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    @amingb and all other bible quoters out there! even the cfd!

    hala cge! quote the bible! quote! quote! quote!
    and then quote, but never contemplate what it means and never live by what you quote!
    your using an instrument of peace to fuel your arguments

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    aw sulbad nata bro ni ingon nanam ka ug Mag kuyog jud nang duha Faith and Works. kay bisag unsaun dili man jud ma justify imong faith ug wa kay good works matud pa ni St. James.

    Mao lagi bro naa lang gamay nga wala jud ta nagkasinabot .... i cannot explain.

    Para nako base on my understanding we are justified by faith and faith automatically produce works.

    kini nindot ni ...

    James does mean that we combine faith and works for our justification, then James would seem to contradict Paul in Romans 3:28, "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law." James is not in contradiction with Paul. Carefully examining what James is saying will show that James is drawing the contrast between an empty faith and living faith.

    Ang gi igo ni James ana gud is katong mga convert na, ug ato ni e base sa Legal Matters ang Works ani is just the Evidence of your Faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrotic freak View Post
    aw sulbad nata bro ni ingon nanam ka ug Mag kuyog jud nang duha Faith and Works. kay bisag unsaun dili man jud ma justify imong faith ug wa kay good works matud pa ni St. James.

    Mao lagi bro naa lang gamay nga wala jud ta nagkasinabot .... i cannot explain.

    Para nako base on my understanding we are justified by faith and faith automatically produce works.

    kini nindot ni ...

    James does mean that we combine faith and works for our justification, then James would seem to contradict Paul in Romans 3:28, "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law." James is not in contradiction with Paul. Carefully examining what James is saying will show that James is drawing the contrast between an empty faith and living faith.

    Ang gi igo ni James ana gud is katong mga convert na, ug ato ni e base sa Legal Matters ang Works ani is just the Evidence of your Faith, or Works is just a Product of our Faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Mao lagi bro naa lang gamay nga wala jud ta nagkasinabot .... i cannot explain.

    Para nako base on my understanding we are justified by faith and faith automatically produce works. .
    sakto lagi na bro. pero what if ang faith sa tao wala maka produce ug good works? diha na mo sulod ang kang St. James nga teaching, diba bro? pagka daghana raba gyud tao nga ingana bro, dead faith.

    wala jud na question kung tinuod lang gyud imong faith automatic gyud na ang good works.


    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    kini nindot ni ...

    James does mean that we combine faith and works for our justification, then James would seem to contradict Paul in Romans 3:28, "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law." James is not in contradiction with Paul. Carefully examining what James is saying will show that James is drawing the contrast between an empty faith and living faith.

    Ang gi igo ni James ana gud is katong mga convert na, ug ato ni e base sa Legal Matters ang Works ani is just the Evidence of your Faith, or Works is just a Product of our Faith.
    correct jud na imong gi qoute bro.. mao nay kalahi-an sa empty/dead faith ug living faith.. Works is just a Product of our Faith. so ikaw nga believer gusto diay ka ma empty faith? dili jud sa? so imo jud nang obligation to do good works... because of your commitment and obedience to God.

    nako pangutana nimo bro, unsa imong buhaton aron makatuman ka sa imong commitment and obedience to God? unsay imong mga kalihukan parti ana?

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    OT: tag.asa sa mga post oi, mura man kapoi og basa. hehehe

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    to God be glory forever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kowkruche View Post
    OT: tag.asa sa mga post oi, mura man kapoi og basa. hehehe
    OT: wala man gani ka kapoya ug basa sa bible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by etsirkoid View Post
    to God be glory forever...
    Amen. Amen.

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    how does a person prove their faith?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    James 5:16
    Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

    mao ni ug makasala kas imoha isig ka tawo adto ka mangayo pasaylo niya dili adto sa Priest.
    To Cure your Guilt pray and ask for forgiveness.
    are you telling us nga way gamit c pedro ug ang apostoles??..

    Matthew Chapter 16:19

    And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

    so why do you think God said that?.. you said dba God only has the authority of forgiving sins then why would God said those words to peter?.. iya dai gibinuangan c peter ana pagsulti?..

    more over in te previews verses sa imo gihatag wa ka nagbasa ug tarong

    James Chapter 5:14

    Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the priest of the church and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord.

    do you think sick there means physically sick?.. if not unsa man dai sakit sa tao nga pwede tambalan sa church's priests?..

    in summary kay taas au ang chapter kung ato tagsa tagsaon.. the whole James Chapter 5 talks about confession and where we are allowed to confess.. if d ka mutuo then balika ang Matthew mao nay buaka ug au..
    Last edited by dartzed; 04-02-2009 at 08:10 PM.

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