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[giddyboy]

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"NEGOTIATED SELLOUT"
Cuenco, Gullas, Salimbangon back House probe on Cebu City-FLI deal
Sun.Star Cebu, Apr 21, 2009

REPRESENTATIVE Pablo John Garcia (2nd District, Cebu Province) made good yesterday his vow to bring to Congress the controversy over Cebu City’s joint venture agreement with Filinvest Land Inc., calling it a “negotiated sellout.”

In his privilege speech at the House of Representatives, Garcia asked for the holding of inquiry that would:

• Set parameters within which local government units may enter into join venture agreements with the private sector;

• Provide for stricter compliance with the requirement for congressional approval in the sale of lands of the public domain; and,

• Provide stiffer penalties for violation of Section 3, Article XII of the 1987 Constitution, on the disposition of lands of the public domain.

...Speech

Garcia’s speech reiterated the criticisms he raised against the agreement in previous press conferences and press statements.

“Never have I seen a relationship where one party is as committed to bleeding the other dry, and the other doesn’t complain, but calls it unconditional love,” he said.

He said the contract signed by the parties in the transaction deviated from what was stated in the published invitation to bid not on a few points but “on all material points.”

Among these points were:

• Instead of an unincorporated joint venture over 50.6 hectares, the deal provides for an outright sale of 10.6 hectares to Filinvest, and only 40 hectares for the joint venture.

“Its purpose is clearly to evade the ‘sealed public bidding’ requirement under Section 197 of the Commission on Audit Rules and Regulations in regard to the sale of properties belonging to local governments,” Garcia noted.

• Instead of a ‘central business district type’ of development, the agreement shifted to the cheaper ‘integrated and well-planned clusters of medium-rise residential buildings and retirement and congregate care complexes.”

• In the published terms of the bidding, Cebu City claimed Filinvest had committed to pay P1.5 billion within the first three years.

In the agreement, Filinvest would pay the city not in three years but in seven annual installments or “double the term originally committed and published.

Other points

Aside from the deviation, Garcia also noted the following:

• Under Section 4 of the agreement, the city agreed that the master development plan, which Filinvest has not submitted, may be changed anytime by the firm without approval from the City, but upon mere 90 days notice.

• Under the agreement, Filinvest gets piecemeal titles to two hectares of property upon payment of each installment of P300 million or so.

“If Filinvest decides on the second year to stop paying further installments, no problem. It already holds the title to two hectares which it could then sell, if it has not sold it already,” Garcia said.

Moreover, Section 20 of the agreement provides that after payment of the fifth installment, Filinvest shall already have taken “delivery of the titles to entire object of the sale,” with P448.5 million still unpaid.

• Section 23 of the agreement provides that “expenses relative to the registration and transfer of ownership from local government to the vendee shall be borne by the vendee.”

For a P1.5 billion transaction, this could add up to P112 million, Garcia said.

• The City also agreed to secure and assign all foreshore rights to Filinvest without demanding a single centavo by way of compensation or even reimbursement expenses.

• Cebu City, under the agreement, contributes not only 40 hectares of supposed prime property for joint venture but will also spend for the road network, drainage system and provision for utilities like power and water.

Even with this, Garcia said, the city would only get “a measly 10 percent share of the proceeds.”

Also, if the share is sold, the city does not receive its entire value, as it committed to pay Filinvest 7 percent in “sales commissions and marketing expenses,” he added.

• “How can the City of Cebu sell reclaimed land without the authority of Congress?” Garcia said, citing a Supreme Court ruling requiring congressional authority for local government units to sell reclaimed lands of public domain.

full article:
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[giddyboy]

ako sad, pero silent na lang ta basin daginoton pa unya ta ni tita gwen pareho kay leo lastimosa. if patulan pa ni ang Istorya.Net sa mga Garcia it only goes to show how sour, bitter and pathetic all rolled into one, they are.

nagpama-ak na lang ko sa akong ngabil sa akong mga nahibaw-an first hand sa mga supplier, contractor, etc. and not only that, makita man sad sa project mismo from the carpet, to the ceiling to the paint, to the bathroom, to the sound system among others.

pero ingnon na pud ta ani nga transparent man ang project and open book man ang records, TOINK! mura man ta ug nursery ani.

palihug lang ipatang-tang na ang word na International sa CICC kay maka-uwaw kaayo.

in a related note, in illinois 3 governors have been imprisoned for corruption in the past 3 decades and soon, it will be four with Blagojevich. what a streak huh?!

focusing on CICC instead of the FLI deal is a squid tactic. besides, did anybody complain to what u said about what u supposedly knew sa mga CICC contractor, supplier, etc.?

if there is no complaint or investigation, there is no case. Period. and what u r saying will only belong to the category of a mere hearsay...that's a simple nursery 1 2 3...

and about Leo Lastimosa's libel case, the mere fact that he was finally convicted of libel (but amicably settled later on) proves that the charges filed are just, fair, and valid, and not unreasonable as u would like to portray...that's also simple nursery 1 2 3.

[LytSlpr]

does it mean kung no complaint or investigation everything is above board? oh come on?!

textbooking again? ROFL!

[giddyboy]

does it mean kung no complaint or investigation everything is above board? oh come on?!
textbooking again? ROFL!

Legally speaking, yes. Maliciously speaking, no.

A power point presentation explaining the details from the bidding process to the change in design and expenditures, coupled w/ tons of docs given to Lastimosa et al for further review isn't good enough for you?

if not, u better ask Lastimosa a copy of the docs and make ur own private investigation too...LOLs

Lest you know that Lastimosa finally got the voluminous documents he has been demanding. He said he will let experts examine these. Perhaps self-proclaimed anti-graft crusader Crisologo Saavedra can help Leo do that. AND PERHAPS YOU TOO.

But so far, nobody can tell yet categorically if the CICC project was overpriced unless experts say so after thoroughly examining the documents.

so if i were you, despite public perception that the project initiators demanded kickbacks or the so-called SOP from contractors, in the meantime, i suggest u give Gwen the benefit of the doubt regarding her statement that she did not make money out of the multi-million-peso project.

That to me is a more sensible thing to do...

coz if otherwise and u apply ur thinking to the real world, u might end up w/ the same fate as w/ Leo Lastimosa...LOLs

that's not textbooking (if ever there is such a term...LOLs). that's common sense.

yours is just a textbook case of a negative perception towards Gwen. and wa nakoy mahims ana...

[LytSlpr]

Legally speaking, yes. Maliciously speaking, no.

A power point presentation explaining the details from the bidding process to the change in design and expenditures, coupled w/ tons of docs given to Lastimosa et al for further review isn't good enough for you?

if not, u better ask Lastimosa a copy of the docs and make ur own private investigation too...LOLs

Lest you know that Lastimosa finally got the voluminous documents he has been demanding. He said he will let experts examine these. Perhaps self-proclaimed anti-graft crusader Crisologo Saavedra can help Leo do that. AND PERHAPS YOU TOO.

But so far, nobody can tell yet categorically if the CICC project was overpriced unless experts say so after thoroughly examining the documents.

so if i were you, despite public perception that the project initiators demanded kickbacks or the so-called SOP from contractors, in the meantime, i suggest u give Gwen the benefit of the doubt regarding her statement that she did not make money out of the multi-million-peso project.

That to me is a more sensible thing to do...

coz if otherwise and u apply ur thinking to the real world, u might end up w/ the same fate as w/ Leo Lastimosa...LOLs

that's not textbooking (if ever there is such a term...LOLs). that's common sense.

yours is just a textbook case of a negative perception towards Gwen. and wa nakoy mahims ana...

the word is not overpriced, the Cebuanos were shortchanged.

since you have the right numbers, some knowledge about the documents and the gwen powerpoint presentation. ang figures equitable ba sa project? let's not beat around the bush.

i admit wa ko ana nga facts, pero bisan kinsa pa lagi mo mata2x ug guesstimate di lagi mo sum up. kapisch?!

[giddyboy]

the word is not overpriced, the Cebuanos were shortchanged.

overpriced or shortchanged, still u r implying gitikasan...

since you have the right numbers, some knowledge about the documents and the gwen powerpoint presentation. ang figures equitable ba sa project? let's not beat around the bush.

i don't have the numbers. i was also not there during the presentation. but those who were there dili man sab mga bogo. that's why i am giving Gwen the benefit of the doubt just like them...

i admit wa ko ana nga facts, pero bisan kinsa pa lagi mo mata2x ug guesstimate di lagi mo sum up. kapisch?!

tua ra!!!wa man diay kay facts!!! toinks! LOLs

u better ask Leo a copy of the docs, study it and get back here w/ more sensible arguments...LOLs

and perhaps Leo can also give u pointers about libel cases...hikhikhik

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I have erred on the succession of Cebu governors during our lengthy discussion about the Lahug airport. I forgot about a Martinez. Now to correct:

Lito O served as governor from 1988 to 1992. During his term the CPVDC was formed.

From 1992 to 1995, i think it was a Martinez who was governor at that time.

Pablo Garcia then served as governor of Cebu from 1995 to 2004.

Gwendolyn Garcia succeeded him as governor in 2004. She was re-elected in 2007.

[LytSlpr]

overpriced or shortchanged, still u r implying gitikasan...



i don't have the numbers. i was also not there during the presentation. but those who were there dili man sab mga bogo. that's why i am giving Gwen the benefit of the doubt just like them...



tua ra!!!wa man diay kay facts!!! toinks! LOLs

u better ask Leo a copy of the docs, study it and get back here w/ more sensible arguments...LOLs

and perhaps Leo can also give u pointers about libel cases...hikhikhik

leo? ni kakak na man or di kaha, nabayran. he is not my barometer nor the documents or the reports from capitol. the total expense and the outcome of the project, as i have said, bisan mata-matahon pa klaro kaayong trampas.

do you want to make a poll out of this here and stake a wager? i can tell you right now nga pildi gyud ka boss kay kahibaw lagi ang mga tawo bisan unsa pa nga dokumento imong ipakita, newspaper quotes, powerpoint presentations, and EVEN court decisions, di lagi motuo ang mga tawo, you still don't get it, don't you? even the people of the cebu and mandaue chamber, don't believe it. pakpak kung mo-storya ang mga politiko kay mga negosyante gud, pero in between breaks, storya sa CR ug mga tapok2x sa private parties, you will be surprised what they REALLY think.

[giddyboy]

leo? ni kakak na man or di kaha, nabayran. he is not my barometer nor the documents or the reports from capitol. the total expense and the outcome of the project, as i have said, bisan mata-matahon pa klaro kaayong trampas.

na hala. mata mataha nlng kung mao nay imoha. hahaha
mao raman kha nay imong barometer...LOLs wa nakoy mahims ana...

wa naman gud kay laing good argument so iagi nlng nimo ug mata mata...LOLs

do you want to make a poll out of this here and stake a wager? i can tell you right now nga pildi gyud ka boss kay kahibaw lagi ang mga tawo bisan unsa pa nga dokumento imong ipakita, newspaper quotes, powerpoint presentations, and EVEN court decisions, di lagi motuo ang mga tawo, you still don't get it, don't you?

yeah i do get it. i do get it that bsan pa hukaran ug information, kung na sarado na gyud ang utok sa ilang pagtuo, wa nakay mahims ana...LOLs...mura ranag Katoliko ug Sabadista ga lalis sa freedom park. Di gyud mag abot...LOLs

kung tagaan pa tingali sa docs, dili nlng kno basahon ky mao lagi kno tikas gyud...hikhikhik nya kung lain ang paablihon sa docs, piyongon ang mata para lang dili mka kita ug mka basa ug dayon ingon,"Chure lagi gyud ko nga tikas. ayaw nlng ko pabasaha..."...hikhikhik

and btw, u can make a poll here but not a wager...

even the people of the cebu and mandaue chamber, don't believe it. pakpak kung mo-storya ang mga politiko kay mga negosyante gud, pero in between breaks, storya sa CR ug mga tapok2x sa private parties, you will be surprised what they REALLY think.

nya? tanan ba gyud sa cebu and mandaue chamber don't believe it? or some ra? pls be more specific so as not to mislead people here.

aw, pang C.R. raman pud diay na nga storyaha...unsa sa boys or girls nga C.R.? hikhik...sorry but i don't buy C.R. chismis...A C.R. OR TOILET IS WHERE U THROW UR BODILY GARBAGE OUT AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS NOT YOUR GARBAGE... LOLs

what they think or believe is not always factual. there's a big difference between what is perceived and the real.

[LytSlpr]

na hala. mata mataha nlng kung mao nay imoha. hahaha
mao raman kha nay imong barometer...LOLs wa nakoy mahims ana...

wa naman gud kay laing good argument so iagi nlng nimo ug mata mata...LOLs



yeah i do get it. i do get it that bsan pa hukaran ug information, kung na sarado na gyud ang utok sa ilang pagtuo, wa nakay mahims ana...LOLs...mura ranag Katoliko ug Sabadista ga lalis sa freedom park. Di gyud mag abot...LOLs

kung tagaan pa tingali sa docs, dili nlng kno basahon ky mao lagi kno tikas gyud...hikhikhik nya kung lain ang paablihon sa docs, piyongon ang mata para lang dili mka kita ug mka basa ug dayon ingon,"Chure lagi gyud ko nga tikas. ayaw nlng ko pabasaha..."...hikhikhik

and btw, u can make a poll here but not a wager...



nya? tanan ba gyud sa cebu and mandaue chamber don't believe it? or some ra? pls be more specific so as not to mislead people here.

aw, pang C.R. raman pud diay na nga storyaha...unsa sa boys or girls nga C.R.? hikhik...sorry but i don't buy C.R. chismis...A C.R. OR TOILET IS WHERE U THROW UR BODILY GARBAGE OUT AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS NOT YOUR GARBAGE... LOLs

what they think or believe is not always factual. there's a big difference between what is perceived and the real.

not chismis, opinion and belief. perception is stronger than pseudo-truths.

di na lang ta mo adto sa CR in between breaks sa mga functions sa mandaue and cebu chamber, so kining mga UNFOUNDED, EVIDENCE-LESS opinion, belief ug perception sa mga forumers diri sa thread ASIDE FROM me, mga baseless and chismis pud? it's the same scenario, sa CR lang to nahitabo ang sa chambers, hehehe!!!

if you are going to ask me, that's insulting the "intelligent opinion" of the forumers here.