiritual needs. some people would want to/prefer to have a partner that they could relate to, rather than making love.

you're jumping to conclusion...

my post is for those who did it...in between lines there is this "optionality"
not the whole homosexual federation...

that is why my post contains:

homosexuality is not a crime..
a person can be gay...and at the same time clean...
blah...blah...blah...

where in my post, that discrimination is fairly evident?

but let me guess, my post doesn't conform to your want...
and for sure...a subjective feeling of discrimination will came in...

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however...
are you sure that if you're into that kind of relationship...it doesn't really mean there is something
wrong goin on?

speaking of cleanliness means having no sexual contact with
the partner, since you still have to claim the license to do it...LOL!

intimacy will always came in every relationship...not to be subjective, but this is the reality...

intimacy within the same ***...is a sin...at least if you believe in God...
if you don't...well at least you may follow the state's law (for now)

lucky that though it is not allowed, none was sent behind the bars for doing it...

[laagan_si_organizer]

you're being inconsistent, i should say! i could still remember what your past posts implied. let me quote that for you to remember:

opppsss...i always share to my operators that a sin/mistake can not be justifiable
with other's mistake...it doesn't mean its ok to do mistakes because others did it too...

looking at the post and trying to understand it, the poster clearly states (reading between lines), that being homosexual (which is the topic for this thread) is a
mistake. now, you're saying..

homosexuality is not a crime..
a person can be gay...and at the same time clean...

where's the consistency? also, you're NOT CLEARLY getting what i was trying to say about "CLEANLINESS". by that, i was trying to say that PEOPLE ARE COMING CLEAN AS IF THEY HAVE NOT COMMITTED ANY SIN AT ALL! i hope you are getting the picture now.

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you're being inconsistent, i should say! i could still remember what your past posts implied. let me quote that for you to remember:



looking at the post and trying to understand it, the poster clearly states (reading between lines), that being homosexual (which is the topic for this thread) is a
mistake. now, you're saying..



where's the consistency? also, you're NOT CLEARLY getting what i was trying to say about "CLEANLINESS". by that, i was trying to say that PEOPLE ARE COMING CLEAN AS IF THEY HAVE NOT COMMITTED ANY SIN AT ALL! i hope you are getting the picture now.

oh we're not talking at all...as it seems...

Ok. to make you understand...

being gay is fine....its not a crime

same *** relationship(with or without sexual intercourse) is not fine....
though it is still not convicted as a crime in the society...

but in God's eyes..its a mortal sin...lust?!
who are we to say that? well we can cite sodom and gomorahh
as an example...

now, can we spot the difference?

[laagan_si_organizer]

oh we're not talking at all...as it seems...

Ok. to make you understand...

being gay is fine....its not a crime

same *** relationship is not fine....though it is still not
convicted as a crime in the society...

but in God's eyes..its a mortal sin...lust?!

now, was the difference spotted?

oh? lust? should it be considered "lust" when you're "emotionally attached" to someone of the same gender? now, how could it be considered lust? ergo, you're the one who's jumping to conclusions.

how could it be fine being gay when same s e x relationship is not? quite ironic.

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disagree jud ko ani na relationship!