How do we really know God exists... The Bible Answers

[munzter666]

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i loled the last line made me laugh, anyway...
im not taking it personally,i was wondering on what part of what i said made it sound personal.
there is no "flaw" and trying to site one is as good as trying to disprove Him.
well quit with the crap; let's spare ourselves with this loopy thing, as youve said, if im gonna refute with those supernatural creationisms... its a new start. geez will this ever end.
well im not gonna shove anymore into you what we believe your going to vomit it out anyway waste of time.
and not concerned about you showing reg his copy pasted posts i even loved that part.

the moment you reacted and been defensive about your god.
if you read my post it wasnt really about your god, it was more on how such supernatural creation trumped everything else, with reference to "god did it" in hindsight.

there is a difference between exchanging ideas and shoving ideas...you assume too much. i am merely questioning the basis of such claims.

[schmuck]

We can prove God's existence by using logic while not appealing to the authority and that's what probably the thread setter was asking for. I am not discrediting the authority of God's message in the bible because Im also believer of the bible. For me if you see to prove then you make an argument that include valid demonstration and inference. In this case faith is another issue. Here's my idea in which I believe it includes a logical reasoning from the aspects that we will see (material) to the abstract ideas that we cannot see (Spiritual).

What we observe in this universe is contingent (i.e. dependent, or conditional)A sequence of causally related contingent things cannot be infinite. The sequence of causally dependent contingent things must be finite

Every existing thing has an explanation of its existence, either in the necessity of its own nature or in an external cause. If the universe has an explanation of its existence, that explanation is God. The universe is an existing thing. Therefore the explanation of the universe is God.

Whatever begins to exist has a cause. The universe began to exist. Therefore, the universe has a cause. and the Uncaused cause is God.

When it comes to theist logic, I like to play a little game called, fictional substitution. If I can use your argument to prove that a certain fictional character exists, then that argument is flawed.

kung akong i-substitute ang God sa imong post og Agta, maka prove ko nga the uncaused cause is Agta :P

[zenun]

When it comes to theist logic, I like to play a little game called, fictional substitution. If I can use your argument to prove that a certain fictional character exists, then that argument is flawed.

kung akong i-substitute ang God sa imong post og Agta, maka prove ko nga the uncaused cause is Agta :P

Brother what is agta for you?

[schmuck]

Brother what is agta for you?

Agta is a fictional character

[zenun]

Agta is a fictional character. Do you think that your definition of an Agta is similar the argument that I presented?

[RemohDude]

simple logic!! if you believe that GOD made us (Human) the same with his Image & Likeness, thus GOD really exist..simple subject cannot predicate..hehe

[schmuck]

Agta is a fictional character. Do you think that your definition of an Agta is similar the argument that I presented?

Using your logic below.

What we observe in this universe is contingent (i.e. dependent, or conditional)A sequence of causally related contingent things cannot be infinite. The sequence of causally dependent contingent things must be finite

Every existing thing has an explanation of its existence, either in the necessity of its own nature or in an external cause. If the universe has an explanation of its existence, that explanation is an Agta. The universe is an existing thing. Therefore the explanation of the universe is an Agta.


Within the bounds of the argument you originally used, can you disprove mine?
Mao na akong point sir.

[zenun]

Using your logic below.

What we observe in this universe is contingent (i.e. dependent, or conditional)A sequence of causally related contingent things cannot be infinite. The sequence of causally dependent contingent things must be finite

Every existing thing has an explanation of its existence, either in the necessity of its own nature or in an external cause. If the universe has an explanation of its existence, that explanation is an Agta. The universe is an existing thing. Therefore the explanation of the universe is an Agta.


Within the bounds of the argument you originally used, can you disprove mine?
Mao na akong point sir.

Salamat sa imong Idea sir

If you viewed God the same with the arguments that I presented but you replaced it only as Agta then you simply agree to my definition as correct. However you replaced God as agta. Then there is no inconsistency here we both agree with the same idea.. Then it shows that God and agta for you is one. therefore you're no an athiest..

God is only a 3 letter word my friend what matter is the definition.

[schmuck]

Salamat sa imong Idea sir

If you viewed God the same with the arguments that I presented but you replaced it only as Agta then you simply agree to my definition as correct. However you replaced God as agta. Then there is no inconsistency here we both agree with the same idea.. Then it shows that God and agta for you is one. therefore you're no an athiest..

God is only a 3 letter word my friend what matter is the definition.

My purpose is to acid test your logic. I don't agree with your logic, I'm only playing with it.

If for you, its apparent that God and Agta(capital A) for me is one, here's the kicker:
I KNOW that the Agta is fictional, what does that make god?

btw, I'm a bordering Pastafarian and IPU'ist.

[zenun]

My purpose is to acid test your logic. I don't agree with your logic, I'm only playing with it.

If for you, its apparent that God and Agta(capital A) for me is one, here's the kicker:
I KNOW that the Agta is fictional, what does that make god?

I KNOW that the Agta is fictional, what does that make god? [/quote]

answer: You make it God because you replaced it as agta.