MERGED: All About RP-US Mutual Defense Treaty/ VFA-MLSA and Related Issues

[diehard96]

this is great. this is an opportunity for us to be trained by the most professional military agency in the world. for those who despise the American army presence in the Philippines i suggest you sit back and relax cause this maybe our only hope on receiving sophisticated weapons and training.

no question bai nga military superpower ang US, pero it's not necessarily the most professional, much less the best. pound-for-pound Israel has a stronger defense force.

pasagdi na lang mga anti-american bai kay sukad pa na sila saunang nag dumot sa mga kano pero wa gyud na silay igong nahimo. ila rang dughan mag sakit

[grovestreet]

If you're awed by the fact that this "secret project" took a "Manhattan Project-like proportions", then it's only because of the secrecy involved. Compare the Manhattan Project with the Apollo Program.

Manhattan Project - $2 Billion in 4 years, employing about 150,000 people

Apollo Program - $22.7 Billion in 13 years, employing about 500,000 people.

But yes, if billions were spent, and 150,000 people were involved, it's not entirely a bad idea to start imagining of super high tech "Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter" or Crysis Body Armor stuff, being tested and used currently

-RODION

hehe how impractical humans are.

[rodsky]

hehe how impractical humans are.

If you're referring to the amount of money spent in the Apollo program, your simply lack the proper understanding as to why human beings need to explore space, thereby making it difficult for you to understand why we HAVE to spend billions or even trillions of money on space travel.

It's the appreciation of long term view of how humanity should flourish, rather than an earthbound, short term civilization outlook.

You're going to talk about poverty, world hunger, unequal rights, injustice...sure, sure...I'm not putting less weight on these issues, even though some may view that I am belittling the other, more "pressing issues" that humans are concerned with in this world today...

...but if YOU put less weight on the need to explore space, you're even more wrong than me.


"The Earth is the cradle of humanity, but mankind cannot stay in the cradle forever."
-Konstantin Eduardovich Tsiolkovsky

-RODION

[vern]

Paris Hilton's *** video was of better quality than that, not to mention the movements weren't consistent with someone running through grass and rough terrain. But if you guys want to continue to debate that topic because it sounds smart to, feel free. Without verifiable facts though, you guys just sound stupid.

EDIT: I don't know about what kinds of exercises Filipinos/Americans are currently doing, but i know for a FACT that when Abu Sayyaf took hostages, there were American boots on the ground. There goes that whole constitution thing.

[rodsky]

Without verifiable facts though, you guys just sound stupid.

Thanks for adding salt and spice to the brew.

-RODION

[vern]

Thanks for adding salt and spice to the brew.

-RODION

Feel free to write a book based on a single bad quality video. You've already written the first two chapters. When you finish, you can come back to the discussion and actually get on topic.

EDIT: People moan and complain about the US trying to be the world's "police". People seem to forget what happened the last two times the US became isolationist. They were called World War I and World War II. The rest of you mofos can't keep your guns in your pants, now you have to be forced to. Booo hooo.

[rodsky]

I apologize for going off-topic with the posts on the video. I just got carried away with Tarmac's own detailed analysis and speculations as well. Both he and I know each other well from another forum, and there, we usually have this tendency of spiraling off into other topics of interest while on a topic that's totally of a different issue. So yes, my mistake was mistaking this forum for that other forum, and again, I sincerely apologize to all those felt harrassed, maligned or affected in any other way by my slight off-tangent from the topic.

I am not an expert in video processing nor video compression techniques, and was just elaborating on Tarmac's post. Thus a scenario of me actually finishing such a book would be too far-fetched, and it will only lead to me NOT being able to get back into topic in this post due to the lack of expertise in trying to tie together a topic on the quality of videos and American Military Intervention in the Philippines, and how I feel about it.

You are right, I was wrong. I hope that makes you happy and just.

-RODION

[CaliforniaKid]

Hi friends,

Thank you for what has been a very interesting discussion. I'm happy to see that only a few wild conspiracy theorists really have a problem with the help America has offered in Mindanao. I loved the Philippines when I visited there, and it pleases me very much that America and the Philippines are such close allies. Thanks again,

-Chris

[grovestreet]

Feel free to write a book based on a single bad quality video. You've already written the first two chapters. When you finish, you can come back to the discussion and actually get on topic.

EDIT: People moan and complain about the US trying to be the world's "police". People seem to forget what happened the last two times the US became isolationist. They were called World War I and World War II. The rest of you mofos can't keep your guns in your pants, now you have to be forced to. Booo hooo.

Are we to assume that the US know the interests of others?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

LIke it really mattered if they are here or not .

When time comes needing assistance wether from disasters , miitary interest or just plain employment considering the recession is over or prior to the recession , we lean to UNCLE SAM . Kinsay makiglalis nako na the Philippines dont need the US ( if walay recession or heck even if there is ) ? That is just the bigger picture .

On a delimited issue , MILITARY PRESENCE is a good thing because it provides training and exchange of technologyto our local armed forces .