How do we really know God exists... The Bible Answers

[schmuck]

He is not sending you to hell, be reasonable please, why do you think He suffered FOR US in the first place?
it is you and your actions that sends you to hell, remember you have your free will.

*only applicable to those who insist in the 'believe or go to hell' doctrine.

Also, I didn't ask him to suffer for me. Can you(or anyone) explain again how exactly does his sacrifice save us? I mean how does that work? An innocent man dies on the cross, then poof your sins are forgiven. ?_?

[joshua259]

He is not sending you to hell, be reasonable please, why do you think He suffered FOR US in the first place?
it is you and your actions that sends you to hell, remember you have your free will.

OT:

and freewilly we shall recieve...

B.I.B.L.E. = Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth...

[amingb]

Rev 20:12

And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.

Now that makes God a fair judge.


Luke 12.47-48 makes it clear that God's judgment shall give due consideration to the amount of knowledge that the unbeliever had concerning God's will.

"For example, an unbeliever who has heard and rejected the Gospel of Jesus Christ will be judged more severely than one who has not been given the Gospel "

Ayaw ingna nga nga unbelievers of today is not inform about the Good News.

[schmuck]

"For example, an unbeliever who has heard and rejected the Gospel of Jesus Christ will be judged more severely than one who has not been given the Gospel "

Ayaw ingna nga nga unbelievers of today is not inform about the Good News.

interesting, how about the Taliban women who will never get the chance to know the "good news"?

[handsoff241]

Not just the atheist but to all unbelievers will go to HELL .... yes we have free will , its between Heaven and Hell.

tol, that is exactly one of the reasons why people like us (believers) are tagged as delusional...
all we have is faith, and yet here you are telling non believers that they have no choice but hell if they will not change..

what a stupid wrong approach.

*only applicable to those who insist in the 'believe or go to hell' doctrine.

Also, I didn't ask him to suffer for me. Can you(or anyone) explain again how exactly does his sacrifice save us? I mean how does that work? An innocent man dies on the cross, then poof your sins are forgiven. ?_?

ugh! schmuck grabeh ka way pagtou.. ngilngiga nimo oi mura man kag humba nga bahaw, lami kan-on pero pwerting ngilngiga.

i know you know how to find the answers, as they say if fgi! FGI! but for the sake of this conversation...

first,(1.) you are right it technically it does apply to those who believe. BUT! the fact is, weather you belive or not, like it or not.. everyone is part of His plan of redemption.
Now..(2.) you did not ask Him, well of couse your ancestors were sperm during those times when He was crucified, unsa pa kaha ka?
How does it work; first consider this (1.), now God became a man because He wanted man to take part in His salvation plan,so He suffered and died, shows how we mankind died in Sin, because He was a man He shared in our death in the sins and because He is God, when He was ressurected, He also ressurected everyone who is dead in sin and defeated sin forever. how come it became forever? because He is alive until now, that saving power continues to work on earth through the Holy Spirit.

OT:

and freewilly we shall recieve...

B.I.B.L.E. = Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth...

okey??

[handsoff241]

Rev 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.
Now that makes God a fair judge.
Luke 12.47-48 makes it clear that God's judgment shall give due consideration to the amount of knowledge that the unbeliever had concerning God's will.
"For example, an unbeliever who has heard and rejected the Gospel of Jesus Christ will be judged more severely than one who has not been given the Gospel "
Ayaw ingna nga nga unbelievers of today is not inform about the Good News.

no way.. i can't believe you are reading the bible and forgot about "Divine Mercy"... bisan nalukop na sila ug panaway ug deny, God will judge them as how they lived their life on earth.

ayaw tawn sukda ang Ginoo.

[regnauld]

no way.. i can't believe you are reading the bible and forgot about "Divine Mercy"... bisan nalukop na sila ug panaway ug deny, God will judge them as how they lived their life on earth.

ayaw tawn sukda ang Ginoo.

Yes bro you are right! Even Hitler can go or went to heaven!

[schmuck]

tol, that is exactly one of the reasons why people like us (believers) are tagged as delusional...
all we have is faith, and yet here you are telling non believers that they have no choice but hell if they will not change..

what a stupid wrong approach.

apir!

first,(1.) you are right it technically it does apply to those who believe. BUT! the fact is, weather you belive or not, like it or not.. everyone is part of His plan of redemption.
Now..(2.) you did not ask Him, well of couse your ancestors were sperm during those times when He was crucified, unsa pa kaha ka?
How does it work; first consider this (1.), now God became a man because He wanted man to take part in His salvation plan,so He suffered and died, shows how we mankind died in Sin, because He was a man He shared in our death in the sins and because He is God, when He was ressurected, He also ressurected everyone who is dead in sin and defeated sin forever. how come it became forever? because He is alive until now, that saving power continues to work on earth through the Holy Spirit.

still raises more questions. pero ma OT. sugdan lang nya nako inig naka-uli na ko.
I didn't want him to die for me. But he still did. Where is my free will? I want my refund!

[SioDenz]

Yes bro you are right! Even Hitler can go or went to heaven!

And even Pope John Paul can go or went to Hell... posible nah...

[handsoff241]

still raises more questions. pero ma OT. sugdan lang nya nako inig naka-uli na ko.
I didn't want him to die for me. But he still did. Where is my free will? I want my refund!

here is what i said, and i quote myself..

Now..(2.) you did not ask Him, well of couse your ancestors were sperm during those times when He was crucified, unsa pa kaha ka?

HE LOVES US, that is why wala na siya nag huwat nga mangayo pa ta ug tabang...
and also, a father/mother knows what is best for his children. diba?