How do we really know God exists... The Bible Answers

[Ramini]

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its simple there is a supreme being we call god come to think of it kinahanlan naa gyud gi gikanan tanan diba so naa gyud that all

that's christian dogma talking...well i can't blame you for that..that's your opinion and yours to keep..

kinahanlan naa gyud gi gikanan tanan diba so naa gyud that all

is your god an excemption to this statement?...and can you answer why is your god and excemtion sa kani nga statement?..without basing any bible qoutes or whatever just your own understanding

[necrotic freak]

in your own understanding ramini, who created human beings? the big bang?

[regnauld]

Let us use SCIENCE. How come some of the greatest scientists of all times never rejected the concept of GOD? Simple. Everything operates in the INTELLIGENT DESIGN OF THE UNIVERSE and that has been proven by world's greatest mathematicians like Pythagoras. Remember the PHI or the Divine Proportion?
Now some people would say this is just a popular appeal to authority. Now tell me who are the the most authoritative source here if not the GENIUS like EINSTEIN and LEONARDO da VINCI? Tell me kuno. The atheists here are nothing compared to these great minds whose IQ surpasses the collective IQ of the atheists here in Istorya.net.

Everything has a perfect design. Do you think this is a random and chance universe? I'm done with that since my Atheistic days.

[SioDenz]

Let us use SCIENCE. How come some of the greatest scientists of all times never rejected the concept of GOD? Simple. Everything operates in the INTELLIGENT DESIGN OF THE UNIVERSE and that has been proven by world's greatest mathematicians like Pythagoras. Remember the PHI or the Divine Proportion?
Now some people would say this is just a popular appeal to authority. Now tell me who are the the most authoritative source here if not the GENIUS like EINSTEIN and LEONARDO da VINCI? Tell me kuno. The atheists here are nothing compared to these great minds whose IQ surpasses the collective IQ of the atheists here in Istorya.net.

Everything has a perfect design. Do you think this is a random and chance universe? I'm done with that since my Atheistic days.

Mao sad, naa sad ka point dha Mr Reg..

[Ramini]

in your own understanding ramini, who created human beings? the big bang?

hehehe!!! i don't know..ikaw kbaw ka?..i think we're searching our origins for different reasons..

@regnauld

your rationalizing noh? if complex kaayo ang usa ka organism does that automatically mean nga naai intelligent designer for that complex organism?..SOP ba jd diay na everytime mkasugat tag complex organism understood na nga naai jd designer ana?

[vergievergz]

naa man uban motuo ni God pro di mobasa ug Bible...hehe

[handsoff241]

hehehe!!! i don't know..ikaw kbaw ka?..i think we're searching our origins for different reasons..

@regnauld

your rationalizing noh? if complex kaayo ang usa ka organism does that automatically mean nga naai intelligent designer for that complex organism?..SOP ba jd diay na everytime mkasugat tag complex organism understood na nga naai jd designer ana?

well ask yourself is it an sop? or it does not need to be an sop because it is not a procedure but rather a fixed fact. ibutang ta lang dili Ginoo, let's say by chance,, then there you go chance made that complex being, which is us; with free will and with intellect. congrats to CHANCE for making a very wonderful creation.

[regnauld]

hehehe!!! i don't know..ikaw kbaw ka?..i think we're searching our origins for different reasons..

@regnauld

your rationalizing noh? if complex kaayo ang usa ka organism does that automatically mean nga naai intelligent designer for that complex organism?..SOP ba jd diay na everytime mkasugat tag complex organism understood na nga naai jd designer ana?

And where does complexity come from if not from simplicity? Is that what you call rationalizing?

Now how do you explain the concept of PHI or Divine Proportion which is consistent in the design of the universe? I know you cannot answer this because you are not a mathematician and even if you know mathematics, it won't do you any good if your math is only basic. Do you think chance created that? Now let us go to the science of statistical probability. How much is chance compared to the idea of INTELLIGENT DESIGN? Do you think chance is given enough priority when it is 1 to 10 billion or trillion perhaps probable? Try to reflect on this and you will get insane or mad for a day. Even Einstein and Leonardo da Vinci couldn't imagine such a meaningless and stupid universe at the same time. Again I'm done with my Atheistic days. I found out that there is a GREAT ARCHITECT behind all of this.

[nikxz unÖ]

Stating that life on earth is so complex that it must have an intelligent designer and been gaining strength masquerading as a science.
It's a belief structure Not science. We all know of no one who made a research and support it claims and it makes no testable predictions concerning ID's.

Apparent Design of the Universe. The story of sir Isaac newton, deeply religious man, Newton was struck by the order that he observed in the orbits of the planets, with all of them in the same plane. He could think of no reason for this, so he attributed it to God. Of course now, through science, we understand the gravitational dynamics in the formation of solar systems fairly well, and no longer need to invoke a god. Science is similarly showing how the rest of the universe works and eliminating the need for theistic explanations.

Ultimately, an intelligent designer of the universe or life explains nothing. It simply moves the lack of knowledge up one level, because this intelligent designer is left without an explanation, unless you posit either that it always existed or a more intelligent designer of the intelligent designer, ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

If it always existed, then what caused it to go an infinite amount of time and abruptly decide to create the universe? Thus, the intelligent designer answer is plagued with two insurmountable infinity problems.

The universe was not designed for life, in practically the entire universe conditions are extremely hostile to life. Saying that the universe is made just for us is like a frog looking at his pond and thinking that the whole world was made just for him.

[flying fish]

Stating that life on earth is so complex that it must have an intelligent designer and been gaining strength masquerading as a science.
It's a belief structure Not science. We all know of no one who made a research and support it claims and it makes no testable predictions concerning ID's.

Apparent Design of the Universe. The story of sir Isaac newton, deeply religious man, Newton was struck by the order that he observed in the orbits of the planets, with all of them in the same plane. He could think of no reason for this, so he attributed it to God. Of course now, through science, we understand the gravitational dynamics in the formation of solar systems fairly well, and no longer need to invoke a god. Science is similarly showing how the rest of the universe works and eliminating the need for theistic explanations.

Ultimately, an intelligent designer of the universe or life explains nothing. It simply moves the lack of knowledge up one level, because this intelligent designer is left without an explanation, unless you posit either that it always existed or a more intelligent designer of the intelligent designer, ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

If it always existed, then what caused it to go an infinite amount of time and abruptly decide to create the universe? Thus, the intelligent designer answer is plagued with two insurmountable infinity problems.

The universe was not designed for life, in practically the entire universe conditions are extremely hostile to life. Saying that the universe is made just for us is like a frog looking at his pond and thinking that the whole world was made just for him.

i admire the frog